Ugggh.....here we go again with the Gold Key chars.......

[Peter]

Is it me or is it slightly fanboyish in here?....well anyways, i'm still gonna buy it

I like Turok and I like Greg Pak...so it's a good combination in my mind. Although I don't like that Turok looks "boyish" he should look manly and awesome like he did in VH1

I personally don't agree with how D.E. have done things regards the Gold Key characters and wont buy these titles

What exactly do you mean by that?


What I mean is essentially DE riding the gravy train of a successful Valiant relaunch to generate interest in their GK titles.

Using writers and artists that helped relaunch Valiant, then announcing the release of these new titles at what was generally advertised as a massive Valiant showing at the New York Comiccon. I have previously said in another thread that this smacks of good business sense, and definitely no disrespect to the creators (you have to take work where you can get it), but for me,
I would have thought you could have created interest in these titles, just as Dark Horse did, and promote them on their own merits instead of riding on the coat tails of Valiant's successful relaunch.

Now this returns deal for Turok #1, I realise Valiant didn't invent this, but really, this is so blatantly piggybacking, even one of the variant covers is a copy of Valiant's Turok #1.

So I guess I was wrong in stating that I didn't like what DE were doing to the GK characters, because we haven't seen what they are doing to these titles until they are released (my mistake).
I should have said, I didn't like how they were going about promoting these GK Titles.

I'm still not going to buy them though .

[leonmallett]

Returnability, retailer incentive covers, even a kid-Turok cover...They really are trying to piggy-back on VEI, huh?

I know these types of incentives aren't exclusive to VEI, but first they lure over VEI writers, try to take their artists too, and now this?

Luckily Dynamite's past practices lead me to believe these books will not last very long as they fall to delays, crappy quality and eventual cancellation.

Too bad we won't be seeing these characters done right over at VEI any time soon. Would have been nice.

I'm pretty sure VEi didn't invent returnable comics, incentive covers, or kid covers.

A balanced view.

DE have many issues that can be laid at their door, no doubt at all. But putting that aside, making business decisions is just that, business decisions. The plethora of variant covers is something DE have done for years (as have others of course), as VEI have opted for also now. These things go around. But it seems rich to single DE out for those things specifically when so many publishers copy marketing tricks from each other; I think the 8-bit thing may be a novel niche within the variant market, but on the whole VEI's strategies (as laudable as they are since they appear effective) are nothing new really as StarBrand notes.

There are plenty of sticks to legitimately beat DE with arguably, but it amazing how their 'crimes' grow and grow even where they are not really 'crimes'.

[leonmallett]

One thing thats got me curious is isnt turok dinosaur hunter a valiant trademark? Gold key version was turok son of stone, not d. H. ...

I presume that ownership of that trademark would revert to the owners as a derived work, but not a lawyer.

[StarBrand]

I disagree with the statement several posts above that alludes to Dark Horse having created interest in these characters. They did a horrific job promoting their GK line, ot even bothering to brand it, for starters.

[vikingspawn]

Can someone tell me or link me to exactly how Dynamite / VIP acquired the rights to publish these from Dark Horse, Classi Media or whoever had them?

Havent seen an article that says how. It was just announced at NYCC that they'd be publishing them.

Maybe they have some sort of split licensing deal since Dynamite now have all their Digital comics released through the Dark Horse site:

https://digital.darkhorse.com/new/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And Dark Horse is still releasing a new Solar reprint in January:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/17-240/D ... lume-2-TPB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Could it be a shared license? I'm not sure if there even is such a thing but..

Must be....looks like Dark Horse is still handling the reprints of the Gold Key stuff which they've done for years while Dynamite produces new stories.

And then whatever new stories from Dynamite gets released digitally back through the Dark Horse digital site anyway. It's like the characters never left and Dynamite is an outsourced imprint for Dark Horse in a way. Kind of like the 2010-2011 Dark Key writing stuff was outsourced through Illustrated Media.

[lorddunlow]

Can someone tell me or link me to exactly how Dynamite / VIP acquired the rights to publish these from Dark Horse, Classi Media or whoever had them?

Havent seen an article that says how. It was just announced at NYCC that they'd be publishing them.

Maybe they have some sort of split licensing deal since Dynamite now have all their Digital comics released through the Dark Horse site:

https://digital.darkhorse.com/new/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And Dark Horse is still releasing a new Solar reprint in January:

http://www.darkhorse.com/Books/17-240/D ... lume-2-TPB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Could it be a shared license? I'm not sure if there even is such a thing but..

Must be....looks like Dark Horse is still handling the reprints of the Gold Key stuff which they've done for years while Dynamite produces new stories.

And then whatever new stories from Dynamite gets released digitally back through the Dark Horse digital site anyway. It's like the characters never left and Dynamite is an outsourced imprint for Dark Horse in a way. Kind of like the 2010-2011 Dark Key writing stuff was outsourced through Illustrated Media.

The company that owns an IP can license it for use to as many companies and for as many different products as it wants - just look at all of the companies that make Disney branded items. Only if there is an exclusive license agreement are other companies prohibited from using that property.