Gold Key

Thedinosaur · Post by **Thedinosaur** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:20 pm

So now that dynamite has the gold key characters, does anyone see a cross over in the future?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:29 pm

nonplayer · Post by **nonplayer** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:32 am

Doubt it. I just hope turok doesnt look like an apache and makes it past issue 4 and does very well.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:57 am

The indications and statements publicly from VEI indicate 'no'.

Never say never, but objectively I think it would little for VEI when considered against the risks of working with DE as a publisher )given DE's issues with timeliness).

swtor1091 · Post by **swtor1091** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:23 am

no but in this article here http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=48789" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it says they MAY buy them at some point

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:12 pm

swtor1091 wrote:no but in this article here http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=48789" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it says they MAY buy them at some point

But only if they could wholly own them; an 'if and a maybe' in all.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:18 pm

That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time. Then - if someone were interested in selling them - then they MIGHT be interested.

Frankly, I think that a crossover without ownership would hurt Valiant in the long run. DON'T cross over. Die. Again. Then, buy em up cheap.

blujay · Post by **blujay** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:34 pm

That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time

Fifth time? What were the other four?

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:17 pm

blujay wrote:
That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time
Fifth time? What were the other four?

1960's, early 1980's GK brief revival, VALIANT, Dark Horse.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:20 pm

leonmallett wrote:
blujay wrote:
That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time
Fifth time? What were the other four?
1960's, early 1980's GK brief revival, VALIANT, Dark Horse.

Exactly. Then there's also Ibooks that only tried one character before failing.

/Magnus

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:20 pm

kevinbastos wrote:...Frankly, I think that a crossover without ownership would hurt Valiant in the long run. DON'T cross over...

mateo107 · Post by **mateo107** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:35 pm

leonmallett wrote: 1960's, early 1980's GK brief revival, VALIANT, Dark Horse.

aren't you forgetting Acclaim?

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:40 pm

mateo107 wrote:
leonmallett wrote: 1960's, early 1980's GK brief revival, VALIANT, Dark Horse.
aren't you forgetting Acclaim?

Good point; but was that more akin to repackaging for other means than failure leading to relaunch? Hmm. Debate time.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:08 pm

blujay wrote:
That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time
Fifth time? What were the other four?

Gold key, valiant, acclaim, dark horse.

If being technical, you could even split Gold Key up, too.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:34 pm

kevinbastos wrote:
blujay wrote:
That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time
Fifth time? What were the other four?
Gold key, valiant, acclaim, dark horse.

If being technical, you could even split Gold Key up, too.

I wouldn't count their VALIANT tenure as a failure. They sold millions of books. The others, sure.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:42 pm

Honestly, the only one I consider a failure is Dark Horse. That was a disaster! At least the other attempts ran for a while.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:49 pm

kevinbastos wrote:Frankly, I think that a crossover without ownership would hurt Valiant in the long run. DON'T cross over. Die. Again. Then, buy em up cheap.

+1

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:53 pm

Acclaim magnus takes the crown tho wht a pile of crap

blujay · Post by **blujay** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:58 pm

leonmallett wrote:
blujay wrote:
That is the best response. Let them fail. For the FIFTH time
Fifth time? What were the other four?
1960's, early 1980's GK brief revival, VALIANT, Dark Horse.

Are we counting VH1 as a failure? If anything I would count that one as a (short lived) success, being that it revived the properties and brought them to a new generation (plus iirc they sold decently).

Phoenix8008 · Post by **Phoenix8008** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:48 am

jmatt wrote:
kevinbastos wrote:Frankly, I think that a crossover without ownership would hurt Valiant in the long run. DON'T cross over. Die. Again. Then, buy em up cheap.
+1

+1 more, with the caveat that I'm not even really eager for them to be folded into the universe after the fact. What would that do to the 4001 timeline they're already crafting to show us in EW 5-8? Solar definately wouldn't be the originator of the universe this time around. I could totally live without those characters ever again connecting to VEI's material, but IF they can buy them outright later, then I'd be willing to consider them if they have good concepts.

mateo107 · Post by **mateo107** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:20 pm

I can agree that a crossover in the VEI universe would be a bad idea unless it had no affect on continuity and would never be referenced again. if VEI ever did acquire those characters, it would be awkward trying to explain that one time that they met before that didn't really count.

however, wouldn't anybody be interested in a "crossover" set in the original VH1 universe?

Ras the future fan · Post by **Ras the future fan** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:44 pm

mateo107 wrote:I can agree that a crossover in the VEI universe would be a bad idea unless it had no affect on continuity and would never be referenced again. if VEI ever did acquire those characters, it would be awkward trying to explain that one time that they met before that didn't really count.

however, wouldn't anybody be interested in a "crossover" set in the original VH1 universe?

Good idea, a crossover set in the VH1 universe, wouldn't feel too awkward.
As for failures I say Acclaim and DH. The original GK and VH1 stuff were great.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:09 am

mateo107 wrote:I can agree that a crossover in the VEI universe would be a bad idea unless it had no affect on continuity and would never be referenced again. if VEI ever did acquire those characters, it would be awkward trying to explain that one time that they met before that didn't really count.

however, wouldn't anybody be interested in a "crossover" set in the original VH1 universe?

VEI already said that (Q2 excepted) they have no plans to revisit the original continuity. While it might interest fans, I think they'd rather focus their resources on growing the new continuity, especially if revisiting the original continuity entails splitting the profits with another company that had nothing to do with the original continuity.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:04 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
mateo107 wrote:I can agree that a crossover in the VEI universe would be a bad idea unless it had no affect on continuity and would never be referenced again. if VEI ever did acquire those characters, it would be awkward trying to explain that one time that they met before that didn't really count.

however, wouldn't anybody be interested in a "crossover" set in the original VH1 universe?
VEI already said that (Q2 excepted) they have no plans to revisit the original continuity. While it might interest fans, I think they'd rather focus their resources on growing the new continuity, especially if revisiting the original continuity entails splitting the profits with another company that had nothing to do with the original continuity.

How about just facilitating the reprinting of VH1 Gold Key? Surely sharing some of the profit/expense on that would be better than nothing for VEI...I know I'd buy VALIANT Masters: Solar Man of the Atom and VALIANT Masters: Magnus Robot Fighter.

Manaf82 · Post by **Manaf82** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:28 pm

BugsySig wrote:
kjjohanson wrote:
mateo107 wrote:I can agree that a crossover in the VEI universe would be a bad idea unless it had no affect on continuity and would never be referenced again. if VEI ever did acquire those characters, it would be awkward trying to explain that one time that they met before that didn't really count.

however, wouldn't anybody be interested in a "crossover" set in the original VH1 universe?
VEI already said that (Q2 excepted) they have no plans to revisit the original continuity. While it might interest fans, I think they'd rather focus their resources on growing the new continuity, especially if revisiting the original continuity entails splitting the profits with another company that had nothing to do with the original continuity.
How about just facilitating the reprinting of VH1 Gold Key? Surely sharing some of the profit/expense on that would be better than nothing for VEI...I know I'd buy VALIANT Masters: Solar Man of the Atom and VALIANT Masters: Magnus Robot Fighter.

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