Harbinger: The Beginning - Diamond Distribution - Canceled?

rictor · Post by **rictor** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:19 pm

At least Greg's comments are still up. They just deleted a bunch of Troy Brownfield's posts in the same thread. And that's one of Matt's guys. Things are getting rough over there.

mobstirr · Post by **mobstirr** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:04 pm

greg wrote:
thePike wrote:
greg wrote:
ckb wrote:Wow did Greg get banned!!! Holy crud - why not just remove the post. Matt has to know who the Valiantman is.
Valiantman knows who Matt listens to... can anyone guess who is Newsarama's legal counsel?

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=123728
"Lovitz has also provided legal analysis for Newsarama stories in the past."
Wow, just how deep does the rabbit hole go?
Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Where there's an article about Valiant properties that spends more time letting
a lawyer with zero copyrights complain about supposedly "mean fans",
there's an article writer who doesn't care about Valiant copyrights and fans.

That guy is like a bad penny...

hobosleftnut · Post by **hobosleftnut** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:29 pm

What's next?

"Dealer incentives for NOT dealing with VEI"?

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:41 pm

Barnes and Noble are having a delay in shipping the hardcover, but they claim it will be shipped in the new few days. We'll see...

terminus · Post by **terminus** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:56 pm

Ok,y'all I just read about the cancellation of the Hardcover.What aload of BS!

figures Lovtiz wants "go away"money.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:19 pm

Brother J wrote:Barnes and Noble are having a delay in shipping the hardcover, but they claim it will be shipped in the new few days. We'll see...

Lets hope they come through with the books.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:57 pm

Just found this posted at Newsarama a short time ago...

thefourthman

UPDATE!!!!?????????????????????????

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Uh, on my invoice for next week it says that my orders for the Harbringer HC that had previously cancelled are reinstated... Does anyone know what this means? Will we get a followup? Anyone from Diamond care to comment?

Anyone heard anything different today? I'll try calling my lcs about it later.

rictor · Post by **rictor** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:09 pm

The same thing showed up on my invoice as well. I don't have any further insight into exactly what it means. I am often confused by Diamond's cancellation/reinstatement notices.

EDIT: Okay, I never checked for myself when it was canceled, but I have seen numerous people say that the Harbinger HC was not showing up as an orderable item. I just checked now, and it is showing up in searches and when I click on the order button it shows up as "Order Increase" which is what shows up for upcoming releases.

rictor · Post by **rictor** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:43 pm

From Newsarama:

UPDATE: Several stores have told Newsarama that the Harbinger HC has appeared on their Diamond invoices for books due in next week. When contacted by Newsarama, Diamond VP - Purchasing Bill Schanes told Newsarama that the change in status was a mistake which has since been resolved. [Shipment of the book] is still on hold pending legal dispute being resolved. Our PO to them [VEI] is on hold pending a resolution of this matter. Diamond doesn’t discuss any legal dispute for publication." Asked to clarify, and if this meant that the book would not be in stores next week, Schanes said, "Correct."

MattB

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:51 pm

translation: They will take orders, but arent gonna ship anything until the dispute is resolved.

makes ya wonder if (God forbid) the dispute goes VIP's way (which due to Greg's excellent analysis, it probably wont) whether Diamond would ship at all...

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:24 pm

why did the price on Amazon change? No more discount?

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:41 pm

Ryan wrote:why did the price on Amazon change? No more discount?

Too many sales for the Amazon system to confirm at one time (unanticipated orders).
The system automatically raised the price to cover themselves in the event of unavailability.

Not to worry, there are plenty of books printed, Amazon just needs
to let VEI know how many they want and they'll be on their way.

(..and then they can lower the price again.)

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:24 pm

greg wrote: Too many sales for the Amazon system to confirm at one time (unanticipated orders).
The system automatically raised the price to cover themselves in the event of unavailability.

Not to worry, there are plenty of books printed, Amazon just needs
to let VEI know how many they want and they'll be on their way.

(..and then they can lower the price again.)

Sweeet. Just went to my lcs today where I had it ordered and had to explain to him the thing with diamond and why it didn't ship. He said Bob Hall didn't even know about that (yes Bob Hall goes to my lcs

). Still waiting to see how this plays out a bit, but I can't wait to get my hands on a HC. The worst thing about all this is that it's turned what should be a time of celebration for us fans into a time of confusion and frustration. I'm ready to celebrate this great book myself and let everything else work itself out. Great work VEI and keep it up

buff-beardo · Post by **buff-beardo** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:33 pm

I take my hat off to you Greg, you've done us proud! I read the entire thread at newsarama and I am exhausted! I applaud you for keeping your composure and presenting logical arguments in the face of obviously hostile parties. (EDITED)

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:12 pm

buff-beardo wrote: I take my hat off to you Greg, you've done us proud! I read the entire thread at newsarama and I am exhausted! I applaud you for keeping your composure and presenting logical arguments in the face of obviously hostile parties

Tell us how you really feel

buff-beardo · Post by **buff-beardo** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:49 pm

You don't want to hear it, trust me.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:50 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
buff-beardo wrote: I take my hat off to you Greg, you've done us proud! I read the entire thread at newsarama and I am exhausted! I applaud you for keeping your composure and presenting logical arguments in the face of obviously hostile parties.
Tell us how you really feel

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:53 pm

My LCS can't get it for now... Amazon told me I have to wait... sigh... where is a Harbinger hardcover to be found....?

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:08 am

etos45 wrote:My LCS can't get it for now... Amazon told me I have to wait... sigh... where is a Harbinger hardcover to be found....?

send daydreams a pm he'll get you one

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:01 am

cobra_commander wrote:
etos45 wrote:My LCS can't get it for now... Amazon told me I have to wait... sigh... where is a Harbinger hardcover to be found....?
send daydreams a pm he'll get you one

I'm gonna do that come payday... I supposedly have one coming from Amazon, they just won't say when. Either way, I wanted a second copy so it can play the race to see which one gets here first...

Eternalwarrior68 · Post by **Eternalwarrior68** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:36 am

My amazon order says it is going to ship in 4-6 weeks. Hopefully it will be much sooner than that.

buff-beardo · Post by **buff-beardo** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:10 am

I edited my above post because, after waking up and rereading it, I immediately realized it was way out of bounds. I feel very passionately about the whole VEI/VIP legal conflict and I let my emotions get the better of me (all the beers didn't help). I apologize to those who read it and to the individual I attacked in my post. It was irresponsible behavior on my part and I regret it.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:10 am

buff-beardo wrote:I edited my above post because, after waking up and rereading it, I immediately realized it was way out of bounds. I feel very passionately about the whole VEI/VIP legal conflict and I let my emotions get the better of me (all the beers didn't help). I apologize to those who read it and to the individual I attacked in my post. It was irresponsible behavior on my part and I regret it.

No worries. It happens from time to time around here.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:18 am

Zero wrote:
buff-beardo wrote:I edited my above post because, after waking up and rereading it, I immediately realized it was way out of bounds. I feel very passionately about the whole VEI/VIP legal conflict and I let my emotions get the better of me (all the beers didn't help). I apologize to those who read it and to the individual I attacked in my post. It was irresponsible behavior on my part and I regret it.
No worries. It happens from time to time around here.

Yeah, it wasn't that bad, but I went ahead and edited the two other quotes that were trapped since it was bothering you.

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This pises me off.

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