Worst Valiant Cover Ever

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Conceptually, it was his idea, regardless of how simple it may have been, so yeah, he deserved to get paid for it.

No disagreement from me. And I think the price was more than fair.

And, if there's a problem, you can always paste up a spare #5 cover over your #10.

[IanAlexavier]

There are not many things that BWS has drawn that I dont like.. hmm, sounds like a good thread title: BWS Art

[superman-prime]

Come on poka a dot solar 10 is the winner

[JustCallMeAric]

Come on guys, theres no contest here. The artist missed his deadline and they publish it anyway.

(Prolly a joke, but for the record, this had nothing to do with BWS missing any deadlines....they planned it this way from the beginning. Solar #10's cover is the link between the "world's largest comic book panel" in Alpha and Omega, and the first panel of Solar #1. Quite brilliant, if you ask me. I'm just surprised BWS SIGNED the cover. )

I never knew why it was black

[Dr. Solar]

Come on guys, theres no contest here. The artist missed his deadline and they publish it anyway.

(Prolly a joke, but for the record, this had nothing to do with BWS missing any deadlines....they planned it this way from the beginning. Solar #10's cover is the link between the "world's largest comic book panel" in Alpha and Omega, and the first panel of Solar #1. Quite brilliant, if you ask me. I'm just surprised BWS SIGNED the cover. )

I never knew why it was black

It is the blackness that Phil experiences between the final panel of Alpha & Omega, and the first panel of Solar 1 (or something like that).

I think Jim Shooter writes something about this on the page preceeding the chapter of Alpha & Omega found in Solar 10.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Come on guys, theres no contest here. The artist missed his deadline and they publish it anyway.

(Prolly a joke, but for the record, this had nothing to do with BWS missing any deadlines....they planned it this way from the beginning. Solar #10's cover is the link between the "world's largest comic book panel" in Alpha and Omega, and the first panel of Solar #1. Quite brilliant, if you ask me. I'm just surprised BWS SIGNED the cover. )

I never knew why it was black

It is the blackness that Phil experiences between the final panel of Alpha & Omega, and the first panel of Solar 1 (or something like that).

I think Jim Shooter writes something about this on the page preceeding the chapter of Alpha & Omega found in Solar 10.

Yes indeedy.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Not to derail....HA!

But the whole concept behind Solar 1-10, and Alpha & Omega was absolutely BRILLIANT, and is quite possibly one of my most favorite story telling feats in all of comics.....

See, instead of publishing Alpha & Omega as a four issue mini-series or something BEFORE the events depicted in "regular" Solar #1 and after, they published it in ten 8-page inserts CONCURRENTLY with the "regular" series....and, with several nods to the Gold Key Dr. Solar, Shooter, Layton and BWS come up with a way to not only re-define the character for Valiant, but also a way to acknowledge the Gold Key stories without just pretending they never happened....AND....at the very same time, creating the "event" which would foundationally define and shape the Valiant universe for years to come!

So yes, the cover to #10 is simply the last "panel" of Alpha & Omega, where Phil goes from the wormhole he creates after he accidentally destroys Gayle, and then the entire universe, and is re-created in (or re-creates himself) a new one.

It was DEVILISHLY clever, one of the best things I think Jim Shooter has EVER done. It's far and away the most clever and effective storytelling device of the Valiant universe, and made even moreso when you consider that it's three different stories in one book..."new" Solar is published, #1-10, along with "old" Solar, in the same book, at the same time....and in the middle of all of them, the last panel of "old" Solar, the conclusion to the insert story, is published at the centerfold of all 10 books.

So if one wants to read them in order, it's: Alpha & Omega in Solar #1-10, the end of which leads directly to the centerfolds #1-10, which leads directly to the cover of #10, which leads directly to the first panel of "regular" Solar #1.

Brilliant.

It also demonstrates exactly WHY Solar, and not Magnus, is the lynchpin character of the entire Valiant Universe.

Oh....and raise your hand if you were geek enough to actually lay #1-10 flat on your floor to see the panel assembled.....?

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

Did we just derail this thread into a "Best Cover Ever"....?

[IanAlexavier]

Officially derailed, put back on rail and derailed again!! A successful re-railed derailing! Bravo



I think...

[Dr. Solar]

Not to derail....HA!

But the whole concept behind Solar 1-10, and Alpha & Omega was absolutely BRILLIANT, and is quite possibly one of my most favorite story telling feats in all of comics.....

See, instead of publishing Alpha & Omega as a four issue mini-series or something BEFORE the events depicted in "regular" Solar #1 and after, they published it in ten 8-page inserts CONCURRENTLY with the "regular" series....and, with several nods to the Gold Key Dr. Solar, Shooter, Layton and BWS come up with a way to not only re-define the character for Valiant, but also a way to acknowledge the Gold Key stories without just pretending they never happened....AND....at the very same time, creating the "event" which would foundationally define and shape the Valiant universe for years to come!

So yes, the cover to #10 is simply the last "panel" of Alpha & Omega, where Phil goes from the wormhole he creates after he accidentally destroys Gayle, and then the entire universe, and is re-created in (or re-creates himself) a new one.

It was DEVILISHLY clever, one of the best things I think Jim Shooter has EVER done. It's far and away the most clever and effective storytelling device of the Valiant universe, and made even moreso when you consider that it's three different stories in one book..."new" Solar is published, #1-10, along with "old" Solar, in the same book, at the same time....and in the middle of all of them, the last panel of "old" Solar, the conclusion to the insert story, is published at the centerfold of all 10 books.

So if one wants to read them in order, it's: Alpha & Omega in Solar #1-10, the end of which leads directly to the centerfolds #1-10, which leads directly to the cover of #10, which leads directly to the first panel of "regular" Solar #1.

Brilliant.

It also demonstrates exactly WHY Solar, and not Magnus, is the lynchpin character of the entire Valiant Universe.

Oh....and raise your hand if you were geek enough to actually lay #1-10 flat on your floor to see the panel assembled.....?

Well said.

And yes, I raise my hand. I laid them all out on the floor of my living room when I was a kid after I finally got them all. Cost a 13 year old a lot of money to get them all.

[The Harbinger]

Personally my least favorite cover

[superman-prime]

ITs manga solar

[xodacia81]

I'd vote for some of the late run H.A.R.D. Corps covers. Sad part is the interiors weren't much different. Totally craptastic. Someone needs to scan those sad things-with a warnig, of course. Such sights are hazardous to the eyes, kinda like arc-welding.

[JustCallMeAric]

Personally my least favorite cover

I was looking at this cover yesterday, I got it in a lot of comics from Sonicdan, and thinking the same thing.

[Vault-Keeper]

I'd vote for some of the late run H.A.R.D. Corps covers. Sad part is the interiors weren't much different. Totally craptastic. Someone needs to scan those sad things-with a warnig, of course. Such sights are hazardous to the eyes, kinda like arc-welding.

Val Mayerik did a nice painted cover to one of the last issues, that I thought was nice. Here it is, issue #29:




http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/issue.asp?cn=248

[*SQUEE*]

This one is terrible.



What the hell is wrong with Dr. Mirage?

[xodacia81]

This one is terrible.



What the hell is wrong with Dr. Mirage?

Bernard Chang isn't drawing him and Bob Layton isn't writing him

[xodacia81]

I'd vote for some of the late run H.A.R.D. Corps covers. Sad part is the interiors weren't much different. Totally craptastic. Someone needs to scan those sad things-with a warnig, of course. Such sights are hazardous to the eyes, kinda like arc-welding.

Val Mayerik did a nice painted cover to one of the last issues, that I thought was nice. Here it is, issue #29:


http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/issue.asp?cn=248

That's not a BAD cover. I usually go for art LIKE that, depending on the scene, but I don't know. I just have bad feelings associated with the last few issues of Corps.

[StarBrand]

I've really been enjoying this thread. All in all, I have to vote for the six finger Magnus. Pretty funny, but inexcusable.

[JustCallMeAric]

I'd vote for some of the late run H.A.R.D. Corps covers. Sad part is the interiors weren't much different. Totally craptastic. Someone needs to scan those sad things-with a warnig, of course. Such sights are hazardous to the eyes, kinda like arc-welding.

Val Mayerik did a nice painted cover to one of the last issues, that I thought was nice. Here it is, issue #29:


http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/issue.asp?cn=248

Not bad at all.

[Heath]

Most of the Birthquake covers were crap, but the ones that I hated the most were the later issues of HARD Corps. Of course the writing in those issues (as with everything Mike Baron ever wrote for Valiant) was even more crap.

[sonicdan]

This one is terrible.



What the hell is wrong with Dr. Mirage?

DAN

[wallywest]

This one is terrible.



What the hell is wrong with Dr. Mirage?

While this is certainly not a great cover, I don't think it deserves to be on a list with some of the other covers posted. I mean seriously...compare it side by side with either the roid rage Solar or the six-fingered Magnus or the rabies and rickets X-O and there is no comparison.

[JustCallMeAric]

I also don't like this cover. Frank Miller sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Daniel Jackson]

I like most of Frank's work, but I'm not very fond of that cover.