VIP ASHCAN AT SDCC! Prepare to be SHOCKED.

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:26 am

Since this topic is 17 pages, it's pretty clear there might be some confusion
about "What's the deal with VALIANT?"

... so ... http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16239

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:45 am

betterthanezra wrote:
greg wrote:
slym2none wrote:
slym2none wrote:Where is Naperville, USA? 28 miles north of downtown Chicago.

Is there any possible connection to be made based on location?

-slym
Do you want an answer?

Because you might ask Graham Crackers Comics.
There thats the connection.

The dealer when I found it said something about Graham Crackers when I got it. He said that while Lovitz delivered it to him it was Graham Crackers who made the ashcan FOR VIP...YES I remember him actually say Graham Cracker...

indeed.

-Brian

Thank you very much, gentlemen.

-slym

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:31 pm

One point I'd like to make. You have all of these posts blasting these ashcans, this thread is 18 pages long. And all the while Lovitz LOVES the free advertizing this gives him and VIP.

You've essentially hyped this limited print ashcan and are feeding into the speculators hands the fact that this is a limited edition collectible.

AND its is a huge bit of free advertizing, all for what most people here consider the enemy. I'd delete any pictures of the ashcans on the site and not advertize that its for sale on ebay if you wanted to be more effective in this boycot.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:38 pm

MProyas wrote:One point I'd like to make. You have all of these posts blasting these ashcans, this thread is 18 pages long. And all the while Lovitz LOVES the free advertizing this gives him and VIP.

You've essentially hyped this limited print ashcan and are feeding into the speculators hands the fact that this is a limited edition collectible.

AND its is a huge bit of free advertizing, all for what most people here consider the enemy. I'd delete any pictures of the ashcans on the site and not advertize that its for sale on ebay if you wanted to be more effective in this boycot.

While I agree with you many of those points I still think it's important to keep the pictures on-line because while it's not confusing to us....There is a general comic public that really isn't familier with Valiant.

I'm hosting the pictures at this point and I have NO intention of taking them down for that reason alone. There's only 100 of them and yes there are people out there that might buy them on Ebay but thats THERE choice.

At some point we should move this to a thread were you can see all the pictures like thumbnail style so you can see what the VIP versions look like just for information purposes....Thats not my call. That being said I respect you opinion.

-Brian

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:11 pm

We need to get the word out as a lot of fans are starting to take an interest again in Valiant since seeing the hardcover ads. A lot of them have questions that can be cleared up if we discuss what vip is doing and why it is bad for fans of Valiant. We realize this is also free publicity for vip, but hopefully people can at least make an informed decision on what they would rather have as the new Valiant.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:18 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Just wait six months and buy one from the quarter-bin.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:28 pm

MProyas wrote:One point I'd like to make. You have all of these posts blasting these ashcans, this thread is 18 pages long. And all the while Lovitz LOVES the free advertizing this gives him and VIP.

You've essentially hyped this limited print ashcan and are feeding into the speculators hands the fact that this is a limited edition collectible.

ALL VIP IS ONLY GETTING BAD PRESS. That is the intent of this thread.

The conceptual sketches are a joke.

VIP IS NOT VALIANT. People reading this thread will understand that.

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:45 pm

MProyas wrote:One point I'd like to make. You have all of these posts blasting these ashcans, this thread is 18 pages long. And all the while Lovitz LOVES the free advertizing this gives him and VIP.

You've essentially hyped this limited print ashcan and are feeding into the speculators hands the fact that this is a limited edition collectible.

AND its is a huge bit of free advertizing, all for what most people here consider the enemy. I'd delete any pictures of the ashcans on the site and not advertize that its for sale on ebay if you wanted to be more effective in this boycot.

Any time this point is brought up, it's good to put the focus back...

schi0249 · Post by **schi0249** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:34 am

The more I look at VIP's Harbinger, the more I think that character belonged in the 90's. It looks like it would have fit in well the the grunge movement.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:06 am

schi0249 wrote:The more I look at VIP's Harbinger, the more I think that character belonged in the 90's. It looks like it would have fit in well the the grunge movement.

Looks like a male statue of liberty

or the anti-christ

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:35 am

schi0249 wrote:The more I look at VIP's Harbinger, the more I think that character belonged in the 90's. It looks like it would have fit in well the the grunge movement.

Like something out of that awful PunX book.

schi0249 · Post by **schi0249** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:17 am

Exactly. Am I ever glad VEI does not seem interested in that garbage (apologies to any fans).

iccarus · Post by **iccarus** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:09 am

betterthanezra wrote:
greg wrote:
slym2none wrote:
slym2none wrote:Where is Naperville, USA? 28 miles north of downtown Chicago.

Is there any possible connection to be made based on location?

-slym
Do you want an answer?

Because you might ask Graham Crackers Comics.
There thats the connection.

The dealer when I found it said something about Graham Crackers when I got it. He said that while Lovitz delivered it to him it was Graham Crackers who made the ashcan FOR VIP...YES I remember him actually say Graham Cracker...

indeed.

-Brian

Well, I guess that eliminates any need for me to ever set foot in that store again.

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:03 pm

superman-prime wrote:just go back to posting hit chicks in topic oblivion (good for the heart ) i would but i cant figure out the posting picks thing yet lol (i feel like a tard)

leo?

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:07 pm

slym2none wrote:
greg wrote:
slym2none wrote:Well, I don't think so... I'm just a slightly ego-centric, slightly neurotic, and highly introverted nerd.

-slym
You have slym2noneitis.
Found out that it's fatal too - after an app. 74-year incubation period.

-slym

I think that's a 74-post incubation period...

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:08 pm

Brother J wrote:
slym2none wrote:
depluto wrote:I think some of you people have assbooger syndrome.
They need to learn how to wipe better.

Which reminds me of one of the VERY FIRST conversations I got into here at VF.com... but I digress.....

-slym (don't tempt him into recounting it elsewhere for all of your reading pleasure)
assbooger? another name for dingleberry, I assume...

except I don't think you stick you finger in there to dig it out when it gets stuck...

yardstick · Post by **yardstick** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:10 pm

marvel1 wrote:The VALIANT IP( intellectual property) is a bebate i know nothing about and cant comment on.
Since there has been little info on who owns what and who registered first and what secret was sold to the russians.
I like the art for art sake aspect of the ashcan.
And i thought Dino would put an ashcan out first but VIP beat them to the punch.
I will say VIP has put out something that shows artistic intent, good or bad.
And I likes my art.
Honestly, i think a peace pipe should be passed around and all this *SQUEE* can end and you guys can get the VALIANT books you deserve.
mac

Is the *SQUEE* in the peace pipe?

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:35 pm

yardstick wrote:
superman-prime wrote:just go back to posting hit chicks in topic oblivion (good for the heart ) i would but i cant figure out the posting picks thing yet lol (i feel like a tard)
leo?

What's Eating Gilbert Grape reference?

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:40 pm

Chuck wrote:
MProyas wrote:One point I'd like to make. You have all of these posts blasting these ashcans, this thread is 18 pages long. And all the while Lovitz LOVES the free advertizing this gives him and VIP.

You've essentially hyped this limited print ashcan and are feeding into the speculators hands the fact that this is a limited edition collectible.
ALL VIP IS ONLY GETTING BAD PRESS. That is the intent of this thread.

The conceptual sketches are a joke.

VIP IS NOT VALIANT. People reading this thread will understand that.

All I gotta say (and I admit this may not ring universal, but I am pointificating it anyways) Paris Hilton. That woman gets mostly bad press and it doesn't seem to put a dent in her wallet.

Fact of the matter is press is press and all the speculator is reading is "low print run"

I hope I am wrong mind you.

fury143 · Post by **fury143** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:38 am

Yeah, their deathmate is trying to copy dc's Death.

Did you notice their Eternal Warrior is wearing Death's Ank amd her skirt. What's up with that? Also what is that around his lips.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff065.jpg

fury143 · Post by **fury143** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:12 pm

Rai and the future look like they were trying out to be blues brothers during a sars outbreak http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff061.jpg

fury143 · Post by **fury143** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:24 pm

Which issue did Marvels Archangel start cross dressing or is he trying to look like the statue of liberty for Halloween? To bad he forgot the torch
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff055.jpg

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:06 pm

My friend Nikki brought this image to my attention:

It's associated with one of her favoured bands. Collide or Curve, I cannot remember which. Brought to mind that Harbinger vs. the Hot Topic pic.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:57 pm

fury143 wrote:Also what is that around his lips.

Spoodge.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:12 am

Wow how far we have come from this thing...

-Brian

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