Magnus Robot Fighter: An inspiration for the Terminator?

[LordofBrooklyn]

I heard about someone claiming credit for being the true creator of both The Matrix and the Terminator and how both movies are actually part of one big epic.

Harlan Ellison won a judgement on Terminator being based on his story DEMON WITH A GLASS HAND. That made me think of Magnus Robot Fighter.

Magnus being the savior of a society under siege by robots coupled with the brilliant illustrations in the series; it seems like a prime source of inspiration for the Terminator.

Does anyone here think there is a link.

[MoonChild]

Not sure about all that but I do know that In Terminator 3 The villian uses "Nano-Technology" to control computers. Also, in BloodShot V2 there's a scene where it looks alot like the hotel scene in Terminator 1 so I think they mutually ripped eachother off there =0

[eternalwarrior]

I always thought of Magnus and the Malev war while watching the Matrix movies. Alot of similarities there.

[terreth]

Could be a link, but how self-conscious it was is something else.

[ian_house]

I'm sure they can all be traced back to something before these. Some 50s pulp sci-fi novels or things like Asimov. I think the literary history will predate a lot of the comic and film references.

Metropolis is a pretty major early film that deals with the ideas of robots and enslaving populations... another inspiration/pre-cursor.

[seymoregutz]

there are a lot of movies that touch upon this subject matter. the movie "the fifth element, touches closer to the envision of what north am would look like. from the car {taxi} that bruce willis drove, to the lower level where he drove to, to elude from the police when the co-star dropped in on him {via the roof of his car}, it gives a very good backdrop.
i had stated this in a earlier post....i had posed a question as to a movie about magnus. he is my favorite charater in the valiant lineup. in the gold key series, he fought for north am, but in the valiant series, after the steel nation was created, he found himself torn. protect a city that at the drop of a hat, would call him a traitor, or protest the free-wills and help them build their nation. we find that he is more than capable of protecting both...thus creating some pretty good stories. in other movies however, there is a fine line as to what is concidered a robot, or an android....as in the movie aliens. I robot....at least gave one robot feelings....i could go on.

[vikingspawn]

there are a lot of movies that touch upon this subject matter. the movie "the fifth element, touches closer to the envision of what north am would look like. from the car {taxi} that bruce willis drove, to the lower level where he drove to, to elude from the police when the co-star dropped in on him {via the roof of his car}, it gives a very good backdrop.

That was a classic scene from the Fifth Element. George Lucas did an almost identical thing years later in "Attack of the Clones" with the Corruscant chase scene too. It was a longer sequence but it still looked better in Fifth Element.

I remember when Grant Morrison was saying for a long time that first "Matrix" movie ripped off of the work he did in the "Invisibles" too. He even swore off working for DC/Warner ever again in the early 2000s because of it.

[ian_house]

there are a lot of movies that touch upon this subject matter. the movie "the fifth element, touches closer to the envision of what north am would look like. from the car {taxi} that bruce willis drove, to the lower level where he drove to, to elude from the police when the co-star dropped in on him {via the roof of his car}, it gives a very good backdrop.

That was a classic scene from the Fifth Element. George Lucas did an almost identical thing years later in "Attack of the Clones" with the Corruscant chase scene too. It was a longer sequence but it still looked better in Fifth Element.

I remember when Grant Morrison was saying for a long time that first "Matrix" movie ripped off of the work he did in the "Invisibles" too. He even swore off working for DC/Warner ever again in the early 2000s because of it.

Ha ha, I thought they'd all ripped off Ghost in the Shell!

It just goes to show there is nothing original in sci-fi any more!

[seymoregutz]

ain't that the truth......look at battle star galactica. don't the cylons have a resemblance to the malevs

[Drift]

there are a lot of movies that touch upon this subject matter. the movie "the fifth element, touches closer to the envision of what north am would look like. from the car {taxi} that bruce willis drove, to the lower level where he drove to, to elude from the police when the co-star dropped in on him {via the roof of his car}, it gives a very good backdrop.

That was a classic scene from the Fifth Element. George Lucas did an almost identical thing years later in "Attack of the Clones" with the Corruscant chase scene too. It was a longer sequence but it still looked better in Fifth Element.

I remember when Grant Morrison was saying for a long time that first "Matrix" movie ripped off of the work he did in the "Invisibles" too. He even swore off working for DC/Warner ever again in the early 2000s because of it.

Ha ha, I thought they'd all ripped off Ghost in the Shell!

It just goes to show there is nothing original in sci-fi any more!

Ghost in the Shell was a major influence on The Matrix. The chase scene through the market is almost panel for panel identical.

When it comes to fiction they say there are only really 3 original stories. Everything else is just a variation on a theme.

I always said that if you can think of it, it has been done. If you can't think of it, it has been done anyway.