Valiant? How about... NEW. YORK. TIMES!!!

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:36 pm

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iwantvaliant · Post by **iwantvaliant** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:57 pm

So this was in today's Times? Do those who feel the need to have complete collections need to get a copy?

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:11 pm

Wow, talks of multiple movies, very interesting!

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:20 pm

Great Great Read!

One thing though, Shadowman & Ninjak movies in the works after BloodShot, Harbinger and Archer & Armstrong? One would think X-O Manowar would be possibly the best movie they got besides BloodShot. Just imagine! Or maybe they are holding out till they make money off the other movies because X-O seems like i'd cost bookoo loot to make if done right!

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:25 pm

In case a few people didn't read it yet...or may have glossed over it...I believe they said

SHADOWMAN

was in film development!

5 movies in development...awesome. Also didn't know the background of all those board members, which bodes well for future films. I know some would say they don't want Valiant to jump into a saturated superhero movie market and risk failure, but just look at what it has done for not only Marvel, but indies like TWD, Hellboy, RED, etc. And if they can just have success with the first one they develop, studios will keep coming back to the Valiant well for more.

Personally I would love a Harbinger TV series on a cable network. A real "adult" superhero show so as not to get passed over as a Heroes "ripoff".

XO not being mentioned for development is probably a combination of the high cost of a sci fi epic like that and the similarities to Iron Man. But aBloodshot shoot-em-up/horror/sci-fi film? An Archer and Armstrong buddy adventure/comedy? Sign me up

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:33 pm

Acclaim filed for bankruptcy protection in 2005, and, two years later, a group of investors — led by two comics enthusiasts who were still in college, Jason Kothari and Mr. Shamdasani — snapped up the Valiant library for a few hundred thousand dollars.

Is any of this right?

I love the talk about the movie deals, I just wonder how much control Valiant will have and if they'll interconnect like the Marvel movies.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:44 pm

Great article and impressive coverage!

I am not entirely certain that the timeline of the Acclaim bankruptcy and acquisition of the Valiant library is 100% accurate tho.

DAN

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:49 pm

I thought their bid for the library (initially the 2nd place bid) was closer to a million rather than a "few hundred thousand dollars"
DAN

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:53 pm

sonicdan wrote:I thought their bid for the library (initially the 2nd place bid) was closer to a million rather than a "few hundred thousand dollars"
DAN

If I recall correctly it was around 650K.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:57 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
sonicdan wrote:I thought their bid for the library (initially the 2nd place bid) was closer to a million rather than a "few hundred thousand dollars"
DAN

If I recall correctly it was around 650K.

That would count as a few hundred thousand...and makes it seem like they got a steal on properties that once sold for $65 million.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:08 pm

Exciting stuff.

You'd think X-O would be the most natural and easiest fit for a movie. Perhaps they're holding off and waiting until they get in a groove, movie-wise.

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:14 pm

MoonChild wrote:Or maybe they are holding out till they make money off the other movies because X-O seems like i'd cost bookoo loot to make if done right!

jmatt wrote:You'd think X-O would be the most natural and easiest fit for a movie. Perhaps they're holding off and waiting until they get in a groove, movie-wise.

Exactly.

The first Spider-man movie came after Blade and X-Men. You don't "ramp up" by doing the best first. Solid first, blockbuster later.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:20 pm

BugsySig wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
sonicdan wrote:I thought their bid for the library (initially the 2nd place bid) was closer to a million rather than a "few hundred thousand dollars"
DAN

If I recall correctly it was around 650K.
That would count as a few hundred thousand...and makes it seem like they got a steal on properties that once sold for $65 million.

Agreed that it was a steal. The potential for these characters is unlimited. I'd imagine fighting out the trademark dispute wasn't cheap.
I am glad Dinesh and Co. were willing & able to fight it out were able to bring back Valiant!
DAN

caniac · Post by **caniac** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:32 pm

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:36 pm

sonicdan wrote:Great article and impressive coverage!
I am not entirely certain that the timeline of the Acclaim bankruptcy and acquisition of the Valiant library is 100% accurate tho.
DAN

I thought the Acclaim bankruptcy was closer to 2002 and the auction was around 2005, but I might be wrong.

Either way, all of this is very exciting news for Valiant. I just hope it all works out with the movies. Ninjak seems like such a risky move.

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:22 pm

I want to know when these guys are going to go public to raise the cash?!?!? Id love to own me some VEI stock

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:32 pm

sonicdan wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
sonicdan wrote:I thought their bid for the library (initially the 2nd place bid) was closer to a million rather than a "few hundred thousand dollars"
DAN

If I recall correctly it was around 650K.
That would count as a few hundred thousand...and makes it seem like they got a steal on properties that once sold for $65 million.
Agreed that it was a steal. The potential for these characters is unlimited. I'd imagine fighting out the trademark dispute wasn't cheap.
I am glad Dinesh and Co. were willing & able to fight it out were able to bring back Valiant!
DAN

Well Put

Aram · Post by **Aram** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:37 pm

etos45 wrote:
sonicdan wrote:Great article and impressive coverage!
I am not entirely certain that the timeline of the Acclaim bankruptcy and acquisition of the Valiant library is 100% accurate tho.
DAN
I thought the Acclaim bankruptcy was closer to 2002 and the auction was around 2005, but I might be wrong.

Either way, all of this is very exciting news for Valiant. I just hope it all works out with the movies. Ninjak seems like such a risky move.

Bankruptcy started on September 1, 2004. I believe it was sometime in 2005 or 2006 that VEI was able to purchase the rights from the bankruptcy proceedings and then it took another 1-2 years to battle out the rights in court, the moment they were in the clear is when they started publishing the first 3 hardback collections in 2007 & 2008.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:40 pm

Great Article and a great way to kick off SDCC week. That's what I call momentum.

-Brian

R Daneel · Post by **R Daneel** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:00 am

greg wrote:You don't "ramp up" by doing the best first. Solid first, blockbuster later.

Yea that is what I am thinking/hoping. The XO effects can't be easy to pull off well.

Great NYT read ... Some heavyweights on the board! Exciting times for sure.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:23 am

Aram wrote:
etos45 wrote:
sonicdan wrote:Great article and impressive coverage!
I am not entirely certain that the timeline of the Acclaim bankruptcy and acquisition of the Valiant library is 100% accurate tho.
DAN
I thought the Acclaim bankruptcy was closer to 2002 and the auction was around 2005, but I might be wrong.

Either way, all of this is very exciting news for Valiant. I just hope it all works out with the movies. Ninjak seems like such a risky move.
Bankruptcy started on September 1, 2004. I believe it was sometime in 2005 or 2006 that VEI was able to purchase the rights from the bankruptcy proceedings and then it took another 1-2 years to battle out the rights in court, the moment they were in the clear is when they started publishing the first 3 hardback collections in 2007 & 2008.

I would say the purchase was late spring 2005.

/Magnus

PS, nice picture.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:07 am

I saw on Twitter that this article is page 1 of the Business section. So I guess if anyone wants a hard copy of this, that would be the place to look. Though, it may have been yesterday's article (do they do Sundays?).

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:41 am

betterthanezra wrote:Great Article and a great way to kick off SDCC week. That's what I call momentum.

-Brian

I agree B. I VERY interested to see what the response to Valiant is at SDCC this year. You KNOW I'll be reppin with my Valiant swag.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:51 am

Very awesome. I'm proud of the boys.

tchalla8 · Post by **tchalla8** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:37 pm

etos45 wrote:I saw on Twitter that this article is page 1 of the Business section. So I guess if anyone wants a hard copy of this, that would be the place to look. Though, it may have been yesterday's article (do they do Sundays?).

This was at the bottom of the online article.

"A version of this article appeared in print on July 9, 2012, on page B1 of the New York edition with the headline: In the Footsteps of Marvel."

So its today's New York Times

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