The FUTURE is NOW!!!! 4001 is coming....

[The Dirt Gang]

Like I said before, the Clayton Crain cover reminds me a lot of the Metabarons. Anyone read it? Every Metabaron has some sort of mechanical body part. It looks like Gilad has a mechanical body part as well?

To toot my own horn, in the creator wishlist thread I said Jodorowsky & Gimenez on a future book. While it's not actually them, looks like I could have influenced the direction.


Top that with Justin Jordan having made a Prophet like pitch for Rai and I'm going to say I bet this will be a good bit different than VH1's future timeline. Although, Jordan isn't involved, his pitch could still have influenced the direction. To me, "King" Gilad looks nothing like a character we would have seen in VH1's future timeline.

I agree that I prefer not to see the Gold Key characters unless VEI owned them outright.

And once again, that Crain cover is just

[Manaf82]

By the way the description for NY Comicon website mentions surprise guests for the Valiant Panel..Does this mean new creative team for maybe Rai?? "Squeee"

[etos45]

By the way the description for NY Comicon website mentions surprise guests for the Valiant Panel..Does this mean new creative team for maybe Rai?? "Squeee"

I'm pretty sure that is going to be the original creative team for Q&W (I forget their names). I'm almost positive that they are going to announce some form of release that is going to complete the old story arc that was never finished.

[Aram]

I avoid this section.. but I had to check this thread..

This might be the turning point to get me back into reading VEI books as they come out again, instead of just buying them, putting them away and waiting for the trades.

Wow. I do that with the other publisher's books, but I read my VEI right away!

I did that until A+A #1.. then that killed it for me, as that book very much upset me. I've found waiting for the trades makes it way more enjoyable for me on almost every title from any publisher, but especially on the new Valiant.

I get the whole picture at once that way and don't have time to get upset about little things I dislike in a story that might fester for a month otherwise, but be forgotten almost immediately if the story progressed further.

I honestly have read very little outside of tpbs/hcs in the last 10 years.. though I've bought around 3000+ books. Even my tpb/hc collection has 100+ books that I haven't read yet.

The biggest books that I've gone out of my way to read recently has really only been Saga and Quantum and Woody, but I'm behind on even Q+W.

[leonmallett]

By the way the description for NY Comicon website mentions surprise guests for the Valiant Panel..Does this mean new creative team for maybe Rai?? "Squeee"

I'm pretty sure that is going to be the original creative team for Q&W (I forget their names). I'm almost positive that they are going to announce some form of release that is going to complete the old story arc that was never finished.

Christopher Priest and MD Bright.

[etos45]

By the way the description for NY Comicon website mentions surprise guests for the Valiant Panel..Does this mean new creative team for maybe Rai?? "Squeee"

I'm pretty sure that is going to be the original creative team for Q&W (I forget their names). I'm almost positive that they are going to announce some form of release that is going to complete the old story arc that was never finished.

Christopher Priest and MD Bright.

Yeah, that's it! I was going to say Judas and Priest, but I was pretty sure that was wrong...

[leonmallett]

By the way the description for NY Comicon website mentions surprise guests for the Valiant Panel..Does this mean new creative team for maybe Rai?? "Squeee"

I'm pretty sure that is going to be the original creative team for Q&W (I forget their names). I'm almost positive that they are going to announce some form of release that is going to complete the old story arc that was never finished.

Christopher Priest and MD Bright.

Yeah, that's it! I was going to say Judas and Priest, but I was pretty sure that was wrong...

I am trying to imagine what the Rob Halford version of Quantum and Woody would read like...

[blujay]

But long term something that cannot really be built on (packaging books for collected editions; referencing events/characters). Why complicate things?

Wait, you are not calling for something like a sort-of new Deathmate are you...?

Smelled like it to me.

If VEI can't own and control Magnus entirely then I actually hope they decide to take the 4001 line in a completely new direction without milespires and such. It would actually present Valiant with a good opportunity to create entirely new title characters.

To me that's the most exciting part of this new 4001, while I've heard some criticisms of VEI on this board that they are just "reimagining" or "recreating" what has already been (which I would argue is necessary albeit not necessarily true), this is their chance to create a part of their universe without any past baggage.

I can't see how it can survive for long without the old VH1 fanbase boosting its numbers. Dark Key proved it was impossible to pull of even with the allure of Shooter at the helm. But now with so many readers who gave it a chance with DK now sitting on copies of yet another dead universe, it's gonna be once bitten, twice shy.

But who knows? I see FVL is involved and wish him only the best.

I'd have to disagree with that, I had heard (cuz I never read them) that the quality of the dark key books wasn't up to snuff. But knowing the A-list talent that Dynamite has gathered here I think success will be very likely. I think I'll probably be picking up a few of these, specifically Turok, Spektor and Solar

[leonmallett]

But long term something that cannot really be built on (packaging books for collected editions; referencing events/characters). Why complicate things?

Wait, you are not calling for something like a sort-of new Deathmate are you...?

Smelled like it to me.

If VEI can't own and control Magnus entirely then I actually hope they decide to take the 4001 line in a completely new direction without milespires and such. It would actually present Valiant with a good opportunity to create entirely new title characters.

To me that's the most exciting part of this new 4001, while I've heard some criticisms of VEI on this board that they are just "reimagining" or "recreating" what has already been (which I would argue is necessary albeit not necessarily true), this is their chance to create a part of their universe without any past baggage.

Just have to agree; familiar but new both at the same time.

[jmatt]

Just have to agree; familiar but new both at the same time.

In Warren Simons office, I saw an EW cover with the EE (Eternal Emperor) on horseback. It looked very much like Frazetta's "Death Dealer". I don't recall anyone traveling on horseback in the VH1 4001 timeline. Here's to hoping for something new...

[Carson]

In 4001 they ride robo-horses! Check out those legs and the neck. Awesome.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

But long term something that cannot really be built on (packaging books for collected editions; referencing events/characters). Why complicate things?

Wait, you are not calling for something like a sort-of new Deathmate are you...?

Smelled like it to me.

If VEI can't own and control Magnus entirely then I actually hope they decide to take the 4001 line in a completely new direction without milespires and such. It would actually present Valiant with a good opportunity to create entirely new title characters.

To me that's the most exciting part of this new 4001, while I've heard some criticisms of VEI on this board that they are just "reimagining" or "recreating" what has already been (which I would argue is necessary albeit not necessarily true), this is their chance to create a part of their universe without any past baggage.

I can't see how it can survive for long without the old VH1 fanbase boosting its numbers. Dark Key proved it was impossible to pull of even with the allure of Shooter at the helm. But now with so many readers who gave it a chance with DK now sitting on copies of yet another dead universe, it's gonna be once bitten, twice shy.

But who knows? I see FVL is involved and wish him only the best.

I'd have to disagree with that, I had heard (cuz I never read them) that the quality of the dark key books wasn't up to snuff. But knowing the A-list talent that Dynamite has gathered here I think success will be very likely. I think I'll probably be picking up a few of these, specifically Turok, Spektor and Solar

The real problem with Dark Key was the epic 2-6 month waits between issues. If they had been able to ship on any sort of schedule, it would have been more successful.

[jmatt]

In 4001 they ride robo-horses! Check out those legs and the neck. Awesome.

Hmm, I only got a glimpse, maybe that's the image I saw and I didn't notice the robotics.

[kjjohanson]

In 4001 they ride robo-horses! Check out those legs and the neck. Awesome.

Hmm, I only got a glimpse, maybe that's the image I saw and I didn't notice the robotics.

There was a color image of the artwork in the slide show at the panel, and it looks very nice.

IIRC, they said that each arc is going to feature Gilad in two time periods, and that Kay returns in the "present" portion of the 4001 arc.

[grendeljd]

I've said it elsewhere already but I must say it again here - I'm really elated over this news, especially on the heels of the news about the Gold Key characters. I have always felt that the VEI 4001 era (as well as the present day VEI universe) will hold its own without them, and I'm glad to see them moving forward with it right when we hear the GK catalogue is now unavailable to them anyway. Well timed, I say!

[Carson]

I've said it elsewhere already but I must say it again here - I'm really elated over this news, especially on the heels of the news about the Gold Key characters. I have always felt that the VEI 4001 era (as well as the present day VEI universe) will hold its own without them, and I'm glad to see them moving forward with it right when we hear the GK catalogue is now unavailable to them anyway. Well timed, I say!

+1

[Captain Craig]

4001 is coming in Eternal Warrior #5. So excited! We've already heard references from Timewalker in A&A about the sentient cities... this HAS to lead into RAI!!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/09/ ... 0407000004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thoughts?

Rai #1 to launch Summer of Valiant 3.0 in '14. That's my call.

[grendeljd]

4001 is coming in Eternal Warrior #5. So excited! We've already heard references from Timewalker in A&A about the sentient cities... this HAS to lead into RAI!!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/09/ ... 0407000004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thoughts?

Rai #1 to launch Summer of Valiant 3.0 in '14. That's my call.

It could happen... If the 4001 arc in EW is a 4-parter (that introduces RAI ), then it'll wrap up in April. RAI #1 could then drop in May to kick off SoV III!

[Carson]

I really hope you two are right and we get Rai and HARD Corps in their own books next summer. And probably Ninjak!

[FormerReader]

4001 is coming in Eternal Warrior #5. So excited! We've already heard references from Timewalker in A&A about the sentient cities... this HAS to lead into RAI!!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/09/ ... 0407000004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thoughts?

Rai #1 to launch Summer of Valiant 3.0 in '14. That's my call.

[etos45]

4001 is coming in Eternal Warrior #5. So excited! We've already heard references from Timewalker in A&A about the sentient cities... this HAS to lead into RAI!!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/09/ ... 0407000004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thoughts?

Rai #1 to launch Summer of Valiant 3.0 in '14. That's my call.

That's a good bet, I'd say.

[Baramos]

So are we never going to see Kay McHenry again? I was hoping to see more of her in this series. As a new fan of Valiant I can't say I'm excited to have two separate timelines. I feel that creates strange limitations with the past series. I'd rather just have one solid timeline, I feel it's easier to connect with the stories than t way. I know we'll see more of current EW in Unity, and I'll still be continuing to get this series, as with every Valiant book, but I'm cautious about this direction.

Since the current arc in Eternal Warrior must end in #4 and is set in the "past" of the new relaunch (it must be the earliest issue chronologically, ignoring the first issue of X-O Manowar or the flashbacks in Harbinger and the various zero issues, I suppose), and this new arc starting in #5 is set in 4001, I'm guessing that the third story arc will finally pick back up with the present of Gilad and Kay McHenry.

[Carson]

So are we never going to see Kay McHenry again? I was hoping to see more of her in this series. As a new fan of Valiant I can't say I'm excited to have two separate timelines. I feel that creates strange limitations with the past series. I'd rather just have one solid timeline, I feel it's easier to connect with the stories than t way. I know we'll see more of current EW in Unity, and I'll still be continuing to get this series, as with every Valiant book, but I'm cautious about this direction.

Since the current arc in Eternal Warrior must end in #4 and is set in the "past" of the new relaunch (it must be the earliest issue chronologically, ignoring the first issue of X-O Manowar or the flashbacks in Harbinger and the various zero issues, I suppose), and this new arc starting in #5 is set in 4001, I'm guessing that the third story arc will finally pick back up with the present of Gilad and Kay McHenry.

Pretty sure the second arc is a mix of 4001 and present day, with Kay in the present day...

[Baramos]

The Eternal Emperor artwork on that cover gives me intense Warhammer 40K vibes...