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Just read Ronin #1 and #2 and GL Corps #1 & #2. Ughhhh. I'm burnt out on comic reading.
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400yrs wrote:Just read Ronin #1 and #2 and GL Corps #1 & #2. Ughhhh. I'm burnt out on comic reading.

Have you read Ronin before?

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400yrs wrote:Just read Ronin #1 and #2 and GL Corps #1 & #2. Ughhhh. I'm burnt out on comic reading.

Have you read Ronin before?
I don't think so, but issue #1 seemed very familiar for some reason so I'm not sure. It was a struggle to get through them so far, but I am burnt out.
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400yrs wrote:Just read Ronin #1 and #2 and GL Corps #1 & #2. Ughhhh. I'm burnt out on comic reading.

Have you read Ronin before?
I don't think so, but issue #1 seemed very familiar for some reason so I'm not sure. It was a struggle to get through them so far, but I am burnt out.

The more I think about Ronin, the less I want to re-read it. But, I almost think I should because I think I missed some stuff..... or maybe the stuff I thought I missed, just was not there.

Ronin = :?

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400yrs wrote:
Elveen wrote:
400yrs wrote:Finished up Watchmen since I'm home this weekend with 2 sick kids. I've got mixed feelings on it.

Let's hear it.

SPOILERS

It's great. When I first started it, it was pretty tough to get through the funeral issue (#2 I think). After that issue, I got really interested starting with the Doc Manhattan issue (#3?). Then I started to flip back through the book to catch things that I missed or to look up repeated panels throughout the book and whatnot. When I started doing that, it was a fun read. It's definitely a phenomenal piece of work.

However, I'm a little bummed that this book has become known or given the tag as the greatest graphic novel of all time. Although this is an outstanding work, I do not feel that it is representative of the medium.

Watchmen will appeal to comic readers due to it's legendary status and probably to people who enjoy good literature, but I don't think it's going to appeal to alot of average people who are just looking to check out their first comic ever. If I had never read a comic before and I asked someone to recommend a book to me, Watchmen would probably be the recommendation that alot of people would make. If this was the first comic I ever read, there's a pretty good chance that I would be turned off to the medium.

It's a long read. The were too many newstand scenes for me. It seemed like whenever I was really getting into the book, I'd turn the page and it would be a newstand scene along with a pirate story. I understand that the newstand scenes served to fill readers in on the socio-political environment, but there were just too many of them repeating the same things. This piece of the story was probably necessary when it was being released in single issues though.

The pirate story - There were spots where I very much enjoyed the pirate story because it really did fit and blend well with the actual story or even a few spots where it moved the story along, but there were other parts where it seemed like Moore was just babbling to forcefully juxtapose the pirate story alongside the actual story in the book. Did the pirate story really serve any point? It's neat, but that's not what I want in a comic.

There were things that were in there that I didn't really see a reason for other than to add something artsy such as Marish sketching a vagina in issue 8 or 9. I didn't get that. This book would make an interesting study for a college class as far as racism, sexism and agism. I had to do that for a film in school. I chose Driving Miss Daisy. If I had to do it on a book, it would be Watchmen.

If this was my first comic, I probably wouldn't have made it past the second issue and might never feel inclined to pick up another comic again..... especially if I read the backmatter. So that's why I'm a little disappointed that this is the book that's considered the best graphic novel of all time. It's just not representative of the medium on whole.

It will be interesting to see what makes it into the movie. I can't see how they would work the pirate story in there and actually make it good. I hope they didn't try.
The pirate story will be released, along with the "backmatter", as a dvd within a week or so of the film hitting the theatres. Then, once the film itself hits dvd, there is supposed to be a special edition with the scenes spliced back in. So, they did and they did not, add the story into the mix.

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Jay Tomio wrote:Cap Britain was IMHO the best Marvel issue this week (from the main line at least).
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Elveen wrote: The more I think about Ronin, the less I want to re-read it. But, I almost think I should because I think I missed some stuff..... or maybe the stuff I thought I missed, just was not there.

Ronin = :?
Yeah, I read the first 2 issues and put it aside for now. If you don't like something, don't re-read it, man. I wasn't really digging it, but I'll probably get back to it once I get through more enjoyable stuff. I liked the Ronin parts of the story, but the futuristic part of the story that involves Billy (is that all the rest of the story?) isn't my bag.



After getting pretty burnt out on superheros by reading a bunch of GL, I've started reading the Girls trades by the Luna Brothers. Blew through the first 2 --> awesomeness. The third trade was good, but not as good because Nancy became more of the lead character and the story kind of moved away from where I thought it would go.

Although I've heard the ending is a bummer, I liked it. The ride getting to the end was great. And it's very beautifully illustrated. Love those colors. I'll definitely check out The Sword by the Lunas when they are all traded.
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I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!

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Elveen wrote:I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!
Scion is great. And Cheung's artwork really grows on you the more you see it. :thumb:

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Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!
Scion is great. And Cheung's artwork really grows on you the more you see it. :thumb:

Have you read #26? Just a great example of the medium.

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just finished the new issue of glc

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Elveen wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!
Scion is great. And Cheung's artwork really grows on you the more you see it. :thumb:

Have you read #26? Just a great example of the medium.
I read all of them when they originally came out. They're superb. But I sold the set off (with all of my other CG sets except Negation) a few years back and really regretted it. I'm now slowly rebuilding my CG collection.

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Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!
Scion is great. And Cheung's artwork really grows on you the more you see it. :thumb:

Have you read #26? Just a great example of the medium.
I read all of them when they originally came out. They're superb. But I sold the set off (with all of my other CG sets except Negation) a few years back and really regretted it. I'm now slowly rebuilding my CG collection.

What has really helped me with my Crossgen is the one LCS that has like 5 long boxes of never circulated books. They are minty fresh.

I was able to convince 1 dude to give me the books for .50 ea. The "original" price is cover + .25. So, I think it is a great hook up. The problem is that the shop is a ways away, and I gotta do a bunch of crazy So. Cal. freeway driving :atomic: But I have gotten a big chunk of my books that way.

If I go back, I'll let you know. I've gotten books for a few dudes here, as you know :wink:

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Elveen wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
Elveen wrote:I just read Scion (from Crossgen) #26 last night. I could not be enjoying this book any more than I am.

In fact Scion #26 was one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read, period.

First, there are no thought bubbles. It is more of a short story illustrated with some of the most beautiful and "artsy" images I have ever seen in a comic book. For sure one of the most visually stimulating comics I have ever read. There are 3 to 4 pages that are just, for lack of a better word, stunning.


If you ever see Scion #26 in a cheap bin, make sure you get it. it is kind of a stand alone story, not about the main characters, but that completely fits the main story line.

One of the best single issues that I have read in a long time.

Scion #26 = (as my friend Draco says) made of win!
Scion is great. And Cheung's artwork really grows on you the more you see it. :thumb:

Have you read #26? Just a great example of the medium.
I read all of them when they originally came out. They're superb. But I sold the set off (with all of my other CG sets except Negation) a few years back and really regretted it. I'm now slowly rebuilding my CG collection.

What has really helped me with my Crossgen is the one LCS that has like 5 long boxes of never circulated books. They are minty fresh.

I was able to convince 1 dude to give me the books for .50 ea. The "original" price is cover + .25. So, I think it is a great hook up. The problem is that the shop is a ways away, and I gotta do a bunch of crazy So. Cal. freeway driving :atomic: But I have gotten a big chunk of my books that way.

If I go back, I'll let you know. I've gotten books for a few dudes here, as you know :wink:
Yeah, cool. Let me know if you decided to go back. :thumb:

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So, after reading 100 issues of Secret Invasion tie-ins, I've just now read through Hack/Slash #1-14 as well as the initial one-shots.

I'm actually pretty let down by this series. Thought it'd be a better than I feel it is. Not sure what would redeem it, in my eyes ... just seems like something's off and not really keeping my attention.

I think next I'm going to read Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin and Iron Man: Hypervelocity.

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i'm reading the third swamp thing trade. curse of ST. it's okay. love and death was disappointing honestly. the first one was pretty good. all in all i've felt let down. there are a few "really nice" moments in each book, but not what i was expecting.

read the first two sandman trades also. preludes and nocturnes was okay. i was glad when sam keith left-the art really improved after that. issues 7 and 8 were fabulous. the issue with death was even better than i remembered it. gaiman is definitely improving with each book. the one where rose falls asleep in the car and the book turns sideways was gerat. there were several moments when i began to believe i was falling asleep while reading it-it was that "dreamy".

the corinthian was sick. the noises scornch, scornch...yeeeech!

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dave wrote:i'm reading the third swamp thing trade. curse of ST. it's okay. love and death was disappointing honestly. the first one was pretty good. all in all i've felt let down. there are a few "really nice" moments in each book, but not what i was expecting.

read the first two sandman trades also. preludes and nocturnes was okay. i was glad when sam keith left-the art really improved after that. issues 7 and 8 were fabulous. the issue with death was even better than i remembered it. gaiman is definitely improving with each book. the one where rose falls asleep in the car and the book turns sideways was gerat. there were several moments when i began to believe i was falling asleep while reading it-it was that "dreamy".

the corinthian was sick. the noises scornch, scornch...yeeeech!
Yeah, the Corinthian was nasty. Sandman only gets better as the series goes along. Next volume, in fact and just wait until you read Season of Mists. Kelley Jones drew the best ever "gates of hell".

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dave wrote: i was glad when sam keith left-the art really improved after that.
AHHHH! Begone Sam Kieth Hate!

I'm a huuuuuuuuuge Sam Kieth fan. I'll let this slide 'cause I haven't read Sandman yet to see how his earlier work was there. But, assuming its in his usual style ... it's probably AWESOME! :-D



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Thor #600. Wow. This was a mammoth comic at $4.99. 42 story pages by Strazynski and Coipel, a story by Stan Lee, a Marvel Minis, reprints.... All in all over 80 story pages. Damn good comic.

I like the reprints that they are putting into some of these special books. The ones that I've read - Thor and DD the reprints have been good stories which pertain to the current run. Good stuff.

DMZ #39 - Holy *SQUEE*. This book just got really good again on the last page of this issue. Now we're going somewhere.
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Finished Scion. It was very good.

I am going to red the end of Sigil. (the last 14 or so books that I have not read yet)

I am on a BIG Crossgen kick right now.

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Just finished Fables and now I'm reading Jack of Fables :thumb:

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OUCH!

Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin and Iron Man: Hypervelocity were both pretty terrible reads. The kind of book where you can't wait to be DONE with it.

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Doorman wrote:OUCH!

Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin and Iron Man: Hypervelocity were both pretty terrible reads. The kind of book where you can't wait to be DONE with it.

Blech
Bummer.

Read some Crossgen. 8-)

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Just started reading Crossfire. It's a great book, and the text pieces in the back by Mark Evanier are almost as good as the actual story. Worth checking out and you can often find an entire run of the book for cheap.

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Elveen wrote:
Doorman wrote:OUCH!

Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin and Iron Man: Hypervelocity were both pretty terrible reads. The kind of book where you can't wait to be DONE with it.

Blech
Bummer.

Read some Crossgen. 8-)
They needed you as a fan when they were still publishing!

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