What variant themes did Valiant pioneer? #0's?

Escaflown4 · Post by **Escaflown4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:29 am

What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?

Smashey · Post by **Smashey** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:34 am

They may have not actually pioneered any of the said variants in this topic. But they definately were a major factor making the variants as widespread as they are today.

Rai 0, maybe it wasnt the first #0, but it sure as hell is the #0 that stands out in my mind as the granddaddy of all #0's.

JLThorpe · Post by **JLThorpe** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:37 am

Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?

Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:39 am

JLThorpe wrote:
Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?
Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?

We shouldn't speak of Valiant Vision ever again.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:33 pm

TKWill wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?
Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?
We shouldn't speak of Valiant Vision ever again.

The "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named" makes my eyes hurt.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:43 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?
Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?
We shouldn't speak of Valiant Vision ever again.
The "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named" makes my eyes hurt.

It was still pretty cool tho

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:54 pm

Dr. Solar wrote: "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named"

so it is written, so it shall be.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:15 pm

MoonChild wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?
Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?
We shouldn't speak of Valiant Vision ever again.
The "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named" makes my eyes hurt.
It was still pretty cool tho

Cool in a headache sort of way.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:16 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?
Weren't there 3D comics in the 40s/50s?
We shouldn't speak of Valiant Vision ever again.
The "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named" makes my eyes hurt.

I have to agree . . I never got into the CBVETTSNBN . . and I hated that everything that was presented in CBVETTSNBN had a huge logo that said CBVETTSNBN . . . it just ruined the image in my opinion . . .

I might have liked CBVETTSNBN if not for that fact . . .

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:17 pm

TKWill wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named"
so it is written, so it shall be.

CBVETTSNBN for short, edit: as Siren posted as I was writing this post.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:17 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named"
so it is written, so it shall be.
CBVETTSNBN for short.

You're a slow *SQUEE* . . .

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:18 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named"
so it is written, so it shall be.
CBVETTSNBN for short.
You're a slow *SQUEE* . . .

In more ways than one, apparently.

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:06 pm

JLThorpe wrote:
dellamorte wrote:Gold logo editions, free book (unity 0)
DC released numerous free comics in the 80s, most notably those New Teen Titans drug awareness books, but usually they were promo books (DC Sampler, etc.).

Hey, good bump JL! This topic should have plenty of legs on it. Welcome to the boards.

Free books go back to the very first days of comic books which were used to promote products as far back as the turn of the 20th century.

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:07 pm

Escaflown4 wrote:What about 3D comics? Were there any books that pre-dated Valiant Vision?

3D books go back to the fifties, Superman, Mighty Mouse, etc.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:19 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote: "comic book visual enhancement technique that shall not be named"
so it is written, so it shall be.
CBVETTSNBN for short, edit: as Siren posted as I was writing this post.

You got caught...

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:32 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
First 'limited edition' comic? Nexus #1 came with a 'limited edition' of 500, signed, with an additional poster and sketch.

Oops. I was wrong. It's Marvel Comics Super Special #11-13, each of which had a 25 copy print run with a gold seal and signed by the artists....

I've never seen one. I don't know if they're numbered.

Orrrrr...it could be Shock Illustrated, which only had 100 copies known...but it's a magazine, soooo....

So, in the murky pre-1980's depths of "limited edition" books, does anyone know of any else...?

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:34 pm

TKWill wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
dellamorte wrote:Gold logo editions, free book (unity 0)
DC released numerous free comics in the 80s, most notably those New Teen Titans drug awareness books, but usually they were promo books (DC Sampler, etc.).
But the Drug Awareness books had corporate sponsor's (I think, Keebler) that helped reduce some of that cost.

But they were still free to the consumer. They were giveaways. Valiant didn't pioneer the concept....they just made it famous.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:35 pm

IanAlexavier wrote:Wasnt there an old JLA book with a variant cover From back in the 70's?? Or early 80's?

Justice League #3 has a variant cover, July 1987. Is that what you're thinking of?

Sandman #1 (1974) has what I believe is an accidental purple variant.

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:43 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:Wasnt there an old JLA book with a variant cover From back in the 70's?? Or early 80's?
Justice League #3 has a variant cover, July 1987. Is that what you're thinking of?

Sandman #1 (1974) has what I believe is an accidental purple variant.

The Fantastic Four issue with the green faces on the cover; printing error or VARIANT!?!??! (issue 114 or so, iirc).

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:45 pm

mrwoogieman wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
IanAlexavier wrote:Wasnt there an old JLA book with a variant cover From back in the 70's?? Or early 80's?
Justice League #3 has a variant cover, July 1987. Is that what you're thinking of?

Sandman #1 (1974) has what I believe is an accidental purple variant.
The Fantastic Four issue with the green faces on the cover; printing error or VARIANT!?!??! (issue 114 or so, iirc).

#110....another accidental variant!

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:45 pm

Soooo....have we pretty much shot down all the things that Valiant could have been first at, but wasn't....?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:50 pm

DEFINITELY the first company to do "X" and "O" versions of the same-numbered comics, right? RIGHT!

VALIANT! #1 again, baby!

JLThorpe · Post by **JLThorpe** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:38 pm

mrwoogieman wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
dellamorte wrote:Gold logo editions, free book (unity 0)
DC released numerous free comics in the 80s, most notably those New Teen Titans drug awareness books, but usually they were promo books (DC Sampler, etc.).
Hey, good bump JL! This topic should have plenty of legs on it. Welcome to the boards.

Thanks. I was bored at work and decided to correct a 4 year old message board post.

And outside of Chromium covers (probably my favorite cover gimmick out of all the ones in the 90s), I can't think of anything else Valiant pioneered that wasn't done elsewhere.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:21 pm

JLThorpe wrote:
mrwoogieman wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:
dellamorte wrote:Gold logo editions, free book (unity 0)
DC released numerous free comics in the 80s, most notably those New Teen Titans drug awareness books, but usually they were promo books (DC Sampler, etc.).
Hey, good bump JL! This topic should have plenty of legs on it. Welcome to the boards.
Thanks. I was bored at work and decided to correct a 4 year old message board post.

And outside of Chromium covers (probably my favorite cover gimmick out of all the ones in the 90s), I can't think of anything else Valiant pioneered that wasn't done elsewhere.

Choas Comics did a did a first issue of a Lady Death mini-series with
a chromium cover.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:37 pm

Some were ok but crapvision was horrible, it made me quit a few titles back then