Zoom Suit Collection

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:11 pm

Here and there I've seen discussion pop up about the Zoom Suit books and how some people would like to complete their collections of these. I don't have a complete collection myself, and after seeing much discussion, I thought I'd dust off the books from the basement. The thing about Zoom Suit is that there were more variants than you could easily keep track of. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure of what variants are out there. Some of these books are actually pretty scarce too (i.e., more or less any copy of issue 4, the Gene Colan Armored Legends cover #1, the black and white covers, the Team Zoom Edition Kiss Cover, or the signed and cert'd Valiantfans.com Sears cover to name a few).

It strikes me as odd that any of these books would be truly scarce considering the marketing drive behind them, but we are talking about a series that sold in the 20,000 mark anyway, so some of the lower printed book are bound to have Valiant style numbers behind them. Then of course there are the DVD's, the posters, the myriad of variant card sets, bla, bla, bla.

Myself or a mod can always edit this thread, but I figured I'd start a list here, because I'm not sure if we have a central place to compile a list or not (there was the half-@$$ed list from the other thread, but nothing ever came of that).

Issue 1
Simon Bane Cover, IM #118 swipe (Bane w. coat & glasses variant)
Simon Bane Cover, IM #118 swipe (shirt & no sunglasses variant)
Zoom & Girlfriend Cover, X-O Manowar swipe (Armored Legends Collection)
Zoom & Girlfriend Cover, X-O Manowar swipe (Valiantfans.com COA)
Zoom Suit Colan Cover, IM #1 swipe
Zoom Suit Starlin Cover, IM #100 swipe (scarce)
Kid Cover, Suspended Animation Edition (armor in briefcase on ground)
Zoom rescuing kids cover (Film Festival Metal Edition)
Zoom rescuing kids cover (standard Edition with contest serial # on cover)
The Kiss cover (standad Edition with contest serial # on cover)
The Kiss cover (Film Festival Edition, has creator credits bottom center)
The Kiss cover (Team Zoom Edition - scarce)

Issue 2
Bart Sears Bane Strangling Zoom Cover (standard)
Bart Sears Bane Strangling Zoom cover (sketch lmtd. 1500)
Keron Grant Zoom Strangling Bane Cover (glow)
Bob Layton Iron Man #126 swipe (zoom in armor)
Iron Man #126 swipe (zoom as kid, no armor)
Fantastic Realm cover (Zoom carrying girl)

Issue 3
Kid and Zoom glove (suspended animation edition)

Issue 4

as we figure out what other variants there were, we can add them to the list.

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:33 pm

This is an extract from my comic catalogue software (ComicBase). From what I can piece together CB has 14 issues for #1, 5 for number 2 (don't ask where the entry for 2/D went I have no idea so it may be 6 as per the web site http://superverse.com/) and 6 issues for both #3 and #4

1A, B and C are Trent's Zoom Suit Validated Signature Series.

Hope this helps

**EDIT** UPDATED all descriptions, added 1 O-Q, the SDCC Film Edition gold wreath and Cover Number version of 1A-C. Does not include any of the "ZOOM SUIT #1 “PROTOTYPE”...

1/A Saturday Evening Post (“The Kiss”) Bill Tucci Cover; Regular cover
1/B I Can Fly/Fire Rescue cover - Billy Dallas Patton cover; Regular cover
1/C Simon Bane Falling - Bob Layton cover; Regular cover
1/D Armored Legends Bob Layton cover; 1 in 10 variant
1/E Armored Legends Bart Sears cover; 1 in 20 variant
1/F Armored Legends Gene Colan cover; 1 in 25 variant
1/G Armored Legends Jim Starlin cover; 1 in 50 variant
1/H Team Zoom Edition/ Film Festival Edition - Saturday Evening Post (“The Kiss”) Bill Tucci Cover
1/I “MOSH" t-shirt cover
1/J Assassination Comics Edition - Bart Sears cover; ValiantFans.Com Exclusive
1/K Assassination Comics Edition - Bob Layton sketch cover
1/L Assassination Comics Edition - Billy Tucci sketch cover
1/M Suspense cover
1/N Suspended Animation Edition/Film Edition - “MOSH" t-shirt cover; Cardstock cover
1/O Saturday Evening Post (“The Kiss”) Bill Tucci Cover; SDCC Film Edition gold wreath and Cover Number (white box) lower left
1/P I Can Fly/Fire Rescue cover - Billy Dallas Patton cover; SDCC Film Edition gold wreath and Cover Number (white box) lower left
1/Q The Suit Doesn't Fit! (aka Bane Falling), Bob Layton cover; SDCC Film Edition gold wreath and Cover Number (white box) lower left

2/A Simon Bane choking Zoom Bart Sears cover; GLOW IN THE DARK
2/B Zoom chocking Simon Bane cover "B" by KERON GRANT; GLOW IN THE DARK
2/C Armored Legend Edition RRP Variant ZOOM cover by Bob Layton; 1 in 10 variant
2/D Suspended Animation Edition/Myles in a classic pose cover; GLOW IN THE DARK; Cover artwork taken directly from the award winning animated short.
2/E Limited Edition SKETCH EDITION Variant! cover by Bart Sears; Contains exclusive never before seen montage of artwork on the backcover
2/F FantasticRealm.com LIMITED EDITION Variant Cover by BILLY TUCCI

3/A Cover "A" by Billy Tucci (Zoom and Brittany flying over New York City)
3/B Zoom in Flight Cover "B" by Billy Dallas Patton
3/C Armored Legend Edition RRP 1-25 Cover Variant (homage to Action Comics #1)
3/D Suspended Animation" Edition; Cover artwork taken directly from the award winning animated short features Myles putting on the Zoom Suit for the very first time
3/E METAL SKETCH EDITION (Armored Legends Edition) by Bart Sears
3/F Wizard World Chicago Exclusive METAL SKETCH EDITION; cover by BILLY TUCCI (Zoom and Brittany flying over New York City); Limited to 1,000 copies

4/A Cover "A" by Bob Layton (Simon Bane with head of an X-80 Hunter Killer robot)
4/B Cover "B" by Billy Dallas Patton (Brittany ripping open Myles shirt)
4/C Armored Legend Edition RRP 1/25 Variant Cover by Bob Layton (Zoom fighting X-80 Hunter Killer Robot)
4/D Suspended Animation Edition (X-80 Hunter Killer Robot)
4/E Metal Sketch Edition cover by Billy Dallas Patton (Brittany ripping open Myles shirt)
4/F Metal Sketch Edition cover by Bob Layton (Cover A - Simon Bane with head of an X-80 Hunter Killer robot); Limited to 1,000 copies

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:24 am

1/A Bill Tucci Cover—Saturday Evening Post (“The Kiss”)
1/B Fire Rescue cover; Billy Dallas Patton cover—I Can Fly
1/C Bob Layton cover—Bane Fall
1/D Armored Legends Bob Layton cover; 1st appearance of 10 variant; 1 in 10 variant
1/E Armored Legends Bart Sears cover; 1st appearance of 20 variant; 1 in 20 variant
1/F Armored Legends Gene Colan cover; 1st appearance of 25 variant; 1 in 25 variant
1/G Armored Legends Jim Starlin cover; 1st appearance of 50 variant; 1 in 50 variant
1/H Team Zoom Edition—Film Festival Edition
1/I Boy with“Mosh" t-shirt on cover
1/J Team Zoom Edition—Assassination Comics edition of Bart Sears cover
1/K Bob Layton Assassination comics sketch variant
1/L Billy Tucci Assassination Comics sketch variant
1/M Suspense cover
1/N Suspended Animation Edition; Cardstock cover

some of these descriptions aren't clear. 1/A through 1/G are fine. 1/H are two separate books, one is the Team Zoom Edition and the other is the Film Festival edition. There is also a Film Festival Metal Edition. 1/N is also OK. No idea what any of these are supposed to be:

1/I Boy with“Mosh" t-shirt on cover
1/J Team Zoom Edition—Assassination Comics edition of Bart Sears cover
1/K Bob Layton Assassination comics sketch variant
1/L Billy Tucci Assassination Comics sketch variant
1/M Suspense cover

I've never seen any sketch variants for issue #1 of Zoom Suit.

I'm thinking I/J is supposed to be the Valiantfans edition John did, I don't recall if it said Team Zoom, but it did have the Sears cover rip from X-O #14.

2/A Bart Sears cover
2/B Keron Grant Cover
2/C Bob Layton cover (1 in 10 variant, Armored Legends)
2/E Bart Sears sketch Cover
2/F Billy Tucci Cover (FantasticRealm.com LIMITED EDITION)
ADD: "Suspended Animation" Edition

3/A Bill Tucci Cover The Date
3/B Billy Dallas Patton Cover Flight
3/C Bart Sears Cover Armored Legend 1 in 25
3/D Suspended Animation
3/E Bart Sears: Metal Sketch Edition
3/F Bill Tucci Cover Metal Sketch Edition (Wizard World Chicago)

4/A “Simon Triumphant" Bob Layton cover
4/B Billy Dallas Patton “Alter Ego” cover
4/C Bob Layton “Armored Legend" cover 1 in 25
4/D “Suspended Animation" cover
4/E Metal Sketch Edition cover by Billy Dallas Patton
4/F Metal Sketch Edition cover by Bob Layton; Limited to 1,000 copies

These were basically correct, I just added a note or two.

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:56 am

Thanks Bro J

FYI
All cover can be seen on Atomic Avenue if that helps

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:03 pm

SnotDrip wrote:Thanks Bro J

FYI
All cover can be seen on Atomic Avenue if that helps

Holy crap!!!

I rescind my corrections (at least some of them) on the Zoom Suit #1 variants. You mean these books actually exist? There are even MORE Zoom Suit variants than we thought?

Ok, looking at that page, let's see what we've got:

the picture they have for 1/H is the Team Zoom Edition.

1/J does look like the cover for the Valiantfans edition, not sure if anything was added to the vf edition cover as I don't have it in front of me. I, K, L, and M I have never seen, but there they are. Does anyone have any of these books? Atomic Avenue has NONE of the unknown books in stock.

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:09 pm

I'm pretty confident that the only thing that makes the ValiantFans book any different is a signature and most importantly the inclusion of the numbered COA.

Also that link is missing one of The Kiss covers variants. JT had a very limited set of variants made for friends and family that was very limited. I'm pretty sure I've got a copy and going out on a limb, I may remember him telling me that there are only about 100 of those printed. I could be misremembering that number though.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:30 pm

IMJ wrote:I'm pretty confident that the only thing that makes the ValiantFans book any different is a signature and most importantly the inclusion of the numbered COA.

Also that link is missing one of The Kiss covers variants. JT had a very limited set of variants made for friends and family that was very limited. I'm pretty sure I've got a copy and going out on a limb, I may remember him telling me that there are only about 100 of those printed. I could be misremembering that number though.

Yep, you're correct, it's the "Film Festival" edition, has the same art as the Team Zoom edition. Only 100 of them is what I had heard, too. Some really cool board member here sent me one for free and it is the ZS variant I am most happy to own (next to the Valiantfans edition).

greg · Post by **greg** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:26 pm

Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:01 am

greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

I'm curious, which are those? variants, misprints, the "First Day of issue" ones, the "Prototype" ones, something else entirely?

WAAAAAAAAAYYYY too many variants with these books.

I wish we could get JT back here to let us know what all is out there. I recently exchanged e-mail with him, but I don't know if I kept his address.

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:51 am

greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

which ones are the "regular" editions and from whose list

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:52 am

IMJ wrote:I'm pretty confident that the only thing that makes the ValiantFans book any different is a signature and most importantly the inclusion of the numbered COA.

Also that link is missing one of The Kiss covers variants. JT had a very limited set of variants made for friends and family that was very limited. I'm pretty sure I've got a copy and going out on a limb, I may remember him telling me that there are only about 100 of those printed. I could be misremembering that number though.

do you have a pic for KISS cover variant

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:57 am

Brother J wrote:
SnotDrip wrote:Thanks Bro J

FYI
All cover can be seen on Atomic Avenue if that helps
Holy crap!!!

I rescind my corrections (at least some of them) on the Zoom Suit #1 variants. You mean these books actually exist? There are even MORE Zoom Suit variants than we thought?

Ok, looking at that page, let's see what we've got:

the picture they have for 1/H is the Team Zoom Edition.

1/J does look like the cover for the Valiantfans edition, not sure if anything was added to the vf edition cover as I don't have it in front of me. I, K, L, and M I have never seen, but there they are. Does anyone have any of these books? Atomic Avenue has NONE of the unknown books in stock.

Holy Crapolas is correct...

I do not have any other then Trent's Project (whichever covers they are

)

<Paging Mr T>

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:10 am

Brother J wrote:
greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

I'm curious, which are those? variants, misprints, the "First Day of issue" ones, the "Prototype" ones, something else entirely?

They're not misprints... I don't believe they're variants either.

They're the ones that comic shops actually ordered and received as "regular editions"...
except, they weren't numbered.

My guess is that they're "Prototype" ones... the ones from the printer
when everything was being checked except for (before) the numbering system.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:15 am

greg wrote:
Brother J wrote:
greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

I'm curious, which are those? variants, misprints, the "First Day of issue" ones, the "Prototype" ones, something else entirely?
They're not misprints... I don't believe they're variants either.

They're the ones that comic shops actually ordered and received as "regular editions"...
except, they weren't numbered.

My guess is that they're "Prototype" ones... the ones from the printer
when everything was being checked except for (before) the numbering system.

Could be the other way around with the numbers.

They could be at the later end of the print run after enough books were printed to satisfy the serial promotion.

IMJ · Post by **IMJ** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Brother J wrote:I wish we could get JT back here to let us know what all is out there. I recently exchanged e-mail with him, but I don't know if I kept his address.

Believe it or not he says he doesn't know how many variants in total were produced. I'm stone serious.

SnotDrip wrote:do you have a pic for KISS cover variant

Standard Edition w. Serial #

Team Zoom Edition Limited to 5,000 Copies

Film Festival Edition Limited to approx. 100

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:47 pm

Does anybody have a ZS #1-3 WITHOUT the Film Festival Seal (SDCC)/serial number (in other words covers that are "plain"). If so then add another 3 to the total list of covers (the #1-3 I have are all the Film Festival/serial number editions)

I am getting the impression that the are just way to many covers...

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:49 pm

IMJ wrote:
Brother J wrote:I wish we could get JT back here to let us know what all is out there. I recently exchanged e-mail with him, but I don't know if I kept his address.
Believe it or not he says he doesn't know how many variants in total were produced. I'm stone serious.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:28 pm

SnotDrip wrote:
greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

which ones are the "regular" editions and from whose list

I don't know if this will help you, but...

In your list, the regular versions you could buy in the store at cover price were 1/A, 1/B, and 1/C, 2/A and 2/B, 3/A and 3/B and 4/A and 4/B.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:37 pm

I'm starting to wonder where Atomic Avenue got some of their scans and if the pictures they have are of books that really exist.

They also have two variations of the "Flight" cover of Zoom Suit #3 by Patton but they don't list the regular Tucci version.

Anyone familiar with Atomic Avenue know where they get their pictures from?

SnotDrip · Post by **SnotDrip** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:40 pm

Brother J wrote:I'm starting to wonder where Atomic Avenue got some of their scans and if the pictures they have are of books that really exist.

They also have two variations of the "Flight" cover of Zoom Suit #3 by Patton but they don't list the regular Tucci version.

Anyone familiar with Atomic Avenue know where they get their pictures from?

AtomicAvenue (AA) is populated by COMICBASE (CB), the comic cataloging software, by Human Computing. Both systems are integrated so that a COMICBASE user can, with a click of a button, begin selling online (via AtomicAvenue).
So in essence if one is incorrect (Atomic for instance) then the other is as well.

I could be mistaken but they get one of each comic when it comes out. They scan it, catalogue it (via indicia info) and propogate weekly updates to all CB users (and at the same time populate AA.

The CB User Community also has the capacity to upload and submit changes to pretty much any cataloguing field from writer/artists to storyline, circulation etc.

Is it possible that covers have been incorrectly catalogued...yup happens all the time (they post corrections on their forum) which is why everything is usually verified with cover scans and indicia checks prior to acceptance by Human Computing staff.

I had difficulty cataloguing my 3 copies of ZSVSS (1-3 with the SDCC Film Festival) as they did not appear and I could find no online catalogue of ALL covers (including at GCD).

If we can sort all the covers out (with scans) I can submit them via my software but they are extremely slow and backlogged at the moment (plus all their servers have been down for the past week or so)

Hope this helps

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:54 pm

jedimarley wrote:
greg wrote:
Brother J wrote:
greg wrote:Each of the three #1 "regular editions" exist without the serial numbers.

I'm curious, which are those? variants, misprints, the "First Day of issue" ones, the "Prototype" ones, something else entirely?
They're not misprints... I don't believe they're variants either.

They're the ones that comic shops actually ordered and received as "regular editions"...
except, they weren't numbered.

My guess is that they're "Prototype" ones... the ones from the printer
when everything was being checked except for (before) the numbering system.
Could be the other way around with the numbers.

They could be at the later end of the print run after enough books were printed to satisfy the serial promotion.

Could be... Taddeo said they were "first off the press", but who knows.

He also said that the "first 100 copies" promo for the serial numbers
are actually the last 100 copies because the printer actually printed
them in reverse order... but he had already dreamed up the
"first 100" numbered thing and didn't figure anyone would care.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:12 pm

Then people wonder why I hate alternate covers so much...

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:18 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:Then people wonder why I hate alternate covers so much...

Valiant was literally one inch from being owned by Taddeo.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:08 am

Knightt's auction thread just brought this to my attention, Superverse did so many variants, they even did a variant DVD cover!!

Here's the one Knightt is auctioning:

and here's mine:

Not a major difference, but you can tell the background colors are darker on mine, and Knightt's has the "This is awesome" word balloon while mine doesn't.

I just find it funny that I have just found yet ANOTHER Zoom Suit variant.

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:35 am

Don't forget the other two (2) variant sets (thats right - sets) for issue #1.

There was a prototype set of the three (3) regular covers. This was limited to between 25 and 100 (I can't remember which) and in lieu of a serial number had a green alien head stamp.

There was also the first 100 sets three (3) regular cover subset where the serial number was 111001 thru 111100, 222001 thru 222100, and 333001 thru 333100. These came with a COA stating what they were.

Also there were a few prototype glow in the dark covers for issue #1 limited to 1 each. One was the Starlin cover with a 2"x2" patch of glow in the dark material on it.

Oh and there was also a production binder for issues #1 through 4 limited to 1.