Deathmate - Does Anything Significant Happen?

[400yrs]

I'm nearly to Deathmate in my re-reading. I do plan to try it, but is there really any reason to read it if it's horrendous?

I know I didn't like it back in the day.

[Elveen]

I'm nearly to Deathmate in my re-reading. I do plan to try it, but is there really any reason to read it if it's horrendous?

I know I didn't like it back in the day.

I don't think I've ever read all of it. But I know what I read stunk.

[sbcomics]

Well, if you re-read it, you can warn me how bad it's going to be when I get to it in my reading project ... I remember being disappointed in it when it came out years ago, but my tastes have changed since then - I think I'm more tolerant of things that aren't exactly what I'm looking for. But I wouldn't expect much.

I do remember Gen 13 was introduced, if that helps you any

[Draco]

To have bought it and thought you got anything close to your moneys worth is just plain wrong.
Disjointed stories that make little or no sense using somewhere along the way a few of the characters we all love.
People have said the books that were done partly by the Valiant side are ok, but that does not make them good.
The image books were not even better than average in the art department.
The liefeld stuff is truly shocking and can be marked down with minus figures for failing to deliver anything you could ever expect from a comic, a start, middle or end and how about a plot that the issue follows, which is in turn linked to the rest of the series.

So hey if you are reading the whole Valiant universe, at some point this needs to be done, but it is as bad as people say and time will not change this.
I appreciate that a few people like to joke about liking it back in the day, but not one person can offer logical reasoning behind this, what was ok or good about it, what happened etc.

It has to go down as the worst inter company crossover ever and could only be beaten by smarter people trying to do a worse job on purpose.

[ian_house]

To have bought it and thought you got anything close to your moneys worth is just plain wrong.
Disjointed stories that make little or no sense using somewhere along the way a few of the characters we all love.
People have said the books that were done partly by the Valiant side are ok, but that does not make them good.
The image books were not even better than average in the art department.
The liefeld stuff is truly shocking and can be marked down with minus figures for failing to deliver anything you could ever expect from a comic, a start, middle or end and how about a plot that the issue follows, which is in turn linked to the rest of the series.

So hey if you are reading the whole Valiant universe, at some point this needs to be done, but it is as bad as people say and time will not change this.
I appreciate that a few people like to joke about liking it back in the day, but not one person can offer logical reasoning behind this, what was ok or good about it, what happened etc.

It has to go down as the worst inter company crossover ever and could only be beaten by smarter people trying to do a worse job on purpose.

From the Valiant side nowt important happens, as SB says Gen 13 makes a first appearance.

[400yrs]

It has to go down as the worst inter company crossover ever and could only be beaten by smarter people trying to do a worse job on purpose.

[wrunow]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

[ian_house]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

Did they ever finish Image United?

[dave]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

[dave]

I tried to re-read it recently and I could not read the Blue or Black issues. It just made so little sense, and there was nothing there. Very frustrating, because I wanted to really read it and maybe think of some ways it could have been better.

[Daniel Jackson]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

Good one.

[tmcneil82]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

Did they ever finish Image United?

Nope, my buddy is still waiting on issue 5 i think. That we ordered in like March.

[ian_house]

I thought Image was still working on their part of this crossover.

Did they ever finish Image United?

Nope, my buddy is still waiting on issue 5 i think. That we ordered in like March.

[sanman]

I'm nearly to Deathmate in my re-reading. I do plan to try it, but is there really any reason to read it if it's horrendous?

I know I didn't like it back in the day.

The Black issue is the first appearance of Gen13—not really a big deal anymore but was fairly significant back when readers actually cared about Fairchild, Grunge, etc.

[superman-prime]

it still gets a buck but thats about it

[400yrs]

So I've read the first 2 previews. Maybe I should rephrase my initial question....

Do the stories told in Deathmate affect Valiant continuity in any way? If I skipped this, would it make any difference in my re-reading the whole universe?

Archer going after Shadowman in the Orange/Pink preview feels like a story forced just to get characters into the book.

[magnusr]

So I've read the first 2 previews.

Green has some interest as it shows that Deathmate is a world where Unity never happened.

If I skipped this, would it make any difference in my re-reading the whole universe?

No, it's just that we see what happens to Solar the Explorer from Rai 0, which makes no difference at all.

/Magnus

[jridd28]

Deathmate was soooo incredible that it single handedly caused the comic bubble to burst. Most readers said that it was so good of a story that they were never able to really read anything else. he he he

[slym2none]

Deathmate was soooo incredible that it single handedly caused the comic bubble to burst. Most readers said that it was so good of a story that they were never able to really read anything else. he he he

That was the onset of blindness caused by looking at too much Liefeld-clone art.



-slym

[jridd28]

Deathmate was soooo incredible that it single handedly caused the comic bubble to burst. Most readers said that it was so good of a story that they were never able to really read anything else. he he he

That was the onset of blindness caused by looking at too much Liefeld-clone art.



-slym

Word!!!

[Chiclo]

So I've read the first 2 previews. Maybe I should rephrase my initial question....

Do the stories told in Deathmate affect Valiant continuity in any way? If I skipped this, would it make any difference in my re-reading the whole universe?

Archer going after Shadowman in the Orange/Pink preview feels like a story forced just to get characters into the book.

Other than picking up on one thread from Rai 0, no, the Deathmate stories don't have any relation on Valiant continuity.

I chose the word "relation" carefully because even with flushing out the story behind Solar the Explorer it does not have any affect on Valiant continuity. If the curiosity is killing you, you can easily read the Prologue and Epilogue sparing yourself the agony in between.

[400yrs]

Thanks. I guess I need to go back and read Rai 0 again. I don't even remember Solar the Explorer.

[sonicdan]

Thanks. I guess I need to go back and read Rai 0 again. I don't even remember Solar the Explorer.

He's shown in the last panel of page 16
DAN

[HaloReach2010]

Thanks, Dan.

Now I dont have to dig these out to check!

I usually use Deathmate books as padding when shipping small packages, just used some recently, so I didnt have the DM books on hand...!

[Daniel Jackson]

Thanks, Dan.

Now I dont have to dig these out to check!

I usually use Deathmate books as padding when shipping small packages, just used some recently, so I didnt have the DM books on hand...!

The first issue of Turok works well for that too....