Harbinger Movie!!!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:10 pm

This is great news! Hopefully this puts some $$$ into VEI and helps bring the comics about even quicker!

A lot of people were *SQUEE* when Bay was announced for Transformers, and that become a hit that was respectful to the source material. We should just be happy a director with clout is attatched at this point, it will only cause more attention.

cheers!

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:11 pm

greg wrote:The simple fact that we're debating whether an A-list director is right for Harbinger makes me smile.

exactly. yesterday this wasn't even a rational discussion. count your blessings

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:16 pm

greg wrote:The simple fact that we're debating whether an A-list director is right for Harbinger makes me smile.

Well put

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:17 pm

So, Elfman or Williams for the theme?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:20 pm

Heath wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Bryan Singer may have been a better choice.
Not based on Superman Returns. Dang, that movie sucked balls. And I wasn't really impressed with his X-Men work either. It just seemed kind of bland to me.

To each his own I guess.

I thought Bryan did a great job in X1 and X2.

As far as Superman Returns, there were certain aspects of the movie I did not care for, but overall he stayed true to the spirit of the Christopher Reeves movies.

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:24 pm

Escaflown4 wrote: ... I can already imagine Ratner just throwing the characters in rampant carnage and killing them nonstop and call it a movie...

Reminds me of Spawn the movie...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:32 pm

greg wrote:The simple fact that we're debating whether an A-list director is right for Harbinger makes me smile.

Ditto.

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:34 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Heath wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Bryan Singer may have been a better choice.
Not based on Superman Returns. Dang, that movie sucked balls. And I wasn't really impressed with his X-Men work either. It just seemed kind of bland to me.

To each his own I guess.

I thought Bryan did a great job in X1 and X2.

As far as Superman Returns, there were certain aspects of the movie I did not care for, but overall he stayed true to the spirit of the Christopher Reeves movies.

Ok, I am missing something here... Why does it look like we are comparing Harbinger to X-Men? Or is it just me?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:35 pm

yardstick wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
Heath wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Bryan Singer may have been a better choice.
Not based on Superman Returns. Dang, that movie sucked balls. And I wasn't really impressed with his X-Men work either. It just seemed kind of bland to me.

To each his own I guess.

I thought Bryan did a great job in X1 and X2.

As far as Superman Returns, there were certain aspects of the movie I did not care for, but overall he stayed true to the spirit of the Christopher Reeves movies.
Ok, I am missing something here... Why does it look like we are comparing Harbinger to X-Men? Or is it just me?

The comparison seems to be based on the fact that Ratner directed X3, which some people didn't like.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:48 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
yardstick wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
Heath wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:Bryan Singer may have been a better choice.
Not based on Superman Returns. Dang, that movie sucked balls. And I wasn't really impressed with his X-Men work either. It just seemed kind of bland to me.

To each his own I guess.

I thought Bryan did a great job in X1 and X2.

As far as Superman Returns, there were certain aspects of the movie I did not care for, but overall he stayed true to the spirit of the Christopher Reeves movies.
Ok, I am missing something here... Why does it look like we are comparing Harbinger to X-Men? Or is it just me?
The comparison seems to be based on the fact that Ratner directed X3, which some people didn't like.

Yeah, it wasn't a comparison of X-Men and Harbinger. It was a discussion of Ratner and Singer's directing skills. They both just happened to direct X-Men movies.

Spagg · Post by **Spagg** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:28 pm

greg wrote:The simple fact that we're debating whether an A-list director is right for Harbinger makes me smile.

I agree 100%!! I am happy that my favorite comic universe isn't just gone. Things continue to look up for all of these great characters.

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:31 pm

Congrats to VEI on this one.

On a separate note, I will be keeping an eye out to see when and if Newsarama makes mention of any of today's VEI-related news items.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm

Geomancer wrote:Congrats to VEI on this one.

On a separate note, I will be keeping an eye out to see when and if Newsarama makes mention of any of today's VEI-related news items.

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/11/pa ... tt-ratner/

Geomancer · Post by **Geomancer** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:54 pm

very nice. Thanks MoTA. And hopefully this can put to rest concerns about newsarama's VEI coverage.

A front page in depth article would be great once there is more concrete news on new releases (when and whom)

Rai-fan · Post by **Rai-fan** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:58 pm

I'm excited.

And frankly, Ratner gets it done. He was given a locked script and virtually zero time & additional budget to complete X3 once Singer dropped out. And frankly, X3--flawed as it was, was better than both Superman Returns & Spiderman 3.

Moreover, I enjoyed the Rush Hour movies and think he showed great range w/ both Red Dragon & Family Man.

This can only be a good thing for raising Valiant awareness & jumpstarting the comics.

Jaknife · Post by **Jaknife** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:57 pm

thankfully, harbinger isnt as important to me as some other titles, so ratner doesnt worry me too much, although i greatly disliked x3. still, i hope its great.

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:15 pm

I would love to see hayden christianson as sting and the guy that played the old hand boss in the elektra movie (he has also been in planet of the apes as a monkey, the mortal combat movie) as harada!

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:51 pm

Could someone explain to me what "young Blade Runner" means? I admit, that is going right over my head.

I haven't seen BR in over a decade, so I don't see the connections.

I just hope they're not planning to set Harbinger "in the nearby future" or something like that.

jsbt · Post by **jsbt** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:02 pm

Didn't Jim state somewhere that his intention for Harbinger was to do the "anti X-Men"? That's why I'm opposed to any big director of spectacle or big composer like Williams or Elfman. It should be a more rough and ready, handheld, indie-type of film, depicting the kids on the road, who just happen to have superpowers. Sure, there can be big FX and action, but they shouldn't lose sight of what makes this property unique, and not just let it turn into an X-clone - keep the youthful tone and voice, and renegade aesthetic. That's why I'd much prefer Alfonso Cuaron. "Y Tu Mama Tambien" had road trips, young people, and even bisexuality for Pete.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:59 pm

While I whole-heartedly agree that Brian Singer would be my first choice of directors, Ratner isn't a complete rat of a director. I DID like his take on "After the Sunset", which happened to showcase Salma's ample talents.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:00 pm

Oh, and i agree that it's not as if Singer did a bang up job on Superman Returns.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:03 pm

david_albuq wrote:Oh, and i agree that it's not as if Singer did a bang up job on Superman Returns.

Superman Returns was SOURCEABLE.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:18 pm

I just have a simple question....

Why is VEI putting so much behind Harbinger to be the flagship for valiants come back? It was the first HC, now movie rumors, etc.

I would think they'd wanna build back the/a universe, but already seems like they're putting all thier eggs in one basket with harbinger already!

Fanboy375 · Post by **Fanboy375** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:31 pm

Rai / Harbinger / XO / Shadowman were the original titles that Valiant created. Solar and Magnus are probably still being negotiated since they were not original creations.

Rai is a book set in the future.

XO would be too much like Iron Man and since that movie is coming out i would wait. Although the way the venom outfit looked in SM3 I cannot wait to see what XO would look like.

Shadowman and Harbinger are left and Harbinger would be more of a base for the universe.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:29 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:Could someone explain to me what "young Blade Runner" means? I admit, that is going right over my head.

I haven't seen BR in over a decade, so I don't see the connections.

I just hope they're not planning to set Harbinger "in the nearby future" or something like that.

Yeah, what does that mean? Only thing I can see is that both are about a new species trying to find its place in the world and understand its creation. I would expect something more for such a statement.

/Magnus