So what is it???

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:44 am

sonicdan wrote:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/03/ ... ant-black/

Kind of underwhelming considering the fully colored pages with dialog have been released online...

That being said, I totally want one!

Hopefully I can talk my retailer into letting go of his.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:49 am

So this is VEI first "Retailer review" type item

I love it and want one....really bad.

-Brian

arghh! · Post by **arghh!** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:41 am

arghh! wrote:I don't know what it is....I just know I want it

Now that I know what it is I REALLY want it!

MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:01 pm

Mystery Revealed!

DO WANT!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:47 pm

Really cool.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:34 pm

That most certainly falls under my personal 'want' column... Also my 'cool' column.

MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:02 pm

grendeljd wrote:That most certainly falls under my personal 'want' column... Also my 'cool' column.

Likewise, as I love the ShadowMan.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:24 am

paradise wrote:I have no knowledge of this at all, but with retailers doing net Previews orders very soon, and Shadowman being in it, and it having a black cover, it seems pretty easy to guess what that may be. Or it could be something totally different.

Smart guy. Hit the nail on the head.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:26 am

BugsySig wrote:
greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:I tried, but it won't let me save the pic...didn't know you can't see it if you don't have twitter...I will keep trying.
Press ALT+PrintScreen.
Paste into Paint/Photoshop/etc.
Hard to do from an iPad

Hit the on/off button (top right) + the home button. To take a screen shot on iPad or iPhone devices.

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:43 am

Here's MY reaction...

http://youtu.be/0mfSfekiZeE

So, is EVERY retailer getting one? If not, how do they qualify?

MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:58 am

The Beyonder wrote:Here's MY reaction...

So, is EVERY retailer getting one? If not, how do they qualify?

fixed

To answer your question;

@ValiantComics

@TimewalkerBen Valiant Black was sent to our top retailers by orders. Call your local comic book store. Hope they got one! #comicmarket

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:18 am

Thanks!

I never thought I'd say this, but I really need to be spending more time on Twitter!

Guess I'll be tracking these puppies on eBay...

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:42 am

I hope my retailer is one of those...

If he is it's because I ordered so many

-Brian

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:01 am

MarrowMan wrote:
The Beyonder wrote:Here's MY reaction...

So, is EVERY retailer getting one? If not, how do they qualify?
fixed

To answer your question;

@ValiantComics

@TimewalkerBen Valiant Black was sent to our top retailers by orders. Call your local comic book store. Hope they got one! #comicmarket

I love that movie... my wife & I say that line to each other all the time...

I really hope my lcs is getting one, based on that tweet I can't be sure. I know I have been helping to keep orders decent by ordering most of the variants so far... I think they've carried 20-40 copies of nearly every issue to date. Hope that's enough... because i want that!

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:02 am

hehe - my wife and I have gotten a lot of mileage out of that line too!

I think there's only 6 of us at my LCS pulling in Valiant, so I'm fairly certain I won't have easy access to a copy!

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:19 am

betterthanezra wrote:I hope my retailer is one of those...

If he is it's because I ordered so many

-Brian

For me also, it is my orders that would notice at me LCS. And I know that is not enough. To make things worse Diamond has been shorting their/my orders. The Archer and Armstrongs I ordered have not arrived yet. Maybe next week I will get some of them (and no variant).

/Magnus

Newton · Post by **Newton** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:22 am

Unity 2013

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:52 pm

I just had a look at my lcs's expected shipment for this week, and there it was - Valiant Black.

I called to see if they were getting a bunch, if it was a freebie or not, and they actually didn't even know what it was,

... but they had a letter in their invoice stating that it would be shipping next week instead of this week... so I should hopefully be getting one put aside at least

They *did* finally get their A&A #1 1:100, but still no sign of the A&A #1 2nd print...

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:46 pm

Carson wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
greg wrote:
BugsySig wrote:I tried, but it won't let me save the pic...didn't know you can't see it if you don't have twitter...I will keep trying.
Press ALT+PrintScreen.
Paste into Paint/Photoshop/etc.
Hard to do from an iPad
Hit the on/off button (top right) + the home button. To take a screen shot on iPad or iPhone devices.

You just blew my MIND

Guess there is no need to post it now, though.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:51 pm

I have to imagine that if VEI put this on the shelf for anyone to pick up, casual buyers would be enticed, interested in something they aren't already buying.

I see the point that VEI is trying to give incentives to Retailers, so this is their "Thank you" but it seems to be going to the retailers who are already buying their stuff.

Shooter did his best to make these cool incentives available to the readers. IMO, this is where VEI, so far, is missing the mark.

I was re-reading Solar and read Jims response to X-Men #1 selling a bajillioin copies by flooding the market with multiple prints of the same book with different covers to artificially boost their sales...

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:39 pm

Zaphod wrote:I have to imagine that if VEI put this on the shelf for anyone to pick up, casual buyers would be enticed, interested in something they aren't already buying.

I see the point that VEI is trying to give incentives to Retailers, so this is their "Thank you" but it seems to be going to the retailers who are already buying their stuff.

Shooter did his best to make these cool incentives available to the readers. IMO, this is where VEI, so far, is missing the mark.

I was re-reading Solar and read Jims response to X-Men #1 selling a bajillioin copies by flooding the market with multiple prints of the same book with different covers to artificially boost their sales...

Isn't VEI already winning over a lot of fans with their Gold promos on twitter and Fan Art Fridays? So far, this is the only retailer only incentive that I have seen, and you already consider it as VEI missing the mark?

MarrowMan · Post by **MarrowMan** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:43 pm

erwinrafael wrote:
Zaphod wrote:I have to imagine that if VEI put this on the shelf for anyone to pick up, casual buyers would be enticed, interested in something they aren't already buying.

I see the point that VEI is trying to give incentives to Retailers, so this is their "Thank you" but it seems to be going to the retailers who are already buying their stuff.

Shooter did his best to make these cool incentives available to the readers. IMO, this is where VEI, so far, is missing the mark.

I was re-reading Solar and read Jims response to X-Men #1 selling a bajillioin copies by flooding the market with multiple prints of the same book with different covers to artificially boost their sales...
Isn't VEI already winning over a lot of fans with their Gold promos on twitter and Fan Art Fridays? So far, this is the only retailer only incentive that I have seen, and you already consider it as VEI missing the mark?

Being a recipient of lots of free swag from VEI, I have to admit, that helps in me buying every issue so far (I probably would regardless) I don't see the other companies doing jack squat, all they do is keep rebooting the same old crap over and over and regurgitating old stale ideas.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:21 pm

erwinrafael wrote:Isn't VEI already winning over a lot of fans with their Gold promos on twitter and Fan Art Fridays? So far, this is the only retailer only incentive that I have seen, and you already consider it as VEI missing the mark?

those are all "promo's" that are pandering to the same audience. Those people following them on twitter or involved on this site are already on board.

What about the casual reader, what is their impact towards new readers with these promo's? I'd say very negligible.

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:04 am

Zaphod wrote:
erwinrafael wrote:Isn't VEI already winning over a lot of fans with their Gold promos on twitter and Fan Art Fridays? So far, this is the only retailer only incentive that I have seen, and you already consider it as VEI missing the mark?
those are all "promo's" that are pandering to the same audience. Those people following them on twitter or involved on this site are already on board.

What about the casual reader, what is their impact towards new readers with these promo's? I'd say very negligible.

Taking care of the core audience is a good strategy before expanding to new readership. They have to secure their niche audience.

I am also pretty sure that the 20K-ish numbers being sold by Valiant for their titles is not composed only of hardcore Valiants. I know a couple of people who are non-Valiant readers who picked up the books. The true test of their marketing to "new" readers is how they would market their trades, which are the most accessible avenues for new readers to jump in. The individual issues, in my opinion, are really for the hardcore fans who are willing to wait out the one month in between issues.

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