About psiots......

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I'm a longtime reader of Marvel's Merry Mutants so while I'm enjoying Harbinger very much, I do have a noob question about the nature of psiots.

Harada explains to Peter that psiots are 'an extraordinary, yet natural, phenomenon' of humanity. To me, that sounds kinda like the evolution of Homo Superior deal of the Merry Mutants but not quite.

So are psiots a result of natural human evolution? Or have they existed within humanity since Day One? Or are they a result of some outside influence on humanity, a source that may tie-in to other parts of the Valiant Universe like the Faraway or the future or alien influence?

[Jonman]

I'm a longtime reader of Marvel's Merry Mutants so while I'm enjoying Harbinger very much, I do have a noob question about the nature of psiots.

Harada explains to Peter that psiots are 'an extraordinary, yet natural, phenomenon' of humanity. To me, that sounds kinda like the evolution of Homo Superior deal of the Merry Mutants but not quite.

So are psiots a result of natural human evolution? Or have they existed within humanity since Day One? Or are they a result of some outside influence on humanity, a source that may tie-in to other parts of the Valiant Universe like the Faraway or the future or alien influence?

Hmm that does seem to be the question. I guess we'll have to wait and see for sure.

Its interesting you bring up X-Men because I've always noticed that similarity. Also with Harada representing a Magneto-like character, crusading for his 'kind' even at the expense of others who get in his way.

I've also heard on another board someone call X-O Manowar an amalgamation of Marvel's biggest properties, specifically Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Obviously we know Aric is unique all his own but its not hard to see these comparisons considering Marvel is more popular and is what people usually have been exposed to first.

I definitely see more Marvel in Valiant than DC if I had to make such a distinction.

[BugsySig]

I'm a longtime reader of Marvel's Merry Mutants so while I'm enjoying Harbinger very much, I do have a noob question about the nature of psiots.

Harada explains to Peter that psiots are 'an extraordinary, yet natural, phenomenon' of humanity. To me, that sounds kinda like the evolution of Homo Superior deal of the Merry Mutants but not quite.

So are psiots a result of natural human evolution? Or have they existed within humanity since Day One? Or are they a result of some outside influence on humanity, a source that may tie-in to other parts of the Valiant Universe like the Faraway or the future or alien influence?

Hmm that does seem to be the question. I guess we'll have to wait and see for sure.

Its interesting you bring up X-Men because I've always noticed that similarity. Also with Harada representing a Magneto-like character, crusading for his 'kind' even at the expense of others who get in his way.

I've also heard on another board someone call X-O Manowar an amalgamation of Marvel's biggest properties, specifically Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Obviously we know Aric is unique all his own but its not hard to see these comparisons considering Marvel is more popular and is what people usually have been exposed to first.

I definitely see more Marvel in Valiant than DC if I had to make such a distinction.

Those comparisons are just considering Jim Shooter left Marvel after a failed attempt to purchase the company and started VALIANT.

As far as Psiot origins, Jonman is right in that we will have to wait and see. Some of us have speculated that the Immortal Brothers were Psiots, thus resulting in their various abilities like Aram's strength or even their immunity to the Boon (as seemed to be the case with Archer as well). Others believe they are the descendants of the brothers or of Vine interference. We do know the Bleeding Monk is several hundred hears old, so I think we can assume Psiots have been around far longer than that.

[Jonman]

I'm a longtime reader of Marvel's Merry Mutants so while I'm enjoying Harbinger very much, I do have a noob question about the nature of psiots.

Harada explains to Peter that psiots are 'an extraordinary, yet natural, phenomenon' of humanity. To me, that sounds kinda like the evolution of Homo Superior deal of the Merry Mutants but not quite.

So are psiots a result of natural human evolution? Or have they existed within humanity since Day One? Or are they a result of some outside influence on humanity, a source that may tie-in to other parts of the Valiant Universe like the Faraway or the future or alien influence?

Hmm that does seem to be the question. I guess we'll have to wait and see for sure.

Its interesting you bring up X-Men because I've always noticed that similarity. Also with Harada representing a Magneto-like character, crusading for his 'kind' even at the expense of others who get in his way.

I've also heard on another board someone call X-O Manowar an amalgamation of Marvel's biggest properties, specifically Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Obviously we know Aric is unique all his own but its not hard to see these comparisons considering Marvel is more popular and is what people usually have been exposed to first.

I definitely see more Marvel in Valiant than DC if I had to make such a distinction.

Those comparisons are just considering Jim Shooter left Marvel after a failed attempt to purchase the company and started VALIANT.

As far as Psiot origins, Jonman is right in that we will have to wait and see. Some of us have speculated that the Immortal Brothers were Psiots, thus resulting in their various abilities like Aram's strength or even their immunity to the Boon (as seemed to be the case with Archer as well). Others believe they are the descendants of the brothers or of Vine interference. We do know the Bleeding Monk is several hundred hears old, so I think we can assume Psiots have been around far longer than that.

Also, maybe the plantings from long ago have something to do with it. Maybe the collective consciousness they exhibit explains how a psiot like Traveler can go though dimensions. Kind of a stretch, but who knows. Maybe the mixture of human and Vine DNA over time has brought about these dormant psionic abilities in descendants of these people.

Definitely a lot to consider here.

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I'm a longtime reader of Marvel's Merry Mutants so while I'm enjoying Harbinger very much, I do have a noob question about the nature of psiots.

Harada explains to Peter that psiots are 'an extraordinary, yet natural, phenomenon' of humanity. To me, that sounds kinda like the evolution of Homo Superior deal of the Merry Mutants but not quite.

So are psiots a result of natural human evolution? Or have they existed within humanity since Day One? Or are they a result of some outside influence on humanity, a source that may tie-in to other parts of the Valiant Universe like the Faraway or the future or alien influence?

Hmm that does seem to be the question. I guess we'll have to wait and see for sure.

Its interesting you bring up X-Men because I've always noticed that similarity. Also with Harada representing a Magneto-like character, crusading for his 'kind' even at the expense of others who get in his way.

I've also heard on another board someone call X-O Manowar an amalgamation of Marvel's biggest properties, specifically Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Obviously we know Aric is unique all his own but its not hard to see these comparisons considering Marvel is more popular and is what people usually have been exposed to first.

I definitely see more Marvel in Valiant than DC if I had to make such a distinction.

Those comparisons are just considering Jim Shooter left Marvel after a failed attempt to purchase the company and started VALIANT.

As far as Psiot origins, Jonman is right in that we will have to wait and see. Some of us have speculated that the Immortal Brothers were Psiots, thus resulting in their various abilities like Aram's strength or even their immunity to the Boon (as seemed to be the case with Archer as well). Others believe they are the descendants of the brothers or of Vine interference. We do know the Bleeding Monk is several hundred hears old, so I think we can assume Psiots have been around far longer than that.

That is an intriguing prospect. The Brothers' immortality would suggest that they or their children would have some effect on the progress and evolution of humanity. I can't comment too much on the Vine aspect since I'm still catching up on X-O but alien influence could lead to the psiots but if the Vine somehow engineered their creation, then why is it so hard to activate them? Wouldn't more psiots be born activated?

[erwinrafael]

the interesting thing I find about psiots is that their powers are all psychic-based. it's the reason why I think the Anni-Padda are different.

[hunter_peterson]

the interesting thing I find about psiots is that their powers are all psychic-based. it's the reason why I think the Anni-Padda are different.

I think of the brothers only Armstrong and Ivar are Harbingers.

Gilad was revived by the Earth's power, which likely means he's a vessel and channel of geomantic energy, which is why he revives, heals and is a bit super-strong, but not as much as Armstrong. Being physically based, his strength is pretty limited, like Bloodshot (I see them as physically on par).

Whereas Armstrong could have a psiot power that is basically a telekinetic boost to his physicality, so he has much greater and more versatile super strength, layered with the Boon's filling him with souls/necromantic energy. This basically makes him a psiot AND a battery. This explains how he can punch tyrannosaurs and humans and only hurt them as much as he wants. I mean, he would be punching holes in dudes if he was always at that strength level.

Which fits him nicely between Gilad and Ivar, who probably has only psiot-related time manipulation powers, probably still time-arcs. He was likely activated by the Boon, but Armstrong seems to have always been super-strong, so maybe he's the mysterious third born-active psiot?

[BugsySig]

the interesting thing I find about psiots is that their powers are all psychic-based. it's the reason why I think the Anni-Padda are different.

I think of the brothers only Armstrong and Ivar are Harbingers.

Gilad was revived by the Earth's power, which likely means he's a vessel and channel of geomantic energy, which is why he revives, heals and is a bit super-strong, but not as much as Armstrong. Being physically based, his strength is pretty limited, like Bloodshot (I see them as physically on par).

Whereas Armstrong could have a psiot power that is basically a telekinetic boost to his physicality, so he has much greater and more versatile super strength, layered with the Boon's filling him with souls/necromantic energy. This basically makes him a psiot AND a battery. This explains how he can punch tyrannosaurs and humans and only hurt them as much as he wants. I mean, he would be punching holes in dudes if he was always at that strength level.

Which fits him nicely between Gilad and Ivar, who probably has only psiot-related time manipulation powers, probably still time-arcs. He was likely activated by the Boon, but Armstrong seems to have always been super-strong, so maybe he's the mysterious third born-active psiot?

I think after the #0 issue we speculated that Ivar's ability to invent "machines" and Gilad's ability to track/hunt/fight could be their Psiot abilities...or its possible Armstrong was just exaggerating their abilities...after thousands of years maybe he just thinks he remembers them always having these abilities when they were actually caused by the Boon