Archer & Armstrong: First Impressions

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:00 pm

MoonChild wrote:So Dark Horse Really Did hate On this release? For Sure?

The only "for sure" is that it hasn't been listed on a shipping invoice, yet.

All else is but speculation.

VEI Reborn · Post by **VEI Reborn** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:17 am

Jay Tomio wrote:Also wanted to add -

EDIT - I'd also add that VALIANT was very prompt with me in my query and very quick in reaction. We deal with just about every book publisher in the UK and U.S. and typically if one doesn't follow through (which has happened twice - and we generally have 4-6 contests active on any given day) I dead them in terms of us having interest in accepting review galleys, direct interviews, us hosting future contests or carrying exclusive excerpts of their material.

When you are juggling and picking through several dozen publishers putting out new material daily you don't have time for *SQUEE* and VALIANT didn't BS me and I look forward to more future features (if it is applicable - I don't know anything about their where their business stands)

In my limited dealing with comic book publishers I find this not to be the norm as I have found most comic publishers (big and small) have absolutely incompetent or non-existent people working in their publicity departments in terms of online marketing. It's very frustrating.

How to help the comics industry? I'd bet anything if they all hired publicists worth a damn you'd see a 10% increase in interest/sales across the board. They need to steal some of these people from book publishers who make sure it's impossible for you to not know everything they have coming out!

Awesome heads up and thank you very much!

grifter78 · Post by **grifter78** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:23 am

Jay Tomio wrote:Glad you got your book Grifter. So for any delay we got it out to you as soon as it was in our hands.

I did announce this (contest) on this boards here:

viewtopic.php?t=24271

I had forgotten the contest mentioned it was for the X-O trade but hey, I'll take this one
No it didn't:

http://www.bookspotcentral.com/2008/10/ ... ithograph/

The grandprize winner won an X-O litho and the A&A HC.

The 'physical address' is probably the home address of my business partner who sent it.

You're right, it did say that. I'll admit I just scanned through the original post when everyone started discussing it. Like I said, I hope this is a sign that everyone else will be getting theirs soon.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:25 am

grifter78 wrote: Like I said, I hope this is a sign that everyone else will be getting theirs soon.

Me too.

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:16 am

x-omatic wrote:I must confess that I find the lack of an update on the shipping AA discouraging.

I find your lack of faith disturbing...

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:51 am

All this really means is that VEI has the HC's in thier possession yet are not allowed to sell them.

But it looks like they can give them away.....

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:01 am

BloodOfHeroes wrote:
MoonChild wrote:So Dark Horse Really Did hate On this release? For Sure?
The only "for sure" is that it hasn't been listed on a shipping invoice, yet.

All else is but speculation.

through Diamond, yes?
I really wonder if anyone had ordered on Amazon if they might have got it.

Phantom · Post by **Phantom** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:04 am

maybe if they gave one to me,
I would give them cash

only if giving them cash and then getting a copy doesn't work.

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:01 am

Phantom wrote:maybe if they gave one to me,
I would give them cash

only if giving them cash and then getting a copy doesn't work.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:54 am

maybe dino could create a contest. there is a $25 entry fee for a chance to win the HC!

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:03 am

dave wrote:maybe dino could create a contest. there is a $25 entry fee for a chance to win the HC!

DCBS only charges a $12 entry fee.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:15 am

do they have copies of the book?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:18 am

dave wrote:do they have copies of the book?

Not yet. I still haven't received my copy from DCBS and haven't received any update from them. Hopefully soon.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:21 am

that's why dino has to run the contest!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:27 am

iggy101us wrote:
dave wrote:do they have copies of the book?
Not yet. I still haven't received my copy from DCBS and haven't received any update from them. Hopefully soon.

That's where I ordered mine and I haven't heard anything from them either.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:36 am

what i said originally was said rather tongue in cheek-but if they aren't allowed to release them via normal channels, but can give them out as prizes, my idea might not be so bad oafter all-better than getting stuck with a bunch of books that you can't sell. at least temporarily, it might help.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:55 pm

dave wrote:maybe dino could create a contest. there is a $25 entry fee for a chance to win the HC!

I like, how many chances to win are there?

I assume there will be skill testing questions, involved, yes?

"What was the name of Armstrong's wife?"

you know. To keep the contest relevant and all.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:58 pm

Ok it took me half a lifetime, but i finally read this whole thread.

Its weird how much specualtion can arise when the people who this site is geared up for supporting go all hush.

I dont want to add to any possible negative speculation here, but am slightly worried that Dino hasnt posted on the site since September 25th.

So one can only assume that the legal problems people here have suggested might be ongoing really are the reason.

There is no other logical reason for VEI to not have spoken up to clarify their position.

Thats well over a month which is one big gap and so therfore until i hear different i will have to believe there is a gag order preventing any further info on both the release of the A&A HDBK and the possible problems with GK and DH.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:01 pm

Zaphod wrote:
dave wrote:maybe dino could create a contest. there is a $25 entry fee for a chance to win the HC!
I like, how many chances to win are there?

I assume there will be skill testing questions, involved, yes?

"What was the name of Armstrong's wife?"

you know. To keep the contest relevant and all.

that's too hard-they need a question like:

name an ingredient in cheese toast.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:17 pm

Draco wrote:Ok it took me half a lifetime, but i finally read this whole thread.

Its weird how much specualtion can arise when the people who this site is geared up for supporting go all hush.

I dont want to add to any possible negative speculation here, but am slightly worried that Dino hasnt posted on the site since September 25th.

So one can only assume that the legal problems people here have suggested might be ongoing really are the reason.

There is no other logical reason for VEI to not have spoken up to clarify their position.

Thats well over a month which is one big gap and so therfore until i hear different i will have to believe there is a gag order preventing any further info on both the release of the A&A HDBK and the possible problems with GK and DH.

Well jedi was needling him quite a bit.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:20 pm

dave wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
dave wrote:maybe dino could create a contest. there is a $25 entry fee for a chance to win the HC!
I like, how many chances to win are there?

I assume there will be skill testing questions, involved, yes?

"What was the name of Armstrong's wife?"

you know. To keep the contest relevant and all.
that's too hard-they need a question like:

name an ingredient in cheese toast.

banana!

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:22 pm

sorry, you will be receiving a consolation prize:

the horde of completion (is that the right term?)

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:26 pm

Zaphod wrote:
Draco wrote:Ok it took me half a lifetime, but i finally read this whole thread.

Its weird how much specualtion can arise when the people who this site is geared up for supporting go all hush.

I dont want to add to any possible negative speculation here, but am slightly worried that Dino hasnt posted on the site since September 25th.

So one can only assume that the legal problems people here have suggested might be ongoing really are the reason.

There is no other logical reason for VEI to not have spoken up to clarify their position.

Thats well over a month which is one big gap and so therfore until i hear different i will have to believe there is a gag order preventing any further info on both the release of the A&A HDBK and the possible problems with GK and DH.

Well jedi was needling him quite a bit.

So one fan with an opinion send him of in a huff??

How is he going to act when the critics start?

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:32 pm

dave wrote:sorry, you will be receiving a consolation prize:

the horde of completion (is that the right term?)

Who gets the horde?

Steve Topper · Post by **Steve Topper** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:53 pm

jedimarley wrote: So one fan with an opinion send him of in a huff??

How is he going to act when the critics start?

Actually, I was thinking "one customer with an opinion . . ."

Which would be even worse, if true, because a fan does not necessarily equate to a customer. A customer brings money to the table and actively supports the publisher; a fan not so much.

IMO, a simple "We can't talk about it." would go a long way, which is all jedi was asking all along.

What do we know: Not much really. The book grifter received might be one of the "unacceptable" volumes and the changes VEI wanted have not happened yet. (PURELY SPECULATION ON MY PART)

The lack of any information or even acknowledgement of the issue is frustrating and, again in my opinion only, unprofessional.