Best Classic Image Series?

[Jersen]

Shadowhawk I, Shadowhawk II: The Secret Revealed, Wildstar, The Savage Dragon,, and Stormwatch were the best.

Wild C.A.Ts. and Cyberforce were OK but nothing special.

Of the initial Image stuff, I really dug the heck out of Shadowhawk, WildC.A.T.s, Cyberforce, Wildstar, and Trencher. I really have a soft spot for Deathblow as well, but only for Jim Lee's and Tim Sale's art and for The Cybernary that was the flip side of the first 4 issues. I really wish that could have been finished!

Shadowhawk ended up being an out-of-the-ordinary superhero story for the time, and Trencher is awesome just because it's Keith Giffen ripping Image apart in a book published by Image. Wildstar was just a cool little standalone that really begged to be expanded on.

[sanman]

Im still stunned that so many people like Spawn as much as they did

Spawn suffered from dragging stuff out and inserting random nonsense (Houdini? WTF?) but I think as a character he's more interesting than, say, Batman.

You don't like Batman? Why haven't you ever mentioned it?

I went with Savage Dragon since I felt that as far as story and art combined it has been the most consistently consistent.

I am a fan of ELs art and I thought that it was a very entertaining title from the start. Haven't read past issue 10 though...

Maxx was great, and very entertaining. Shadowhawk could have been the best, but I believe the story was short-sighted.

No love for the Bat?

[400yrs]

At the beginning? Spawn because it was the only one that I read through issue 10 or so.


Savage Dragon gets the most respect from me though even though it's not up my alley. One writer and artist for all those issues? Impressive.

[RJMooreII]

No love for the Bat?

As I've said before, I don't dislike Batman. I think he's a cool character. I just don't like him in the DCU. But get a well written story, taking place in the Gotham Knights-local verse and illustrated by someone like Olivetti I will buy it up and enjoy it. I think Batman is a really cool pulp character, I think he is a silly comic (superhero) character. Because he'd get vaporized, like, instantly.

Savage Dragon gets the most respect from me though even though it's not up my alley.

I feel kind of the same way. Savage Dragon has silly and insane stories and artwork, but unlike Liefeld it was done intentionally and with skill. It's like Macbeth, even though it isn't your favorite genre you can still realise it's well constructed.

[sanman]

At the beginning? Spawn because it was the only one that I read through issue 10 or so.

Savage Dragon gets the most respect from me though even though it's not up my alley. One writer and artist for all those issues? Impressive.

That should have been my vote.

[RJMooreII]

At the beginning? Spawn because it was the only one that I read through issue 10 or so.

Savage Dragon gets the most respect from me though even though it's not up my alley. One writer and artist for all those issues? Impressive.

That should have been my vote.

Yes, though SD is by far not my favorite Image character (that would be Mr. Majestic) in terms of consistently good output it was the best.

In terms of sheer coolness Spawn was nice, but floundered.

[sanman]

Well, I wish I had better reasons but Spawn was the only one that I read for more than the initial mini or story arc. With me I kinda wins by default.

[RJMooreII]

Well, I wish I had better reasons but Spawn was the only one that I read for more than the initial mini or story arc. With me I kinda wins by default.

I think Spawn was the best character in Image to be an anti-hero without being a generic anti-hero. His powers were cool, his design was the best of Ghostrider and Vemom, and the artwork was pretty good. I won't claim Spawn was an American classic, or anything, but I don't get people who think it was terrible.

[sanman]

Well, I wish I had better reasons but Spawn was the only one that I read for more than the initial mini or story arc. With me I kinda wins by default.

I think Spawn was the best character in Image to be an anti-hero without being a generic anti-hero. His powers were cool, his design was the best of Ghostrider and Vemom, and the artwork was pretty good. I won't claim Spawn was an American classic, or anything, but I don't get people who think it was terrible.

I liked his costume design until Todd started doing the whole bucket boot thing.

[RJMooreII]

I liked his costume design until Todd started doing the whole bucket boot thing.

Dude, I am 110% with you on that. I don't get Todd's fascination with bucket-boots. Bucket-boot Angela was even worse.

It's cool if one or two characters are like that, but at a certain point it becomes like how everyone Liefeld draws looks like Cable.

I do think the colors, the spikes, the chains, the bands of red over black, the white crests and stuff..very good color and design elements. Todd McFarlane can design the crap out of some goth superheroes.

[sanman]

I liked his costume design until Todd started doing the whole bucket boot thing.

Dude, I am 110% with you on that. I don't get Todd's fascination with bucket-boots. Bucket-boot Angela was even worse.

It's cool if one or two characters are like that, but at a certain point it becomes like how everyone Liefeld draws looks like Cable.

I do think the colors, the spikes, the chains, the bands of red over black, the white crests and stuff..very good color and design elements. Todd McFarlane can design the crap out of some goth superheroes.

Well put.

[xodacia81]

I liked his costume design until Todd started doing the whole bucket boot thing.

Dude, I am 110% with you on that. I don't get Todd's fascination with bucket-boots. Bucket-boot Angela was even worse.

It's cool if one or two characters are like that, but at a certain point it becomes like how everyone Liefeld draws looks like Cable.

There is no explaining the bucket boot thing. None. Except, maybe, that McFarlane is from Canada.(just a joke, my brothers from the Great White North)

[RJMooreII]

To be captain Buzzkill, a bucket boot actually does make sense if you're superhumanly strong. It gives you a broader weight distribution and better ground leverage.

It makes good sense for tanks (Fuji, to take an Image example) and it may make even more sense for plasma-in-a-shell beings, like Angela, since her natural mass is minimal. But it looks goofy, and I seriously doubt McFarlane thought out the physics of huge boots.

[sanman]

To be captain Buzzkill, a bucket boot actually does make sense if you're superhumanly strong. It gives you a broader weight distribution and better ground leverage.

It makes good sense for tanks (Fuji, to take an Image example) and it may make even more sense for plasma-in-a-shell beings, like Angela, since her natural mass is minimal. But it looks goofy, and I seriously doubt McFarlane thought out the physics of huge boots.

I can go with that train of thought, but why is one boot chosen over wearing a pair?

[xodacia81]

To be captain Buzzkill, a bucket boot actually does make sense if you're superhumanly strong. It gives you a broader weight distribution and better ground leverage.

It makes good sense for tanks (Fuji, to take an Image example) and it may make even more sense for plasma-in-a-shell beings, like Angela, since her natural mass is minimal. But it looks goofy, and I seriously doubt McFarlane thought out the physics of huge boots.

I can go with that train of thought, but why is one boot chosen over wearing a pair?

Right there. That right there. That is the main WTF question here.

[RJMooreII]

I can go with that train of thought, but why is one boot chosen over wearing a pair?

Because you only need one center of mass, and if that's necroplasm or holy fire (which can be as heavy as it needs to be, within limits) then you're not going to need more than one point of serial contact. One bigass, heavy platform from which to launch your inertial attacks while remaining grounded, leaving your other, powerful humanoform leg free to kick and run.

[sanman]

To be captain Buzzkill, a bucket boot actually does make sense if you're superhumanly strong. It gives you a broader weight distribution and better ground leverage.

It makes good sense for tanks (Fuji, to take an Image example) and it may make even more sense for plasma-in-a-shell beings, like Angela, since her natural mass is minimal. But it looks goofy, and I seriously doubt McFarlane thought out the physics of huge boots.

I can go with that train of thought, but why is one boot chosen over wearing a pair?

Right there. That right there. That is the main WTF question here.

[RJMooreII]

Superhumans wouldn't fight like ordinary people. That's something I'd like to get across if I ever make comics. It would look weird. There would be lots of weights, and lots of getting knocked waaaay back.

[superman-prime]

spawn myself for longevity and a heavy following for maxx if it lasted longer it would be # 1

[Draco]

Maxx !!??!!

NOooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daniel Jackson]

Savage Dragon would be my pick.

[vikingspawn]

The early half of Gen 13 run was a fun read....including the Gary Frank/Arcudi issues.

I'd give honorable run mentions for Pitt, Maxx & Wildstar too...

[leonmallett]

Savage Dragon; I started picking this up again a couple or three years ago and I am glad I did.

Honourable mentions? Stormwatch - especially the early issues and the Ellis run at the end.

Superpatriot - especially with Dave Johnson art - the man was born to draw that character.

Team 7. Loved every one of those minis.

Invincible. I only read it in the Ultimate HC's, but it is a brilliant work. Which goes to show I am no barometer of taste as i picked up issue 1 as a floppy and though 'meh'.

[sanman]

The early half of Gen 13 run was a fun read....including the Gary Frank/Arcudi issues.

I'd give honorable run mentions for Pitt, Maxx & Wildstar too...

I liked the Gen 13 mini...that, Wild Cats, Spawn vs. Batman and Deathmate are the sum of my image collection.

[OmenSpirits.com]

Savage Dragon.

Not the greatest art or story but as a whole package, it worked.

Unlike the others, Savage D didn't need someone else coming in to revamp the property to make it good.

Agreed.

And spawn was nothing but spider-man with chains.

Todd said it himsefl.