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greg · Last edited by greg on Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:44 am; edited 2 times in total

VALIANT SALE FINALIZED
04/27/2005
According to information that I have received today, the Valiant and Acclaim characters
have been purchased. The winning bidders are Ashok Kothari, Jason Kothari,
and Chandra Shamdasani. Though this group was not the highest bidder in the
auction on April 12, 2005, the sale was not finalized until all terms and conditions
had been agreed upon by the bidding party and the bankruptcy court.
Those terms have been finalized today, and the paperwork has been completed.
This group has expressed an interest in bringing back the Valiant characters
as they were first envisioned during the early years of the comics.

UPDATE 04/28/2005
I have been informed that the Kothari-Kothari-Shamdasani group
is definitely not VIP LLC.

cinlach@aol.com · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject:

WHAT THE *SQUEE*?!?!

so taddeo DIDN'T end up with the characters??

*SQUEE* it...this sucks sweaty donkey nuts.
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BWAAAAA?

daydreamscomics · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject:

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Does anyone know anything about these buyers and what they have planned?

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tssgery · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:

The name "Shamdasani" sounds familiar...

Dino?

Any connection?

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Eric Jackson · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject:

X-O HoboJoe · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:

Great, so now not only does he have half the Unity Reds, he's got the rights to the characters too.

Of course, if Dino is in on this somehow, then we're sure to see Magnus back in the fold in the future. Thumbs Up

Eric Jackson · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject:

I assume the issue still remains for the copyright or trademark or whatever of the names? Or is this the valiant group?

cinlach@aol.com · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject:

i believe these are the VIP, LLC people...

my head hurts...
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hulk181man · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject:

I think you're correct. If this is the VIP group it actually simplifies things to a degree....

wrunow · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject:

Let's just wait a little and see what's up, I am sure the answers will all be available in the next few days.

andrew · X-O, and 24 other letters Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 208

This whole ordeal makes so little sense.

COMICKINGS · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject:

well I guess we now know why there was complete silence from Taddeo since it all went down. Can't wait to find out the background on the new owners.

dellamorte · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject:

Ok this is starting to get interesting. Congrats to the new new owners, do us proud guys.

400yrs · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject:

I wonder what it was that the bankruptcy courts and Taddeo couldn't agree on. I'm guessing that these people are the third party and not VIP as they are not names that I recognize from any past incarnation of Valiant. Shamdasani.......what kind of a dork would have that last name? Wink

Wonder if he'll still hook us up with Zoom Suit stuff?

Eric Jackson · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

as it says in this article: http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32538

while they were not the "highest" bidder, they still bid the same amount of 925,000.

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject:

Wow, this is all very strange. I thought all John had to do was wait for a few details to be worked out. What an odd turn of events.

tcolli · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject:

What the H E L L?

Club

ckb · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject:

Well, I hate to say it, but I do know that Dino was in NY recently.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject:

Wellllllllll....I hate to say this publically, cause I like John, but...his vision of only publishing one book a year wasn't going to fly.

We'll see. Smile

whetteon · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject:

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mrwoogieman · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject:

Maybe the fact that VIP had applications in for the trademarks was a tipping factor?....

BodaZoffa · Shooter of the breeze Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 2560

I'm guessing they threatened to tie him up in legal court too long with this. Taddeo wieghed the consequnces & let them buy the rights.

Boda

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject:

betterthanezra · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:

magnusr

ManofTheAtom · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject:

The winners should just team up with John and produce the comics together.

At the end of the day they all want the same thing, to see VALIANT comics again and make money off it.

Instead of fighting over how much to pay the court for the characters they should have pulled their resources together to pay as little as possible for them (there was only two of them, so they could have kept the price in the low 200's), and then use the rest of their budget to produce the actual comics.

If they both offered the same ammount of 925,000 each, had they combined their money and paid only 200,000 they could have over a million and a half as production capital.

Well, hopefully this can still be an option and if John really lost he can join the winning group as a finantial backer or something.
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sonicdan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:

My congrats to the winners as well!
DAN

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magnusr

Valiant OCD · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:

Remember back during the CHAT with Mr. Taddeo? Remember Dino's cool, businesslike barrage of intricate questions? Planning to bid against the man sure would explain his demeanor.

Or maybe, Dino's wife finnally figured out a way to get his mind of those DAMN Valiants!!!!!

DINO,..........

What do you have to say for yourself son? Are you our daddy now? Surprised

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Chuck · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:10 am Post subject:

WTF is going on Surprised

I also saw the 'dino' connection on the bidders list too. DINO is there a connection?

Wow, John got bumped Surprised

Like I said on the other thread, I just wonder how long it will be before Valiant characters will be published again Frustrated

I think things just got more complicated; for better or worse, I have no idea Frustrated

redskindavyd · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:34 am Post subject:

Wow, that kinda came out of the blue, I thought it was pretty much a done deal b4. Can't wait to hear more about it.

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This is very interesting. I'd thought that everything was locked up since Newsarama announced that the sale had been finalized to Mr. Taddeo on the 22nd. I'd be very interested in hearing what happened to cause things to fall apart at the 11th hour.

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myron · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:57 am Post subject:

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:08 am Post subject:

This is probably better off because it would appear that Taddeo had no idea about what he was actually buying...It will be interesting to see what happens with all of this.. Thumbs Up

Unblessed · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:11 am Post subject:

I saw Dino talking with Jim Lee at the Image table between the Marvel and DC table at the latest comic con. He had a cheese burger and fries. He used one of his Unity Reds as toilet paper, to light his Cuban cigar, and gave the rest and told the valet 'use that to wipe her down' in reference to his 1970 Chevy Nova.

I also heard he recently purchased a few bridges over Hudson River. I think the Washington and Brooklyn are no longer for sale.

~The Unblessed Soul

andrew · X-O, and 24 other letters Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 208

Honestly, if this is the VIP group and they got it because of their going after the trademarks, that's pretty *SQUEE*. As if we need more shady scumbags getting hold of the Valiant properties.

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:26 am Post subject:

wrunow · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:

wrunow · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:

andrew · X-O, and 24 other letters Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 208

If it's not the VIP group, that's awesome.

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Todd Luck · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:

Needless to say anyone gets ahold of some solid, confirmed information about the mystery trio post it ASAP. Hope they want to do comics

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:15 am Post subject:

k_c_collectibles · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:21 am Post subject:

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm....

All I can say is WOW - what a strange turn of events. I thought JT had won the auction, but it appears I am wrong. As long as the characters I love are done right I will gladly support whoever publishes them, ya know? Thumbs Up

Congrats to the new owners - Hopefully you are on board in some way, shape or form Dino - that last name does look familiar... Very Happy

Chris

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greg · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:36 am Post subject:

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:38 am Post subject:

Todd Luck · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:40 am Post subject:

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:59 am Post subject:

DawgPhan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:03 am Post subject:

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:04 am Post subject:

sonicdan · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:

So sounds like the buying group has expressed an interest in bringing back the Valiant characters
as they were first envisioned during the early years of the comics?
Holy smokes!
New comics featuring the Valiant characters could soon be a reality.
(and done the right way!)
DAN

wrunow · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:54 am Post subject:

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

tssgery · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

Notice how Dino has been absent for a few days... very suspicious indeed...

Personally, I hope he is involved somehow. Maybe we can get a DVcVSS going!

wrunow · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject:

X-O HoboJoe · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject:

If Dino's in on it, SIGN ME UP. We know he cares about these characters and the valiant fan community. When I've bought stuff from him in the past, he's gone way above and beyond to make sure I was happy with my purchase.

Advice to Dino: Hire MOTA as a writer and X-Omatic as an inker -- get him to pencil if you can.

Question: How many PM's you gotten in the last two days, Dino? Laughing

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject:

RyanMcLelland · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject:

I've been pitching a new Harbinger product since, wow, forever.

And I have, for the past two years, continued to pitch my little heart out.

Here's hoping that I'll be able to pitch again...

justin · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject:

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject:

X-O HoboJoe · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:

justin · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject:

X-O HoboJoe · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject:

Huh? I'm confused . . . again. Very Happy

Redtrax · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:

Ladies and gentlemen welcome to confusion central.
Smile

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jedimarley · Evra'Ting Ire Mon. Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 14817

I don't know?

I think we are getting our hopes up. There's more to this then meets the eye.

I think it's going to be a LONG time before we see ANY Valiant comics.

Neutral

whetteon · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject:

*sings*TRANSFORMERS!..*sings*

(take it jedimarley)

Technique · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject:

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magnusr · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject:

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Eric Jackson · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject:

if they come out with books i hope they choose a place and pick up from there, no re-telling,, i don't want to see 'ultimate harbinger'! Wink

UnknownTales · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:

Starting from the *VALIANT (1991-1996)* characters would be great. The post UNITY 2000 universe would work too. Heck, there could be a few flashback scenes to tie up the unfinnished UNITY 2000 storyline...Just get something to print. I'm getting itchy waiting...
Every time I see that there is a change in that Acclaim forclosure sale I kick my wife's dog. Someone find out the real story while it still has a few uncracked ribs left...

greg · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:

UPDATE 04/28/2005
I have been informed that the Kothari-Kothari-Shamdasani group
is definitely not VIP LLC.

400yrs · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

GGSAE · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject:

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject:

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Kothari-Kothari-Shamdasani-Harada

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davidb · Turok, or not to rock... Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 689

One quick question for those of you "in the know" - do you know when the new owners might be making a public announcement as to their plas for the characters? I know that you can't give specifics, but even if you can just say "soon," "very soon," or "not for a few months" that would be great.

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SolarFan777 · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject:

I just spent 20 min. reading this 7 page thread and I still don't know what's going on! Surprised

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Daniel Jackson · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject:

magnusr · Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:

speedracex · Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:51 am Post subject:

just when you thought it was over......

gowaltrip · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject:

shadowmite · Sigh-Lord Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 265

Finished!

Sounds like very good news. The other bidders do not look like they understand what Valiant is and might have tried to copy Marvel. I did not like the idea of mini series and variant covers so early in the new Valiant. Valiant made the best special editions but they paid for it and the comic world is different now. I hope the new owners tell us what they have planned soon.

DeadshotFan · Rai and the Future Posts Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 14

Okay, I think I follow this. Taddaeo (spelling?) is out. The guys who won have applied for trademarks? But despite all the hoopla Magnus and Solar are not included in this package? And the people who have Magnus and Solar do not really HAVE them so much as they were on loan to Valiant initially? Where is Turok?
Bottom line for me is Eternal Warrior coming back? I have no clue past Valiant issue #46 as to this characters ultimate fate. Not sure I want to know.
Magnus supposedly is due in GN format but what I saw did not look to much like Manning's vision so I doubt I will get to excited.
I am confused.

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Todd Luck · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:

riftt · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject:

So where are the rights to the actual valiant output? I'm thinking in terms of reprints and trades - who owns the artwork? This is as important to me as any new prospective relaunch.

magnusr · Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject:

BodaZoffa · Shooter of the breeze Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 2560

I can't understand why there is so much sparked interest by investors on buying this property when it has been dead for 10yrs. As far as the majority of comic collectors & investors are concerned... Valiant is ancient history.

Now, to those select few (us and a few other collectors) we realize the potential for a Valiant re-launch. But, it investors wanted this property that bad, why did'nt they just buy it from Akklaim years ago. I'm sure Akklaim would have sold.

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DawgPhan · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:37 am Post subject:

wrunow · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 7:56 am Post subject:

Patience gentleman is a virtue when dealing with issues like this, someone is trying to make a deal on these properties, probably has a game plan already, and needs to make sure the deal is right so the rug can't get pulled out from under him.

We all know how one of the original partners in VALIANT (you know who) lost control because his deal wasn't right, let's give these new people plenty of time so his plans will have a solid legal and financial base.

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soundoftheuniverse · Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:

The more I hear about these guys and their tactics the more they feel like Marvel, DC or some other big player who's tying to protect their comic line from competition.

This has always been my personal worse case scenario. If it's uncovered these guys are big funny book players I think we can kiss our characters goodbye.

PS. Archi, I read your post and I've got your back. I dunno about 100 letters a day but I will raise a stink to high heaven if some funny book manufacturer thinks they're going to let my Valiant boys rot in their compost heap of unused properties.
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ValiantFanSince1991 · Rai and the Future Posts Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 19

Wow, as a hard-core former Valiant fan who (for a while at least) at used to get near weekly packages containing gold book goodies from Valiant and still has 9-10 long boxes containing at least two copies of every (normal) Valiant book published, I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that John's bid fell through.

No offense to John, but I started lurking over here once a week or so since I first learned in March that the characters were going to be auctioned, and while I don't know a damn thing about these new buyers, I do know that the more I learned about John and his remarkably unambitious plans for the characters that I love, the more disappointed and upset I was.

I mean was I the only one who felt that after waiting so long, these characters deserved a better fate than to seemingly become the personal plaything of some 30-something rich guy who has no real creative experience (being a mid-level marketing guy doesn't mean you know squat about the creative side of things) and was only planning on publishing a miniseries or two a year?

From what I can tell, John's been touting his X-O-ripoff Zoom Suit series for months and months and its still not out (and it sounds like there are like half a dozen guys handling the art... a sure recipe for disaster and something that's typically the sign of a "spare time" effort) -- suddenly we were to believe that this guy was going to be the person that would resurrect our cherished characters and bring them back to where they should be?

I know nothing of these new bidders, and in the end, they might be worse, and I mean nothing against John personally, but I'm glad that his Valiant era has been aborted before it even began, I just never got the feeling that, IHMO, he was going to do justice to these characters. As far as I'm concerned, its better to leave them dead as they are now than to publish two miniseries a year... argh.

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hocuspocus01 · Rai and the Future Posts Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 5

any new news on the situation? i hope it gets solved, it would be good to see those books in print again

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ManofTheAtom · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

84 11:29 am PDT, May 6 Jim Shooter Seattle WA

Hmmmm.... did Shooter really sign or did someone sign his name for him?

If the latter, that was very, very wrong.

I also noticed Andy Smith's name.

Is that Andy "X-O Manowar" Smith or is it a coincidence?

I also see that Mike Baron signed.

78 8:52 am PDT, May 6 mike baron CO
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I think architect confirmed that Andy Smith and Mike Baron have told him that they signed the petition as well as a few others who have signed as anonymous. He also said that he informed Shooter about the petition. It could really be him I guess.

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject:

That would certainly be cool.

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daydreamscomics · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject:

justin · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject:

LMAO, Sorry my man!

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UnknownTales · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:55 am Post subject:

hey, its Monday. Any updates on this? Why is John T. so quiet? I'm sure he can cough up a few hints...
Besides, if he lost, why can't he tell us why and when? What are they going to do, award it to someone else...duh, if he lost, he lost; so speak up.

Daniel Jackson · Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject:

I would imagine that anyone that has been involved with the sale wouldn’t be able talk about what happened until everything is final and done.

xounitylord · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject:

To be honest, as an original Pre-Unity Valiant fan, I was originally pretty pissed when I first heard that Acclaim had bought Valiant Comics from Voyager Communications, especially knowing that even back then, Accflaim was teedering on the brink of Bankruptcy. I kinew that they would ultimately fail, as comics were floundering, and acclaim sucked at almost anything that they touched. I miss Magnus, XO, Rai, Solar and the lot. So hopefully, who ever it is that has bought Valiant will be able to do something worth while with this amazing collection of characters that they have gotten ahold of! I just hope that it has the imensely fantastic quality of the Voyager days. If all else fails, they could get Jim Shooter to come back and get the ball rolling.
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betterthanezra · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject:

I double hear ya brother Wink

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Sect · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject:

can I make that a triple

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Yes they do.
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siren3-4 · Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject:

Hey, whatever happened to Jim Shooter ?? I attended a speech he gave to a small room at a comic convention and he came across as a really interesting guy. The speech centered around Rocky, the first movie, and how well it was put together. Cool

Anyway . . . Is he still in comics ?? I would pillage fields, rape horses and ride of on the women to get him involved in Valiant's come back !!

-Mike

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