Archer & Armstrong: First Impressions

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:47 am

slym2none wrote:Wow... okay, then.....

-slym (thought that when the VIP/VEI thing was resolved, VEI had rights to reprints of the GK3)

That may be the case. They might very well have those rights. I tend to believe that they did/do. The one thing I will say about VEI is that they have been very cautious with legal situations.

People are speculating.

It could be legal. It could be financial. It could be a deal in the works. It could be several other options.

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:09 am

Zero wrote:People are speculating. It could be legal. It could be financial. It could be a deal in the works. It could be several other options.

Yup (myself included).

turborip · Post by **turborip** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:12 am

slym2none wrote:If this latest speculation is anywhere near the truth, then why was the Harbinger HC ever released? It has the same red pajama-wearing guy in it, too...

-slym

When did DH acquire the GK3 rights compared to the X-O HC also? Doesn't Solar make a one-page app. in that also?

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:18 am

could be that they would like to cash in on some of the success.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:02 pm

turborip wrote:
slym2none wrote:If this latest speculation is anywhere near the truth, then why was the Harbinger HC ever released? It has the same red pajama-wearing guy in it, too...

-slym
When did DH acquire the GK3 rights compared to the X-O HC also? Doesn't Solar make a one-page app. in that also?

Well, they (DH) already had the reprint rights to those characters, as evidenced by the HC's they were/are selling. I'm guessing the rights to print NEW material came up in a final way sometime between the X-O and the A&A HC's....

This is only an educated guess, however. Somewhere along the lines here, I missed where it was initially said that DH was going to start printing new material using these characters.

-slym

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:23 pm

slym2none wrote:This is only an educated guess, however. Somewhere along the lines here, I missed where it was initially said that DH was going to start printing new material using these characters.

It was an offhand remark by some Dark Horse higher-up at San Diego of this year. Newsarama released an article about it.

Licensing can be funny stuff. IDW now has the reprint rights to the old Marvel GI Joe stuff as part of their recent license. The deal between Western Media and Dark Horse could have similar provisions.

From what I understand of dirivative work based on a licensed property, the original owner has to give permission to the person creating the dirivative work to create it. I would imagine this applies to reprint rights as well. Who knows?

If I were Dark Horse, and was planning to release new Magnus, Solar, and Turok material, I wouldn't want VEI printing material with those characters in it. Brand purity and all that.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:54 am

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13527.html

We have a huge announcement that I’ll tell you about later, very shortly. It will be a gigantic project working with another company. Obviously, that tidbit for you, to watch the skies...

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:27 am

jedimarley wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13527.html

We have a huge announcement that I’ll tell you about later, very shortly. It will be a gigantic project working with another company. Obviously, that tidbit for you, to watch the skies...

Superman?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:49 am

etos45 wrote:
jedimarley wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13527.html

We have a huge announcement that I’ll tell you about later, very shortly. It will be a gigantic project working with another company. Obviously, that tidbit for you, to watch the skies...
Superman?

Pretty vague announcement, could be anything.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:14 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
etos45 wrote:
jedimarley wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13527.html

We have a huge announcement that I’ll tell you about later, very shortly. It will be a gigantic project working with another company. Obviously, that tidbit for you, to watch the skies...
Superman?
Pretty vague announcement, could be anything.

Probably working with VIP.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:55 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
etos45 wrote:
jedimarley wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13527.html

We have a huge announcement that I’ll tell you about later, very shortly. It will be a gigantic project working with another company. Obviously, that tidbit for you, to watch the skies...
Superman?
Pretty vague announcement, could be anything.
Probably working with VIP.

You hush! You hush up right now!!!

-slym

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:45 pm

I must confess that I find the lack of an update on the shipping AA discouraging.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:11 pm

x-omatic wrote:I must confess that I find the lack of an update on the shipping AA discouraging.

Your Not the only one....

-Brian

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:28 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
x-omatic wrote:I must confess that I find the lack of an update on the shipping AA discouraging.
Your Not the only one....

-Brian

Indeed

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:00 pm

I just find it unprofessional and offputting.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:12 pm

I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:36 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.

Thats what we HAVE been doing for enough time. The amount of time this has gone on Others should start asking the questions to VEI. Like Newsarama and other comic news sites. Every time something Valiant related came up on Newsarama it brought a nice bump to there site and was quite popular...

I'm just saying it's about time someone Else besides us begin questioning this release or lack there of.

-Brian

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:42 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.
Thats what we HAVE been doing for enough time. The amount oftime this has gone on Others should start asking the questions to VEI. Like Newsarama and other comic news sites. Everytime something Valiant related came up on Newsarama it brought a nice bump to there site and was quite popular...

I'm just saying it's about time someone Else besides us begins questioning this release or lack there of.

-Brian

It is surprising that it's not being talked about elsewhere.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:11 pm

UPDATE!

it's what you've all been waiting to hear:

it's not on the 11/12 invoice either...

(you guys are going to hate me for posting the bad news every week aren't you?)

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:28 am

I am almost ready to remove this as a future purchase. Not that it will ever be coming out anyways

.

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:52 am

daydreamscomics wrote: (you guys are going to hate me for posting the bad news every week aren't you?)

I'm thinking I'm going to have to click that red frowny face next to your name.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:09 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.
Thats what we HAVE been doing for enough time. The amount oftime this has gone on Others should start asking the questions to VEI. Like Newsarama and other comic news sites. Everytime something Valiant related came up on Newsarama it brought a nice bump to there site and was quite popular...

I'm just saying it's about time someone Else besides us begins questioning this release or lack there of.

-Brian
It is surprising that it's not being talked about elsewhere.

Goes to show you the lack of interest outside this site when it comes to VEI.

hellboydce · Post by **hellboydce** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:50 am

jedimarley wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.
Thats what we HAVE been doing for enough time. The amount oftime this has gone on Others should start asking the questions to VEI. Like Newsarama and other comic news sites. Everytime something Valiant related came up on Newsarama it brought a nice bump to there site and was quite popular...

I'm just saying it's about time someone Else besides us begins questioning this release or lack there of.

-Brian
It is surprising that it's not being talked about elsewhere.
Goes to show you the lack of interest outside this site when it comes to VEI.

i think that is very true, and the problem, nobody really has any interest in this book (outside of this site) and i don't ever see it coming

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:51 am

hellboydce wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.
Thats what we HAVE been doing for enough time. The amount oftime this has gone on Others should start asking the questions to VEI. Like Newsarama and other comic news sites. Everytime something Valiant related came up on Newsarama it brought a nice bump to there site and was quite popular...

I'm just saying it's about time someone Else besides us begins questioning this release or lack there of.

-Brian
It is surprising that it's not being talked about elsewhere.
Goes to show you the lack of interest outside this site when it comes to VEI.
i think that is very true, and the problem, nobody really has any interest in this book (outside of this site) and i don't ever see it coming

I think there is interest other than just the members of this board. Valiant didn't get to be as huge as it used to be with just us buying those books. Whether or not VEI can recapture that again remains to be seen though.

If what we have been speculating is true, it's not their fault that they can't release the A&A book now. They have certainly done a good job so far with the two hardcovers that have been released.

dave · Post by **dave** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:53 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
hellboydce wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:I'm sure their goal is to get that book into our hands and not leave the fans hanging.

Obviously something has happened and all we can do is speculate as to what the problem is.

-Brian
It is surprising that it's not being talked about elsewhere.
Goes to show you the lack of interest outside this site when it comes to VEI.
it's not their fault that they can't release the A&A book now. They have certainly done a good job so far with the two hardcovers that have been released.

with absolutely ZERO knowledge of what is truly going on, i think that it is safe to say that they can't release it right now-dino said the book was done and ready to ship-so if they could-they would-they gain nothing, and lose plenty by not shipping it-which seems to indicate that some "outside force" is preventing them-which again i would hazard to guess is not their fault as dj just stated.