Dr. Mirage VVSS

caxiotis · Post by **caxiotis** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:32 pm

So I remember that someone had a Dr. Mirage VVSS COA a while back and there was speculation about whether any were actually made. i just found this in my Valiant Marketing Plan '93 book. Thought it was interesting that they have the Dr. Mirage VVSS as a planned promotion. Was anything more found out about this? Also, could there be any X-O or Secret Weapons COA's hanging around somewhere?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:42 pm

Possible I suppose, but I rather doubt it.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:07 am

I think we have asked Bernard this at one point...

He has said that he signed a stack (or 2) of them for what he thought was for a VVSS...nothing really happened from it after. Besides the few certificates that have surfaced thats about all we know at this point.

My question was why only have Bernard sign them? Ken Branch would have been a nice addition to that project. Even Bob Layton not many "Official" VVSS only had 1 signature...in fact I don't think any had just one.

-Brian

muzzsucker · Post by **muzzsucker** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:26 am

Do we know for certain that no one else signed them? Its possible that others signed the books at a later time or at least were intended to sign them later.

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:46 am

So far as I know only the certificate have been found.

Someone might need to correct me on this, but I think there's been no more then three of the certs come to light.

1 or maybe 2 partials (meaning they were either cut in half or damned close to it), and 1 or maybe 2 whole.

I know there's at least one whole certificate found, because I'm the lucky bastich that found it in the back of a Turok #1 VVSS.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:43 am

cinlach@aol.com wrote:So far as I know only the certificate have been found.

Someone might need to correct me on this, but I think there's been no more then three of the certs come to light.

1 or maybe 2 partials (meaning they were either cut in half or damned close to it), and 1 or maybe 2 whole.

I know there's at least one whole certificate found, because I'm the lucky bastich that found it in the back of a Turok #1 VVSS.

I have a whole COA that I traded for as well.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:45 am

muzzsucker wrote:Do we know for certain that no one else signed them? Its possible that others signed the books at a later time or at least were intended to sign them later.

I think he's referring to the second page where they only have 1 listed signature (BC's) with the SLODM #1.

*SQUEE* · Post by ***SQUEE*** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:41 am

Zero wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:So far as I know only the certificate have been found.

Someone might need to correct me on this, but I think there's been no more then three of the certs come to light.

1 or maybe 2 partials (meaning they were either cut in half or damned close to it), and 1 or maybe 2 whole.

I know there's at least one whole certificate found, because I'm the lucky bastich that found it in the back of a Turok #1 VVSS.

I have a whole COA that I traded for as well.

Still enjoying it?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:57 am

very sweet item

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:05 am

Zero wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:So far as I know only the certificate have been found.

Someone might need to correct me on this, but I think there's been no more then three of the certs come to light.

1 or maybe 2 partials (meaning they were either cut in half or damned close to it), and 1 or maybe 2 whole.

I know there's at least one whole certificate found, because I'm the lucky bastich that found it in the back of a Turok #1 VVSS.

I have a whole COA that I traded for as well.

So that's 2 complete ones known...awesome!

I didn't know for sure that another had popped up.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:11 pm

*SQUEE* wrote:
Zero wrote:
cinlach@aol.com wrote:So far as I know only the certificate have been found.

Someone might need to correct me on this, but I think there's been no more then three of the certs come to light.

1 or maybe 2 partials (meaning they were either cut in half or damned close to it), and 1 or maybe 2 whole.

I know there's at least one whole certificate found, because I'm the lucky bastich that found it in the back of a Turok #1 VVSS.

I have a whole COA that I traded for as well.

Still enjoying it?

Very much so! Thanks for making it available!

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:56 pm

I picked up a copy of The Visitor signed by B.Chang in a VVSS holder back in May. I am not saying it was meant to be VVSS, but it's kinda cool. I will post a scan later.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:44 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:I picked up a copy of The Visitor signed by B.Chang in a VVSS holder back in May. I am not saying it was meant to be VVSS, but it's kinda cool. I will post a scan later.

I've bought quite a few non V.V.S.S. books over the years that came in the Valiant mylar. It's a shame the mylar doesn't hold up very well.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:58 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:I picked up a copy of The Visitor signed by B.Chang in a VVSS holder back in May. I am not saying it was meant to be VVSS, but it's kinda cool. I will post a scan later.
I've bought quite a few non V.V.S.S. books over the years that came in the Valiant mylar. It's a shame the mylar doesn't hold up very well.

It's kinda of ironic that these "mylars" don't hold up. I remember back in the 90's how these were meant to save your comics for eternity.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:09 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:I picked up a copy of The Visitor signed by B.Chang in a VVSS holder back in May. I am not saying it was meant to be VVSS, but it's kinda cool. I will post a scan later.
I've bought quite a few non V.V.S.S. books over the years that came in the Valiant mylar. It's a shame the mylar doesn't hold up very well.
It's kinda of ironic that these "mylars" don't hold up. I remember back in the 90's how these were meant to save your comics for eternity.

Hahaha....so much for that idea.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:40 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:I picked up a copy of The Visitor signed by B.Chang in a VVSS holder back in May. I am not saying it was meant to be VVSS, but it's kinda cool. I will post a scan later.
I've bought quite a few non V.V.S.S. books over the years that came in the Valiant mylar. It's a shame the mylar doesn't hold up very well.
It's kinda of ironic that these "mylars" don't hold up. I remember back in the 90's how these were meant to save your comics for eternity.

Well, if they were REAL Mylar, it would be different.

And is there anyone else who had to go through their collection and change out over 200 of those things because (luckily) they started to chip and crack (I used to use Ultra-Pro brand) and afterward, find out that most cases involved the covers sticking to the inside of the "page?"

-slym

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:36 pm

Secret Weapons 1 Gold?

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:37 pm

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:18 am

Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:05 am

iggy101us wrote:Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).

What made you go back and find this man?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:07 am

ian_house wrote:
iggy101us wrote:Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).
What made you go back and find this man?

Comicsyte's thread about the 1993 marketing plans.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:10 am

iggy101us wrote:
ian_house wrote:
iggy101us wrote:Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).
What made you go back and find this man?
Comicsyte's thread about the 1993 marketing plans.

I just came back to delete my question after seeing that...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:19 am

iggy101us wrote:Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).

Should definitely be easy enough to find large quantities if someone wanted to make a project with them.

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:23 pm

iggy101us wrote:Maybe we can do projects for the ones that never got made (X-O #0, Secret Weapons #1, Dr Mirage #1).

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:28 pm

I'm in!