How Did you Support VALIANT the First Time Around?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:28 pm

Greg obviously created this site, and Magnus had his Magnus Number Cruncher site, but what did everyone else do?

And if VALIANT comes back in a modern reincarnation of the original universe, would you go back to offering the same support again?

k_c_collectibles · Post by **k_c_collectibles** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:32 pm

I bought one copy of everything once I was drawn in (on Bloodshot #1). I also bought extra copies of all the crossover issues (Chaos Effect and Unity) so I could keep them separate as a whole story arc. I would GLADLY do that again!! Hell, I might even buy 2 full runs - one for reading and one to just keep for myself.

Chris

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:37 pm

i followed mainly shadowman, bloodshot and solar the first time around to begin with. I also followed dr mirage.

I didn't get into valiant pre-unity, but during unity.

I would certainly support a new valiant universe, if it was good. I'm very excited about the possibility, but there is no unconditional support

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:40 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:would you go back to offering the same support again?

Yes, more so than before.

/Magnus

putz · Post by **putz** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:47 pm

I bought Harby when it came out. I then I started on X-O. Tried Rai for a couple of issues but didnt like it. Then A&A. Those were about it.

Dr. Phil Seleski · Post by **Dr. Phil Seleski** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:02 pm

The first time around I started right before Unity because the cover art caught my eye and I was fairly new to comics so I was open to almost anything. I gathered as many of the back issues as I could at first since they were still on a reasonably low number for most of the titles. Then all of the Unity issues started arriving in my local comic book store so I quickly snatched all those up and then proceeded to buy every single book right ubtil after birthquake when I started to lose interest for whatever reasons. I just recently started going back to complete my collection now that I am older and have more money to spend.

It used to suck totalling up my weekly comic book bill when I only made 80 bucks a week to start.

So if or when they decide to start putting out the old books in the spirit of the Valiant I remember back in the early 90's I'll be right there all over again.

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:11 pm

I was the typical wizard reader that bought every post-Unity Valiant issue to hit the shelves for over a year, and two or more of anything that looked collectible.

I would only support Valiant again if they got Jim Shooter back, or gave the same attention to character development and unified continuity that he did.

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:20 pm

I created a Valiant email based fan newsletter. We lasted about 2 years, and had about 100 people.

Good time.

Chris

dickybendy · Post by **dickybendy** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:35 pm

I started buying from Solar 1, and then bought everything that came out. once I lost interest in a book (geomancer, timewalker etc.) I stop buying em. followed some of my favs until the end (eternal warrior, shadowman) but gave up on most when I heard they were gonna be cancelled soon. tried acclaim books but didnt stick. then I cursed the day I got the "ugly kid joe" tattoo , and changed my named to X-O Dougowar.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:35 pm

I think that a good idea would be for people like Magnus to offer content from their site on the published comics.

Like imagine a section of the comics devoted to continuity, designed to catch new and old readers up to what happened in the old comics and the new ones.

Or sections devoted to technology, to characters, etc, all done by fans willing and able to do the work to be in line with the new owners plans.

It works for Star Trek, lol.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:30 pm

My support of Valiant was pretty typical. I bought all the titles I liked and tried out all the rest. Plus I wouldn't shut up about how cool the titles were to everyone I talked (something I still do

). Made some posts to let everyone know Unity 2000 was coming out and when. I'll probably do the same thing this time around but if given a chance I'ld definately do more.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:32 pm

Here's the flip side of the topic.

Say that the new owners do bring back the original VALIANT Universe picking up from where it left off but nine years later and they do something you don't like (i.e. Jack is dead), would you still offer your support if they did do something else you did like (i.e. _____)?

shaxper · Post by **shaxper** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:45 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:Here's the flip side of the topic.

Say that the new owners do bring back the original VALIANT Universe picking up from where it left off but nine years later and they do something you don't like (i.e. Jack is dead), would you still offer your support if they did do something else you did like (i.e. _____)?

I don't really understand your question. Inevitably, any comic book is going to take directions that don't please ALL the fans ALL the time. So long as there's still something to enjoy in the book, why not continue to support it?

putz · Post by **putz** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:46 pm

Yes.
thats the whole reason I buy them. Cause I like them. If they did something to one character I didnt like, say made X-O into a gay Mexican midget (not that theres anything wrong with that), then I wouldnt buy it. But if they changed a character from something I didnt like into something I did, I would buy it ( couldnt find an example).
Whomever does it will be dealing with an "old" fanbase but also will be trying to get a "new" fan base established.
Either way, I'll buy it and see if I like it. Just like everything else.

SolarFan777 · Post by **SolarFan777** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:00 pm

I jump into Valiant a few months before Unity and got into about 3/4 of the titles for the first 2 years.

Of course I also named my three girls Flamingo, Zepher and Kris.

(Which suprisingly didn't bother my wife Leeja)

COMICKINGS · Post by **COMICKINGS** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:01 pm

When I first opened my store in 1993,I had a video game called Robotron 2004 in the store,and I stripped all of the graphics off and had a sign shop make some large decals for the sides,using the image off of Magnus #0,And used the Magnus logo for the front of the machine to make it look like it was a Magnus machine.It's a pretty kick *SQUEE* game with a guy cruising around the screen blastin robots trying to save people walking around before they got taken out by the robots.I sent some pics of it to Valiant hoping to get it printed in a comic,but no such luck.I did get a couple gold copies of Magns #21 though.I ended up selling the machine to a customer of mine.I got a polaroid picture of it somewhere,one day when I find it I'll post it. Joey

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:08 pm

COMICKINGS wrote:I ended up selling the machine to a customer of mine.I got a polaroid picture of it somewhere,one day when I find it I'll post it. Joey

Would love to see a pic of that!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:12 pm

Eric Jackson wrote:
COMICKINGS wrote:I ended up selling the machine to a customer of mine.I got a polaroid picture of it somewhere,one day when I find it I'll post it. Joey

Would love to see a pic of that!

Me too! What a cool idea that was. Too bad you sold it.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Sun May 01, 2005 12:46 am

i ended up starting with harbinger and then quickly started getting every other title for about two years, then became a broke college student. x-o and shadowman were always my favorites. i've been trying to hype valiant the past few months at the shop, if books get relaunched i'm all over it...hell i'll just start adding valiant titles to people's pull lists

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:48 am

Eric Jackson wrote:
COMICKINGS wrote:I ended up selling the machine to a customer of mine.I got a polaroid picture of it somewhere,one day when I find it I'll post it. Joey

Would love to see a pic of that!

Me too. Robotron, Robot Fighter. How cool is that?

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Sun May 01, 2005 10:38 am

i was lucky enough to be working at a comic store during the valiant days. my support was talking the books up and getting them out the door. my store was one of 5 in north carolina, south carolina, georgia and florida and we had the highest valiant sales of any of the other stores.

i'd make displays using the valiant comics. we had a pegboard and book racks that fit into it. i'd make a big sign with the valiant star on it that read "The Rising Star in Comics" and place the books around the sign. i think i still have that thing somewhere, it was huge.

i also made t-shirts to wear to conventions. i'd buy plain white t-shirts, stretch them out on a piece of card board with a valiant voice centerfold on it and trace it onto the shirt and color it with fabric markers. they actually came out pretty cool considering. the shirts would wear out long before the image did.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Sun May 01, 2005 12:29 pm

That sounds VERY cool Joey! I -loved- that Robotron game.

I supported Valiant by getting its logo on my left ankle. I showed that to Layton & Gonzolez at the '94 Chicago Comicon and it netted me about 10 golds.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sun May 01, 2005 12:36 pm

david_albuq wrote:That sounds VERY cool Joey! I -loved- that Robotron game.

I supported Valiant by getting its logo on my left ankle. I showed that to Layton & Gonzolez at the '94 Chicago Comicon and it netted me about 10 golds.

Picture please!

/Magnus

PS, hope Joey finds his picture soon, sounds cool!

RyanMcLelland · Post by **RyanMcLelland** » Sun May 01, 2005 3:45 pm

I bought them right until the end.

Well, just Quantum and Woody and the Unity 2000 mini - but that's alot more then most bought at the end.

shadowmite · Post by **shadowmite** » Sun May 01, 2005 6:10 pm

I did not...but I will now. I will tell my comic shop about Valiant and post on my old message board. The best would be to have Wizard publish a letter, has anyone tried this?

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