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I thought you guys might be interested by this:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... w&id=19585

I for one am and I am very curious to see how Archer ended up with his creationist nutjobs foster parents as well as what we see about his abilities here.

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Awesome preview

Pulse is indeed the girl in the preview as was speculated when we saw the word-less preview a week or so ago

IMO, Archer will eventually become the most powerful character in the Valiant Universe .. the VEI version of Solar if you will

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Maybe Archer would be the Visitor this time around.
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Ras the future fan wrote:Maybe Archer would be the Visitor this time around.
But this time he will be the "Resident".

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bygranddesign wrote: IMO, Archer will eventually become the most powerful character in the Valiant Universe .. the VEI version of Solar if you will

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Yeah,he indeed has the potential of becoming something really really powerful with his access to the Akashic record and said record containing psiot abilities,this is making me wonder what will happen when he meets Stanchek's crew(and BTW,despite what Ivar said I hope he will hit it off with Charlene,for some reason I would really like those two together) or other Psiots for that matter and also why Harada is not onto him OR,if Harada is not aware of Archer's true potential what he might do when he is(because it is bound to happen at some point).
I'll add something more to that:I think it s no coincidence that we are showed Obbie's ability to take on Psiot powers right before an arc in which he will cross path with a certain psiot power wielding corps...
hawkeyeps wrote:But this time he will be the "Resident".
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Holy Crap. Archer is Peter Petrelli!
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At first I was trying to figure out how this would work (Obie's new ability), but considering the HARD Corps technology can duplicate any Psiot ability, and Omega level Psiots like Harada have access to multiple Psiot abilities, it would make sense that any Psiot brain is capable of any ability. Most just don't (consciously) know how to tap into them. Obie is able to do so through the Akashik Record.

This really adds other questions, though, about how/why PRS would let the Archers have him (more so than how Harada is unaware of him since PRS stated this was a previously unknown ability).
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Phoenix8008 wrote:Holy Crap. Archer is Peter Petrelli!
That is what i thought immediately..Thankfully there are no whiny cheerleaders this time around.At least i hope not..
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BugsySig wrote:At first I was trying to figure out how this would work (Obie's new ability), but considering the HARD Corps technology can duplicate any Psiot ability, and Omega level Psiots like Harada have access to multiple Psiot abilities, it would make sense that any Psiot brain is capable of any ability.

Now that you mention it,doesn't Obie's ability to tap into a database of sorts in order to obtain skills and abilities remind you of how the Corps taps into the PRS database for access to their various powers ?
BugsySig wrote:Most just don't (consciously) know how to tap into them. Obie is able to do so through the Akashik Record.
Hmm...No I think Archer's brain is different due to it's link to the Akashic records and thus built to use pretty much anything(BTW too bad the green dragon Lama got wiped out,I am pretty sure Obie could have learned quite a lot from their discipline)while the other psiots' brain are most likely ony calibrated for their own power.
BugsySig wrote:This really adds other questions, though, about how/why PRS would let the Archers have him (more so than how Harada is unaware of him since PRS stated this was a previously unknown ability).
Was it not mentionned that Ms Archer was part of the intelligence commmity or something ? If so she could have used that position to pressure PRS into giving them one of their assets.Also I think PRS got him mindwiped before handing him over to the nutjobs,wonder if he shall get his memory of PRS back at some point.

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Mandrakk wrote:
BugsySig wrote:At first I was trying to figure out how this would work (Obie's new ability), but considering the HARD Corps technology can duplicate any Psiot ability, and Omega level Psiots like Harada have access to multiple Psiot abilities, it would make sense that any Psiot brain is capable of any ability.

Now that you mention it,doesn't Obie's ability to tap into a database of sorts in order to obtain skills and abilities remind you of how the Corps taps into the PRS database for access to their various powers ?
BugsySig wrote:Most just don't (consciously) know how to tap into them. Obie is able to do so through the Akashik Record.
Hmm...No I think Archer's brain is different due to it's link to the Akashic records and thus built to use pretty much anything(BTW too bad the green dragon Lama got wiped out,I am pretty sure Obie could have learned quite a lot from their discipline)while the other psiots' brain are most likely ony calibrated for their own power.
BugsySig wrote:This really adds other questions, though, about how/why PRS would let the Archers have him (more so than how Harada is unaware of him since PRS stated this was a previously unknown ability).
Was it not mentionned that Ms Archer was part of the intelligence commmity or something ? If so she could have used that position to pressure PRS into giving them one of their assets.Also I think PRS got him mindwiped before handing him over to the nutjobs,wonder if he shall get his memory of PRS back at some point.
Exactly like how HARD Corps uploads :thumb:

I'm not so sure about the one power. I think (just my own theory) that any Psiot is capable of any ability, but they manifest one based on their own personality and/or specific trauma. For example, Faith idolizes superheroes and wanted to escape her life. What exemplifies a superhero more than anything else? Flight. Torque was trapped inside a weak body and wanted nothing more than to be strong, so his powers manifest as a hard shell projection. Darpan was born activated...a frightened infant who projects the worst fears of others.

Pete and Harada (and now Obie) are the only Psiots we know of that manifest multiple abilities. I believe that is what makes for an Omega level Psiot.

And while the Archers had pull as both members of the intelligence community and fellow members of the Sect, a Psiot with unlimited ability doesn't seem like something PRS would just hand over. I expect we will find out exactly what the circumstances were in this issue, though.
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BugsySig wrote:Exactly like how HARD Corps uploads :thumb:
Yep,which does raise some questions I would think.
BugsySig wrote:I'm not so sure about the one power. I think (just my own theory) that any Psiot is capable of any ability, but they manifest one based on their own personality and/or specific trauma. For example, Faith idolizes superheroes and wanted to escape her life. What exemplifies a superhero more than anything else? Flight. Torque was trapped inside a weak body and wanted nothing more than to be strong, so his powers manifest as a hard shell projection. Darpan was born activated...a frightened infant who projects the worst fears of others.
Well yes,before their activation,I agree with you that they could potentially develop whatever random powers you can think of,however once activated they become"calibrated"for the one they have develop and could IMHO no longer handle another one,while Obie can"download" and apparently adapt to whatever AFTER his activation,this Downloading/Uploading ability of his being what his brain was "calibrated" to( Yes he CAN do Uploading and BTW I still maintain that Uploading the ultimate enemy into the records was not the best of ideas in the long term)
BugsySig wrote:Pete and Harada (and now Obie) are the only Psiots we know of that manifest multiple abilities. I believe that is what makes for an Omega level Psiot.
I do not think Obie is an Omega,I think he is something else.To me unlike Peter and Harada who both have multiple manifestations he only happens to have one,a very versatile one true but still just one if I had to term Obie I would call him an infinity.
BugsySig wrote:And while the Archers had pull as both members of the intelligence community and fellow members of the Sect, a Psiot with unlimited ability doesn't seem like something PRS would just hand over. I expect we will find out exactly what the circumstances were in this issue, though.
It might be that she had enough pull to be a very very dangerous nuisance to PRS both thanks to sect leverage as well as perhaps the possibility of shutting them down with and investigation and being sect and thus knowing a lot of stuff she would have known where to direct said investigation in order to heavily damage or even finish PRS.I am very curious about what the issue shall tell us about that.

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Well yes,before their activation,I agree with you that they could potentially develop whatever random powers you can think of,however once activated they become"calibrated"for the one they have develop and could IMHO no longer handle another one,while Obie can"download" and apparently adapt to whatever AFTER his activation,this Downloading/Uploading ability of his being what his brain was "calibrated" to( Yes he CAN do Uploading and BTW I still maintain that Uploading the ultimate enemy into the records was not the best of ideas in the long term)
I can buy that. I would guess Dysart has all this figured out but its unlikely to ever be revealed in-issue. A good question for the "Hi, I'm Josh Dysart" thread.
I do not think Obie is an Omega,I think he is something else.To me unlike Peter and Harada who both have multiple manifestations he only happens to have one,a very versatile one true but still just one if I had to term Obie I would call him an infinity.
That was poor composition on my part. I don't think Obie is an Omega, just that he is now the third Psiot who can manifest multiple abilities. But his is technically one ability--accessing the Akashic record and applying its information through his mind and body--and not separate abilities like Pete and Harada.
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BugsySig wrote:I can buy that. I would guess Dysart has all this figured out but its unlikely to ever be revealed in-issue. A good question for the "Hi, I'm Josh Dysart" thread.
Indeed,but Josh has not been around here very much recently from what I gathered (which is quite understandable given how much he has on his plate)
BugsySig wrote: That was poor composition on my part. I don't think Obie is an Omega, just that he is now the third Psiot who can manifest multiple abilities. But his is technically one ability--accessing the Akashic record and applying its information through his mind and body--and not separate abilities like Pete and Harada.
Oh well that happens,and it's better to have bad composition than bad english(like in some of my own posts :oops: ,which hurt my eyes when I read them afterwards)But I completly agree with you on Obie's abilities,can't wait to learn more.

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Mandrakk wrote: Yeah,he indeed has the potential of becoming something really really powerful with his access to the Akashic record and said record containing psiot abilities,this is making me wonder what will happen when he meets Stanchek's crew(and BTW,despite what Ivar said I hope he will hit it off with Charlene,for some reason I would really like those two together) or other Psiots for that matter and also why Harada is not onto him OR,if Harada is not aware of Archer's true potential what he might do when he is(because it is bound to happen at some point).
Kris and Charlene seem to be hitting it off ... I wouldn't mind if Dysart continued to develop that relationship :hm:

I'd like to see Faith and Peter hook up .. she can bring light to his darkness and hopefully keep him from the brink of going mad/becoming the "destroyer". Obie and Faith are too similar in personality (at this point)... but maybe Faith will help Obie at some point from going mad with power. It would actually create interesting long term narrative if Faith tries to help Peter but "fails" ... and then later tries again to help Obie .. but this time succeeds :hm: :hm:
I'll add something more to that:I think it s no coincidence that we are showed Obbie's ability to take on Psiot powers right before an arc in which he will cross path with a certain psiot power wielding corps...
I think showing Obie accessing Pulse's ability in this issue #0 ... is a potential foreshadowing of how Obie can defeat Bloodshot when they crossover.
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bygranddesign wrote: Kris and Charlene seem to be hitting it off ... I wouldn't mind if Dysart continued to develop that relationship :hm:
Oh yes,this relationship seems promising and is,for now,very well handled.It's just that for some reason I can't stop myself thinking that Charlene and Obie would just be perfect for each other.
bygranddesign wrote:I'd like to see Faith and Peter hook up .. she can bring light to his darkness and hopefully keep him from the brink of going mad/becoming the "destroyer". Obie and Faith are too similar in personality (at this point)...

I agree with you on that one,Peter and Faith together would be awesome and also yes it is a bad thing when both persons in a relationship have a too similar personality,and storywise I would not like it really much.
bygranddesign wrote:I think showing Obie accessing Pulse's ability in this issue #0 ... is a potential foreshadowing of how Obie can defeat Bloodshot when they crossover.
It might be that,or it might also show how Obie could beat the H.A.R.D Corps at their own game heh for all we know their tech might have been extraploated from his abilities.

Oh on a completly unrelated note I shall put that here:
http://www.newsarama.com/19535-valiant- ... rigin.html

It is a FVL interview on newsarama in which he talks a little bit about the issue(This might already have been posted elsewhere on the board but since this is a thread about the issue I thought it had it's place here.)


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