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Re: My thoughts On The X-O Ivory Logo Book
caxiotis wrote:I don't think that anyone thinks that you are making things up. We are just questioning the validity of CGC's decision to call this an error or whatever it is. You integrity is not being called into question.StarBrand wrote:Here are my thoughts on the X-O Ivory error, now being the only person on this board who has seen an authetic Ivory error.
Although it appears Gold ink was used in printing this comic, I believe the only mistake CGC made was calling this the Gold Edition. Therefore I'm agreeing with Greg on his point that it was incorrect to do so.
This book has the appearance of having a translucent veneer of Ivory over the entire surface. The normally silver areas have a golden tint, and all areas on the front and back cover that are normally white look like Ivory. I've seen hundreds of copies of the book over the years, and this is the only copy like this I've seen. To the person who stated this copy is subpar, that couldn't be further from the truth. It's quite a beautiful enhancement, and would be the ultimate addition to any Valiant fans' collection.
I must say, I'm not sure about the comment about 'people making things up.' I'm approaching 6,000 postive feedbacks on eBay with no negatives, and having owned several comic book stores, bought and sold hundereds of thousands of comics, and having been in the hobby more years than I care to remember, I'm not particularly fond of that being said. As for the owner of this book, Robert Letscher of Key Comics, I've dealt with him for years and there is no question as to his integrity. His feedback on eBay is quite impressive also. Robert, at times an advisor to Overstreet, former contributor to Comic Book Marketplace and Wizard VIP, has been selling Valiants on eBay since the late nineties, and off eBay continuously since Valiant's inception. If you were around when Valiant was in it's heyday, then you may have purchased from him yourself, as Robert was into Valiant from the beginning, having been running full-page ads in the CBG and other trade mages of the day. He may have been 'onto' the quality of Valiant before anyone else, having bought a quantity of Magnus 1 and going from there.
Although over the years Robert had mentioned this beautiful book to me from time to time, I'm just now seeing it for the first time today, as it was just taken out of Robert's safe deposit box, where he held it for years, and finally sent it off to CGC for certification.

No one was saying YOU were making things up, Mark...they said CGC was. There's a bit of a difference.
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Re: My thoughts On The X-O Ivory Logo Book
Why don't you tell us all about your Ivory Solar 10????caxiotis wrote:I don't think that anyone thinks that you are making things up. We are just questioning the validity of CGC's decision to call this an error or whatever it is. You integrity is not being called into question.StarBrand wrote:Here are my thoughts on the X-O Ivory error, now being the only person on this board who has seen an authetic Ivory error.
Although it appears Gold ink was used in printing this comic, I believe the only mistake CGC made was calling this the Gold Edition. Therefore I'm agreeing with Greg on his point that it was incorrect to do so.
This book has the appearance of having a translucent veneer of Ivory over the entire surface. The normally silver areas have a golden tint, and all areas on the front and back cover that are normally white look like Ivory. I've seen hundreds of copies of the book over the years, and this is the only copy like this I've seen. To the person who stated this copy is subpar, that couldn't be further from the truth. It's quite a beautiful enhancement, and would be the ultimate addition to any Valiant fans' collection.
I must say, I'm not sure about the comment about 'people making things up.' I'm approaching 6,000 postive feedbacks on eBay with no negatives, and having owned several comic book stores, bought and sold hundereds of thousands of comics, and having been in the hobby more years than I care to remember, I'm not particularly fond of that being said. As for the owner of this book, Robert Letscher of Key Comics, I've dealt with him for years and there is no question as to his integrity. His feedback on eBay is quite impressive also. Robert, at times an advisor to Overstreet, former contributor to Comic Book Marketplace and Wizard VIP, has been selling Valiants on eBay since the late nineties, and off eBay continuously since Valiant's inception. If you were around when Valiant was in it's heyday, then you may have purchased from him yourself, as Robert was into Valiant from the beginning, having been running full-page ads in the CBG and other trade mages of the day. He may have been 'onto' the quality of Valiant before anyone else, having bought a quantity of Magnus 1 and going from there.
Although over the years Robert had mentioned this beautiful book to me from time to time, I'm just now seeing it for the first time today, as it was just taken out of Robert's safe deposit box, where he held it for years, and finally sent it off to CGC for certification.

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Re: My thoughts On The X-O Ivory Logo Book
StarBrand wrote:Here are my thoughts on the X-O Ivory error, now being the only person on this board who has seen an authetic Ivory error.
Although it appears Gold ink was used in printing this comic, I believe the only mistake CGC made was calling this the Gold Edition. Therefore I'm agreeing with Greg on his point that it was incorrect to do so.
This book has the appearance of having a translucent veneer of Ivory over the entire surface. The normally silver areas have a golden tint, and all areas on the front and back cover that are normally white look like Ivory. I've seen hundreds of copies of the book over the years, and this is the only copy like this I've seen. To the person who stated this copy is subpar, that couldn't be further from the truth. It's quite a beautiful enhancement, and would be the ultimate addition to any Valiant fans' collection.
I must say, I'm not sure about the comment about 'people making things up.' I'm approaching 6,000 postive feedbacks on eBay with no negatives, and having owned several comic book stores, bought and sold hundereds of thousands of comics, and having been in the hobby more years than I care to remember, I'm not particularly fond of that being said. As for the owner of this book, Robert Letscher of Key Comics, I've dealt with him for years and there is no question as to his integrity. His feedback on eBay is quite impressive also. Robert, at times an advisor to Overstreet, former contributor to Comic Book Marketplace and Wizard VIP, has been selling Valiants on eBay since the late nineties, and off eBay continuously since Valiant's inception. If you were around when Valiant was in it's heyday, then you may have purchased from him yourself, as Robert was into Valiant from the beginning, having been running full-page ads in the CBG and other trade mages of the day. He may have been 'onto' the quality of Valiant before anyone else, having bought a quantity of Magnus 1 and going from there.
Although over the years Robert had mentioned this beautiful book to me from time to time, I'm just now seeing it for the first time today, as it was just taken out of Robert's safe deposit box, where he held it for years, and finally sent it off to CGC for certification.
This reads to me like someone trying to sell me something.
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Good.greg wrote:I've sent an email to CGC letting them know that they screwed up.![]()
Yep.greg wrote:While this is a "variation" in color when compared to "pure white",
this book has absolutely nothing to do with the Gold Editions.
Maybe by the notation on the submission form or by discussion. If that's the case, between this and the Pink being put on the registry, I'm thinking that CGC needs to start thinking on their own a little bit instead of listening to submitters or things might start getting ridiculous.ckb wrote:Can anyone think of (or see) why they would be so confused to think this was a misprint of a Gold edition???
See board member ---> ZWH. I'm sure he could school CGC on variants.StarBrand wrote:I doubt anyone on this board knows more about comic book printing and variants than CGC.
Has anyone peeled a Bloodshot Gold to see if they can tell if the pink was a primer color?chainnball wrote:Therefore the gold would not cover up the price. I peeled a book to verify this. I just wish another would show up, and who knows...maybe some day one will. I will have it in NY if anyone wants to see it.
Dude, the one in the bottom middle.... the Valiant star shines a little more than the others. Send it in to CGC with "Shiny Star Variant" on the submission form, give them a call to remind them of this and viola.... a new Valiant variant is born.chainnball wrote:I seem to have at least 3, from left to right, ivory to white.
Please check your wallet at the door, thank you.mrwoogieman wrote:This reads to me like someone trying to sell me something.
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Such bitterness400yrs wrote:Good.greg wrote:I've sent an email to CGC letting them know that they screwed up.
Yep.greg wrote:While this is a "variation" in color when compared to "pure white",
this book has absolutely nothing to do with the Gold Editions.Maybe by the notation on the submission form or by discussion. If that's the case, between this and the Pink being put on the registry, I'm thinking that CGC needs to start thinking on their own a little bit instead of listening to submitters or things might start getting ridiculous.ckb wrote:Can anyone think of (or see) why they would be so confused to think this was a misprint of a Gold edition???
See board member ---> ZWH. I'm sure he could school CGC on variants.StarBrand wrote:I doubt anyone on this board knows more about comic book printing and variants than CGC.
Has anyone peeled a Bloodshot Gold to see if they can tell if the pink was a primer color?chainnball wrote:Therefore the gold would not cover up the price. I peeled a book to verify this. I just wish another would show up, and who knows...maybe some day one will. I will have it in NY if anyone wants to see it.
Dude, the one in the bottom middle.... the Valiant star shines a little more than the others. Send it in to CGC with "Shiny Star Variant" on the submission form, give them a call to remind them of this and viola.... a new Valiant variant is born.chainnball wrote:I seem to have at least 3, from left to right, ivory to white.
Please check your wallet at the door, thank you.mrwoogieman wrote:This reads to me like someone trying to sell me something.

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chainnball wrote:Such bitterness400yrs wrote:Good.greg wrote:I've sent an email to CGC letting them know that they screwed up.
Yep.greg wrote:While this is a "variation" in color when compared to "pure white",
this book has absolutely nothing to do with the Gold Editions.Maybe by the notation on the submission form or by discussion. If that's the case, between this and the Pink being put on the registry, I'm thinking that CGC needs to start thinking on their own a little bit instead of listening to submitters or things might start getting ridiculous.ckb wrote:Can anyone think of (or see) why they would be so confused to think this was a misprint of a Gold edition???
See board member ---> ZWH. I'm sure he could school CGC on variants.StarBrand wrote:I doubt anyone on this board knows more about comic book printing and variants than CGC.
Has anyone peeled a Bloodshot Gold to see if they can tell if the pink was a primer color?chainnball wrote:Therefore the gold would not cover up the price. I peeled a book to verify this. I just wish another would show up, and who knows...maybe some day one will. I will have it in NY if anyone wants to see it.
Dude, the one in the bottom middle.... the Valiant star shines a little more than the others. Send it in to CGC with "Shiny Star Variant" on the submission form, give them a call to remind them of this and viola.... a new Valiant variant is born.chainnball wrote:I seem to have at least 3, from left to right, ivory to white.
Please check your wallet at the door, thank you.mrwoogieman wrote:This reads to me like someone trying to sell me something.

I'm not saying that I would do anything differently than either you or Starbrand. I'm simply saying that I don't think that CGC has handled these matters as they should.
Get over yourself, girlfriend.

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Re: What do you think?
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