UNITY #1 Discussion

[mateo107]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

[jkingman]

^ +1

[Dallow Spicer1]

Great issue, definitely lived up to the hype. Was mightily relieved that team announced as 'Unity' got wasted quickly, if the new book was about them it'd have been a big let down. As it was, great story and art. 5/5

[jmatt]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

Oooo - another SA Avengers fan!

I agree, the format has a lot of possibilities.

[jkingman]

Anyone look at the Travel Foreman cover with Valiant Vision glasses?

[Carson]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

Excellent analogy. I love not knowing what's coming and where the chips will fall.

VEI earned major kudos for letting the "bad guy" win Harbinger Wars, and they've earned another pat on the back for keeping this Unity thing unpredictable.

[nonplayer]

Great reviews everyone really enjoyed readin this. Post a picture of you and your unity1 issue and a short review at any valiant face book group or valiants face book page and I can enter you in to the draw to win a harbinger gold. Good luck!:-)

[jkingman]

I can't believe Harada didn't recruit Rotwak for Unity!!!

[AnthonyF]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers... the potential just seems infinite.

Great parallel!

[blujay]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

[BugsySig]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

[jkingman]

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[mateo107]

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[swtor1091]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

Bugsy your a cool guy but I would not be down with that... I think if Unity is going to succeed they need to be there own title. Plus that sounds terrible

[jkingman]

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[BugsySig]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

Bugsy your a cool guy but I would not be down with that... I think if Unity is going to succeed they need to be there own title. Plus that sounds terrible

How would that not make them their own title? The first arc leaving Aric in the Faraway would fulfill what was hinted at back at the beginning of Planet Death--that a stranger from a faraway land found the armor and freed the Vine. Unity would then continue as its own title, sans Harada who has no chance of sticking around IMHO, but the second arc would tie into Eternal Warrior like the first arc did with XO (and also reflect the original Unity in a way).

Several of us have theorized that this is how Unity will be "different" from anything VALIANT has done before as the VEI team continue to say: That it will be an ongoing event that crosses over with a different title each arc.

I'm not saying that exact story will happen--it probably won't--but I don't see how any of that sounds terrible You wouldn't want to see Livewire in the XO armor fighting Rai in the future? What's wrong with you?!?

[lorddunlow]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

Bugsy your a cool guy but I would not be down with that... I think if Unity is going to succeed they need to be there own title. Plus that sounds terrible

How would that not make them their own title? The first arc leaving Aric in the Faraway would fulfill what was hinted at back at the beginning of Planet Death--that a stranger from a faraway land found the armor and freed the Vine. Unity would then continue as its own title, sans Harada who has no chance of sticking around IMHO, but the second arc would tie into Eternal Warrior like the first arc did with XO (and also reflect the original Unity in a way).

Several of us have theorized that this is how Unity will be "different" from anything VALIANT has done before as the VEI team continue to say: That it will be an ongoing event that crosses over with a different title each arc.

I'm not saying that exact story will happen--it probably won't--but I don't see how any of that sounds terrible You wouldn't want to see Livewire in the XO armor fighting Rai in the future? What's wrong with you?!?

I would read a book that was just Livewire in the X-O suit. Anything that involves that would be awesome. Her going to the fair with her niece getting funnel cakes and corn dogs would be awesome if it involved Livewire in the X-O suit. Actually, let's just make X-O her in the suit and get rid of Aric altogether.

[grendeljd]

Unity #1 feels a lot like the early issues of the original Avengers, not just because it's essentially the VEI "Avengers" line-up. the first year or so of Avengers was pretty chaotic and unpredictable, they weren't yet a defined team with a mansion, a butler, or even much teamwork. membership, identities, and allegiances changed from issue to issue. in just the 2nd issue, Ant Man had become Giant Man, the Hulk had become the villian, Iron man changed his armor in #3, Captain America returned in #4, and all the founding members were gone by #16. it was actually more of an event/cross-over book than a team book (but "event" books didn't exist at the time), and I think that's the real magic that Valiant has tapped into with Unity: Livewire could be taking over the X-O armor, Harada could be the villain by the story's end, heroes from the past could return. the potential just seems infinite.

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

Bugsy your a cool guy but I would not be down with that... I think if Unity is going to succeed they need to be there own title. Plus that sounds terrible

How would that not make them their own title? The first arc leaving Aric in the Faraway would fulfill what was hinted at back at the beginning of Planet Death--that a stranger from a faraway land found the armor and freed the Vine. Unity would then continue as its own title, sans Harada who has no chance of sticking around IMHO, but the second arc would tie into Eternal Warrior like the first arc did with XO (and also reflect the original Unity in a way).

Several of us have theorized that this is how Unity will be "different" from anything VALIANT has done before as the VEI team continue to say: That it will be an ongoing event that crosses over with a different title each arc.

I'm not saying that exact story will happen--it probably won't--but I don't see how any of that sounds terrible You wouldn't want to see Livewire in the XO armor fighting Rai in the future? What's wrong with you?!?

I would read a book that was just Livewire in the X-O suit. Anything that involves that would be awesome. Her going to the fair with her niece getting funnel cakes and corn dogs would be awesome if it involved Livewire in the X-O suit. Actually, let's just make X-O her in the suit and get rid of Aric altogether.

Jeez. Not only does he have a problem with Canadians... now he's picking on Dacians too!

[grendeljd]

The opening scene with Renee - I liked her description of the XO suit on the splash page, that made it feel so much more real to include the other sensory perceptions such as its sound, its smell.

I appreciated this as well. It really drew you into the moment. And I have to say I agree with all of your points.

Great minds think alike!!

[lorddunlow]

That's a good one. And the way you lay it out, does seem like that's the route they're trying to go for.

This book really has me stumped for what it's next arc is going to be, because this feels like an "event comic" but it's not

So I had this idea that we will see the history of Shanhara fulfilled...Unity, specifically Livewire, take the XO armor from Aric and banish him to the Faraway where he encounters the Hara Vine and the "baby" Shanhara. He returns to Loam and defeats the Torment, freeing the Vine (this would be the next XO arc).

Meanwhile, the Unity team--sans Harada who they have ditched by then for his evil ways--end up in 4001 where they crossover with the next EW arc and assist Rai in defeating Gilad's future self...the Eternal Emperor!

...or something like that.

Bugsy your a cool guy but I would not be down with that... I think if Unity is going to succeed they need to be there own title. Plus that sounds terrible

How would that not make them their own title? The first arc leaving Aric in the Faraway would fulfill what was hinted at back at the beginning of Planet Death--that a stranger from a faraway land found the armor and freed the Vine. Unity would then continue as its own title, sans Harada who has no chance of sticking around IMHO, but the second arc would tie into Eternal Warrior like the first arc did with XO (and also reflect the original Unity in a way).

Several of us have theorized that this is how Unity will be "different" from anything VALIANT has done before as the VEI team continue to say: That it will be an ongoing event that crosses over with a different title each arc.

I'm not saying that exact story will happen--it probably won't--but I don't see how any of that sounds terrible You wouldn't want to see Livewire in the XO armor fighting Rai in the future? What's wrong with you?!?

I would read a book that was just Livewire in the X-O suit. Anything that involves that would be awesome. Her going to the fair with her niece getting funnel cakes and corn dogs would be awesome if it involved Livewire in the X-O suit. Actually, let's just make X-O her in the suit and get rid of Aric altogether.

Jeez. Not only does he have a problem with Canadians... now he's picking on Dacians too!

Damn straight!

[jaspersk]

Disappointed in Unity #1 considering how many fricking copies of it I have. However I didn't like harbinger #16 either but I thought 17 and 18 were great. Unity was disappointing but all the other titles that came out this month were very well done. The first time around this is about the point at which Valiant began pumping out crap stories with crap art and boasting about how great the stories and art were. This time around they are gaining momentum and really building a universe. The problem is that in order to sustain the momentum other people who are not Valiant core fans have to start picking up the books. For the time being I guess we'll just have to keep supporting them the best way we can by buying the books and the 50 million different copies of Unity. At least my 27 copies of Unity will not be returned. However, I don't know how many of the other 68,473 copies will be returned.
I think they'll just basically end up giving away the books that are returned as free advertisement.
I also think that Unity will end up being Secret Weapons II with Ninjak, Livewire, perhaps Stronghold and a changing cast of characters.

[BugsySig]

Disappointed in Unity #1 considering how many fricking copies of it I have. However I didn't like harbinger #16 either but I thought 17 and 18 were great. Unity was disappointing but all the other titles that came out this month were very well done. The first time around this is about the point at which Valiant began pumping out crap stories with crap art and boasting about how great the stories and art were. This time around they are gaining momentum and really building a universe. The problem is that in order to sustain the momentum other people who are not Valiant core fans have to start picking up the books. For the time being I guess we'll just have to keep supporting them the best way we can by buying the books and the 50 million different copies of Unity. At least my 27 copies of Unity will not be returned. However, I don't know how many of the other 68,473 copies will be returned.
I think they'll just basically end up giving away the books that are returned as free advertisement.
I also think that Unity will end up being Secret Weapons II with Ninjak, Livewire, perhaps Stronghold and a changing cast of characters.

Considering all retailers need to do to return the books is send back the cover (is, rip it off and mail it in), I doubt VEI will be giving them away.

I feel you on Secret Weapons II...I know "Unity" draws more attention, but its basically the same concept. We need something much more grand if this is truly worthy of the name "Unity".

[lorddunlow]

I feel you on Secret Weapons II...I know "Unity" draws more attention, but its basically the same concept. We need something much more grand if this is truly worthy of the name "Unity".

+1

I'll really feel let down by VEI if it is "just a team book". I'm still expecting a major twist. If that twist never comes, then the "never been done before" thing will have been a marketing scam. I have faith that Dino would not lead us astray.

[Dallow Spicer1]

I feel you on Secret Weapons II...I know "Unity" draws more attention, but its basically the same concept. We need something much more grand if this is truly worthy of the name "Unity".

+1

I'll really feel let down by VEI if it is "just a team book". I'm still expecting a major twist. If that twist never comes, then the "never been done before" thing will have been a marketing scam. I have faith that Dino would not lead us astray.

Surely once the opening 2-3 arcs are done it can only settle down as a team book? Hopefully Aric's involvement in Unity will be short lived as I'd prefer him to remain just in his own book and not appear constantly in other books ala VH1.

Unity has gotten off to a great start IMO, but long term it'll hopefully be an interesting team book with strong characters.

[BugsySig]

I feel you on Secret Weapons II...I know "Unity" draws more attention, but its basically the same concept. We need something much more grand if this is truly worthy of the name "Unity".

+1

I'll really feel let down by VEI if it is "just a team book". I'm still expecting a major twist. If that twist never comes, then the "never been done before" thing will have been a marketing scam. I have faith that Dino would not lead us astray.

Surely once the opening 2-3 arcs are done it can only settle down as a team book? Hopefully Aric's involvement in Unity will be short lived as I'd prefer him to remain just in his own book and not appear constantly in other books ala VH1.

Unity has gotten off to a great start IMO, but long term it'll hopefully be an interesting team book with strong characters.

I agree. It looks like Aric will be sticking around for the second arc,but I hope this isn't long term. Eternal Warrior works in multiple books because his solo title can bounce around to different time periods and not overlap with his Unity appearances.

Personally I'd like to see a characters like Doctor Mirage and/or Kay McHenry added to the mix who could shine like Ninjak and Livewire have the opportunity to. Kay, especially, could be a driving force for the team.