Star Brand

[StarBrand]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to believe me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

[slym2none]

I am slowly falling out of love with comics.



-slym

[Draco]

I am slowly falling out of love with comics.



-slym

Way to bring some love to the thread dude.

[Knightt]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to belive me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

That Valiant 'feel' is what led me to collecting/reading New Universe to begin with.

[StarBrand]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to belive me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

That Valiant 'feel' is what led me to collecting/reading New Universe to begin with.

See everyone! Knightt agrees the New Universe has that Valiant 'feel'! I'm not saying Valiant didn't for the most part take things to the next level than the New U was able to achieve for various reasons, but I am surprised more Valiant fans don't investigate the New Universe and such books as Star Brand by Shooter.

[Knightt]

I think there are very open similiarities, I mean just look at the layout of the pages and even the 'quirky' dialogue.

I have not read all of the issues (I will when I am 100% complete on my collection - not many to go) but what I have seen was the cincher for me... feels, smells, looks like a practice run on Valiant.

I am NOT SURE but I even think there might be an abscence of 'action words' like BLAM and KA-BOOM which if I am not mistaken were not to be part of the Valiant universe.

[StarBrand]

I read an interview where Shooter said they essentially did the same thing at Valiant as with The New Universe.

[slym2none]

I am slowly falling out of love with comics.

Way to bring some love to the thread dude.

He asked...



-slym (wishes it weren't true)

[Draco]

I am slowly falling out of love with comics.

Way to bring some love to the thread dude.

He asked...



-slym (wishes it weren't true)

AH bollox, go buy some New Universe already will you.
You know its the key to your comic book problems.
One read and it will change everything.

[StarBrand]

I am slowly falling out of love with comics.

Way to bring some love to the thread dude.

He asked...



-slym (wishes it weren't true)

AH bollox, go buy some New Universe already will you.
You know its the key to your comic book problems.
One read and it will change everything.

Yes, particularly Star Brand 1-7 may help his relationship with comics.

[Draco]

Jokes aside though, i got the impression that Valiant fans (or most of them) were not only aware of the similarities between the two Universes, but rated the NU quite highly.

I know NU didnt work for Marvel at the time, but i really enjoyed most of what was published even though i was mocked by several other people i knew who collected a the time.

For me when i was younger comics were all about superheroes, but i tried NU due to it simply being a new Marvel thang, so it was refreshing at 15/16 to find that this NU showed me great stories about extraordinary poeople with powers, but no costumes like the books i had been reading since my early years.
In fact the whole approach was different and i was drawn to it.

The people who mocked me were simply sheep buying what they were told was hot and such (much like what irks me about todays industy, Jeph Loeb anyone) and that was fine with me, as i dont collect comics to impress people or be part of any in crowd (not likely though collecting comics in the 80's in the UK ).

I recall in the boom of the Valiant era people over here buying NU due to the connection and that it was very much a Shooter thing.

So basically what im saying is im surprised by your post dude,
i thought it was common knowledge that even though NU did not work out at the time, the concept was very very cool, just simply ahead of its time.

[Lightning Strike]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to belive me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

I thoroughly enjoyed StarBrand as well as some of the other titles like DP7.

[StarBrand]

I know there are a few New U fans on this board, but I really have the impression 95% or more of the members here have never read any New U. I hope I'm wrong, though.

[Draco]

I know there are a few New U fans on this board, but I really have the impression 95% or more of the members here have never read any New U. I hope I'm wrong, though.

95%.

Well only way forward is a poll dude.

Mr Starbrand take it away.........

[StarBrand]

I know there are a few New U fans on this board, but I really have the impression 95% or more of the members here have never read any New U. I hope I'm wrong, though.

95%.

Well only way forward is a poll dude.

Mr Starbrand take it away.........

I think a poll on the dead u thread would be skewed. (sp?) I would think a poll on the general board would be more accurate, don't you? Even then, would New U fans be more likely to respond to the poll than the average board member who has never read the New U?

[Draco]

I know there are a few New U fans on this board, but I really have the impression 95% or more of the members here have never read any New U. I hope I'm wrong, though.

95%.

Well only way forward is a poll dude.

Mr Starbrand take it away.........

I think a poll on the dead u thread would be skewed. (sp?) I would think a poll on the general board would be more accurate, don't you? Even then, would New U fans be more likely to respond to the poll than the average board member who has never read the New U?

Well it could go in the Valiant section as its directly Valiant related.

As to who votes and what they vote for?

The sooner you do it the sooner we find out.

Not too many options and let it run for 7 days to gt a broader idea.

Options would be
Read and loved the NU.
It was OK
Never read.
Read it but dont see the comparison
Read and can see similarities or somehting like that?

[Drift]

Call it Questions About Reading Habits or something equally as vague. People will look at it to find out what it is about and may just respond as they are there anyway.

I personally have not read any NU stuff but almost have a complete set so should be ready to go on it soon

[StarBrand]

Okay, the poll is up on the general board.

[StarBrand]

It has ten views and only one vote so far. I'm willing to bet the viewers who didn't vote haven't read it, but there's no way to know if I'm right about that.

[Knightt]

"See everyone! Knightt agrees the New Universe has that Valiant 'feel'!"

Adding 'my' name to something lends no credence to your hypothesis.

You have a mix here on the boards, some only read Valiant, some only read Acclaim, some read every NU book out there and some might not have ever heard of it.

The relativity between the two is unmistakable IMO but by no measure of 10 views and only one response is no way to validate or invalidate anything. Besides, it is Memorial Day Weekend... ya know, go outside, have a BBQ, watch some War Movies and stuff. i.e. low traffic

Shooter wrote many a book but that didn't make it all magical for me. I REALLY dig New Universe books as well but was totally unaware of them until this message board.

Starbrand is in my opinion (as I cannot speak for others) is quite Valiant like but so are other issues within NU. I am not really sure what point you are trying to make ??? Or if such a point requires such attention...

I would say, "Hey I think StarBrand has some VERY close similarities to Valiant comics, dontcha think ? "

One thing to be sure, isn't it a great thing when a finite set of comics reminds you of your childhood and can still bring you great pleasure from reading them ? I get that often when I read old comics myself... back to a time when my only worry was if Captain America was REALLY going to escape death at the hands of The Red Skull this time ! I am glad that you are so impassioned with a DU set of books.

That is what makes this place so special... my only bummer about the whole section is that it IS finite but that in itself is also a good thing. Nothing like starting to read a GREAT book at the start only to see it all start circling the drain towards the end of it's run.... (GASP) Jumpin' Jesus this sounds JUST LIKE the Valiant Universe

I grew up in the 70s/80s and those were great times... books from that era are magical. I even find something special in the campy books from before then.

I established the Dead Universes section to take care of 'all those other finite universes' that are out there. A place to discuss, Ultraverse, New Universe, Crossgen... and to put together accurate checklists and mostly for us to help each other complete each others collections. I don't hang up too much 'upstairs' because I am all Valianted Out. With the multitude of books (and more cropping up, monthly) to talk about and collect, I think we will be in business for a few years.

And I am glad that Starbrand is among the many DUs that we talk about. The idea that some Valiant readers have not read this book ? Eh, it's not something that will make my balls crawl up into my stomach.

[StarBrand]

"See everyone! Knightt agrees the New Universe has that Valiant 'feel'!"

Adding 'my' name to something lends no credence to your hypothesis.

That's your opinion. I happen to disagree with it, Mr. Dead Universe.

[Drift]

I think it was aimed more towards not those that don't like NU but won't try NU.

I myself have experienced frustration at people who will not even entertain the notion of reading something that isn't their book of choice.

Hell, I have met people who won't even look at back issues of a series they are reading.

Sometimes people become so wrapped up in their own little worlds that trying to get them to poke their head out and take a look at the real world is like trying to get blood from a stone.

[J-Scott-R]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to belive me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

That Valiant 'feel' is what led me to collecting/reading New Universe to begin with.

See everyone! Knightt agrees the New Universe has that Valiant 'feel'! I'm not saying Valiant didn't for the most part take things to the next level than the New U was able to achieve for various reasons, but I am surprised more Valiant fans don't investigate the New Universe and such books as Star Brand by Shooter.

Another book with that Valiant feel for me is D.P. 7, I've read through the first 12 issues now, and I think anyone who likes Harbinger will also find it an enjoyable read .

[StarBrand]

I know there are a few New U fans on this board, but I really have the impression 95% or more of the members here have never read any New U. I hope I'm wrong, though.

Judging from the responses in this thread, I suspect my saying 95% of the members here have never read the New U was probably a bit high. Cool!

[StarBrand]

Aside from the amazing feat of starting a thread with the same title as my user id, I really wanted to address a deep mystery. I believe I brought this up a year or two ago somewhere already, but don't believe I got a satisfactory answer, as no one seems to belive me on this enough to actually go out and risk the couple bucks it would take to see if my recommendation on this matter is correct. Why aren't Valiant fans interested in reading Star Brand from the New Universe, particularly the first seven issues? The first six issues were written by Shooter, and issue seven was written by Roy Thomas off a Shooter plot. I suspect this is the closest thing to Valiant-like enjoyment available this side of Valiant. I will say this; they are my favorite comics of all-time, having captured that same comic book magical feeling I used to experience as a kid.

That Valiant 'feel' is what led me to collecting/reading New Universe to begin with.

See everyone! Knightt agrees the New Universe has that Valiant 'feel'! I'm not saying Valiant didn't for the most part take things to the next level than the New U was able to achieve for various reasons, but I am surprised more Valiant fans don't investigate the New Universe and such books as Star Brand by Shooter.

Another book with that Valiant feel for me is D.P. 7, I've read through the first 12 issues now, and I think anyone who likes Harbinger will also find it an enjoyable read .

I totally agree! DP 7 was one of my all-time favorite titles. I was hoping VEI would be so successful someone at Marvel would get the bright idea of bringing back the original New Universe to compete with them.