Please help with something new that I've just received

vkid · Post by **vkid** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:50 pm

Before I say much more . . . please forgive me for my ignorance. I have been a Valiant collector for years. However, I have never known the process of how comics are made. I obtained these through a friend.

Does someone out there know what these are exactly? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

chainnball · Post by **chainnball** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:55 pm

PM sent. They are matchprints and cells. Part of the printing process.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:00 pm

Cool as Hell !!!!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:20 pm

Don't see those everyday.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:28 pm

I know what the first two are, but what about the third one, the gray-green Solar #15* cover?

What is it and what part of the printing process is that?

*IIRC

EDIT: Welcome to the bored!

chainnball · Post by **chainnball** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:40 pm

it looks like one of the color layers. They were done in several layers.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:50 pm

chainnball wrote:it looks like one of the color layers. They were done in several layers.

Yeah, it is the black seperation, but there are some strange things about it.

it is:
1) the black seperation printed in gray ink
2) printed on a strange-colored surface, and
3) trimmed.

I'm still not sure where and how this fits into the printing process.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:52 pm

You're right . . . it should be sent to me immediately for inspection . . .

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:55 pm

siren3-4 wrote:You're right . . . it should be sent to me immediately for inspection . . .

No! I've got a keener eye. Send those to me. I'll take much better care of them. I'll take good care of the precioussssss!

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:56 pm

whovianone wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:You're right . . . it should be sent to me immediately for inspection . . .

No! I've got a keener eye. Send those to me. I'll take much better care of them. I'll take good care of the precioussssss!

Don’t trust this man . . . his hands smell like feet . . .

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:58 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
whovianone wrote:
siren3-4 wrote:You're right . . . it should be sent to me immediately for inspection . . .

No! I've got a keener eye. Send those to me. I'll take much better care of them. I'll take good care of the precioussssss!
Don’t trust this man . . . his hands smell like feet . . .

Yeah, but they are MY feet. Now, be a good hobitses, hand me the precioussssss.........

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:01 pm

Guys, I have to step in. I have a degree in fine art with a specialty in printmaking.

I should take the print and inspect it closer.

It's the only way...

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:02 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:Guys, I have to step in. I have a degree in fine art with a specialty in printmaking.

I should take the print and inspect it closer.

It's the only way...

No, he'll hurt the precious! I'll take care of it!

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:10 pm

OK, all smeagolness aside, back to my confusion/question:

Dr. Solar wrote:
chainnball wrote:it looks like one of the color layers. They were done in several layers.
Yeah, it is the black seperation, but there are some strange things about it.

it is:
1) the black seperation printed in gray ink
2) printed on a strange-colored surface, and
3) trimmed.

I'm still not sure where and how this fits into the printing process.

whovianone · Post by **whovianone** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:11 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:OK, all smeagolness aside, back to my confusion/question:

Dr. Solar wrote:
chainnball wrote:it looks like one of the color layers. They were done in several layers.
Yeah, it is the black seperation, but there are some strange things about it.

it is:
1) the black seperation printed in gray ink
2) printed on a strange-colored surface, and
3) trimmed.

I'm still not sure where and how this fits into the printing process.

Sorry bud, got carried away.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:16 pm

whovianone wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:OK, all smeagolness aside, back to my confusion/question:

Dr. Solar wrote:
chainnball wrote:it looks like one of the color layers. They were done in several layers.
Yeah, it is the black seperation, but there are some strange things about it.

it is:
1) the black seperation printed in gray ink
2) printed on a strange-colored surface, and
3) trimmed.

I'm still not sure where and how this fits into the printing process.
Sorry bud, got carried away.

And on this dignified board? How darest thee, fine sir!

Carry on, I just am really curious if anyone knows the answer to my question. Don't want it to get lost in the shuffle.

>gollum< >gollum<

chainnball · Post by **chainnball** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:38 pm

they take that sheet, and lay about 4 or 5 different colored negatives for lack of a better term on top of it to create the colored cover. It is then photographed for the coverplate.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:42 pm

vkid wrote:

Would you be willing to sell this? It would look great with this....

vkid · Post by **vkid** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:45 pm

Thanks for the responses y'all. I'm posting another couple I have. The color is actually yellow with dark green shadows (that's the best way to put it). They're some kind of editing copies, from what I can tell.

Here's another one . . . It's stapled with several pages.

Below is what it looks like when opened (it's hard to see). It opens like a comic.

Below is another one

Below is the back of it

Sorry for posting so many pics . . . It's the only way I could clearly show it.

chainnball · Post by **chainnball** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:45 pm

the second and third pictures combine, with others to make the first picture. a matchprint. The creators then ok the matchprint and they print.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:48 pm

vkid wrote:Sorry for posting so many pics . . . It's the only way I could clearly show it.

Don't be sorry, those are really cool! The more the better!

vkid · Post by **vkid** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:54 pm

Thanks! I appreciate those that are interested in buying. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet . . . still getting used to the idea of having them. When I got 'em . . . I had that lightheaded feeling with a bit of dry mouth . . . trying to stay calm, as to not show my excitement. When I got home, however . . . . you can guess what I was doing then!

I just recently had my salary sliced in half. I don't want to sell them, but may have to 'bay 'em. Personally, I'd like to frame 'em. I'll be deciding soon.

Yes . . . I do have more.

chainnball · Post by **chainnball** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:57 pm

Here's pics of 2 i have that are complete. Hopefully you can see the different layers of color cells.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:04 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
vkid wrote:Sorry for posting so many pics . . . It's the only way I could clearly show it.
Don't be sorry, those are really cool! The more the better!

Absolutely. Rare items like this are neat to see. If you have more items like this, post some pics of them. You'll be doing us all a favor.

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:10 pm

chainnball wrote:Here's pics of 2 i have that are complete. Hopefully you can see the different layers of color cells.

Cool pics! Thanks for posting!
I'm familiar with how color seperation and CMYK printing works (I've hand crafted and printed images in this way), I was just confused about how those grey-green pages fit into either the creation of the color plates or the final print. I'd never seen anything like that.

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