Toughest DU to collect...

myron · Post by **myron** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:14 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
myron wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Anyone tried First comics?
I've got a full run of Nexus(including the capital city stuff...except for the damn issue with the record...#3 I think), the majority of Grimjack and Badger, the Crossroads books and a smattering of some of their other books (Sable, etc) but nowhere near a complete run...I wouldn't have any idea of any incentive books for that line either...
I don't think there WERE any incentive books ever published by First.

that wouldn't surprise me at all...

miracle.eli · Post by **miracle.eli** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:45 am

Knightt wrote:There are NO... I repeat NO super-rare Crossgen books that are out there. Not even any variant covers that I know of of special ultra-holo-foil-embossed-glow in the dark-signed-misprinted-$hit stained Crossgen books out there. The problem is just finding the damn books. I still have under 100 CG books to be at 100% but finding these on Ebay or even in the cheap bins seems near impossible. Which should NOT be a problem as the CG books were printed in the average print run. Not so true of the last issue books because the company started to circle the drain and print runs lessened but not to a degree so as to make them expensive, just a bit harder to find. For me, it has been the books 'in between' that have been difficult to find... well to find cheaply. There are still LCSs out there that charge cover and people even pay cover for them. But for me, I have yet to pay more than $1.00 for any CG book and will keep it that way.

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Back on track... no, no HTF Crossgen stuff, just putting it together. One reason that these books 'should' not be too difficult to put together is that Crossgen had a philosophy and semi-agreement with LCSs that carried their books... and it was that Crossgen wanted to have a minimum of 5 copies of EVERY printed Crossgen books in that LCS at any given time. They wanted someone to be able to walk into the LCS and be able to buy any CG book that they needed on any given day. And CG would provide these books to the LCS, not for free but at a reduced price just to ensure that CG WAS THERE. So, finding these books should NOT be a problem. I would imagine that when the company went *SQUEE* up, many CG books just went into warehouses, basements or back rooms. But funny thing still is that you can find people paying cover and up to a $1.00 over cover for these books. I find it very hard to find CG books in the cheap bins of a LCS these days.

I am hoping that Lightening Comics shows up at SDCC this year again with boxes and boxes of $1.00 books. I scored big on CG books last year and hope to do the same this year. They also rotate new books into the boxes every day and you never know what kind of treasure you might pick up from them... I know I scored a Shadowman (Acclaim) #16 glow in the dark from them last year.

Ditto. I have most of this DU as well, but have gotten most of it thru eBay and mycomicshop.com. Though there are a few random issues at my LCSs, I did not have a CG 'premier' retailer in the area. SOJOURN has been the hardest to find (probably due to Greg Land's art - which I hate), but much of the Code6 stuff is also difficult to locate under cover price. Rob Zombie's SPOOKSHOW #1 is listed at $12 on mycomicshop, and the LADY DEATH books are also at cover price iirc.

Anyway, I started collecting DEFIANT recently to distract myself from CrossGen. At least I have the entire main sigil-centric storyline completed now, which is very good imo.

.w.

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:52 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
myron wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Anyone tried First comics?
I've got a full run of Nexus(including the capital city stuff...except for the damn issue with the record...#3 I think), the majority of Grimjack and Badger, the Crossroads books and a smattering of some of their other books (Sable, etc) but nowhere near a complete run...I wouldn't have any idea of any incentive books for that line either...
I don't think there WERE any incentive books ever published by First.

It took me close to 5 years to get 99% of the First comics publishing's run Dreadstar and I still haven't gotten The Gift due to my limited funds.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:03 pm

myron wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
myron wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Anyone tried First comics?
I've got a full run of Nexus(including the capital city stuff...except for the damn issue with the record...#3 I think), the majority of Grimjack and Badger, the Crossroads books and a smattering of some of their other books (Sable, etc) but nowhere near a complete run...I wouldn't have any idea of any incentive books for that line either...
I don't think there WERE any incentive books ever published by First.
that wouldn't surprise me at all...

Ok, how's THIS for bizarre?

I had been thinking about this in the very back of my mind for some reason.....total way back burner stuff...

So last night, I dreamed that there WAS a First comics premium/variant cover.

How's THAT for freaky?

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:34 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
myron wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
myron wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Anyone tried First comics?
I've got a full run of Nexus(including the capital city stuff...except for the damn issue with the record...#3 I think), the majority of Grimjack and Badger, the Crossroads books and a smattering of some of their other books (Sable, etc) but nowhere near a complete run...I wouldn't have any idea of any incentive books for that line either...
I don't think there WERE any incentive books ever published by First.
that wouldn't surprise me at all...
Ok, how's THIS for bizarre?

I had been thinking about this in the very back of my mind for some reason.....total way back burner stuff...

So last night, I dreamed that there WAS a First comics premium/variant cover.

How's THAT for freaky?

um . . . . that's kind of sad . . . . in a geeky comic book way . .

Rocket2600 · Post by **Rocket2600** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:24 pm

One word of advice is to buy any of the last year of publication of a DU that you come across. They were usually under ordered and most have a very limited print run. So buy them as they don't pop up that often.

Lightning Comics is still incomplete for me after 2 years of hunting.

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:27 pm

Rocket2600 wrote:One word of advice is to buy any of the last year of publication of a DU that you come across. They were usually under ordered and most have a very limited print run. So buy them as they don't pop up that often.

Lightning Comics is still incomplete for me after 2 years of hunting.

Whatcha missin' ? Hmmmmm ?

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:50 pm

I don't think I've completed any of my DU's. I'm missing a handful of VVSS's and a Psi Lords gold for Vh1, the GBU Shadowman and EB turok variant. I'm short a bunch of holo/ultra5000/gold/variant Ultraverse books, a few Broadway previews plus that damn Miracle book.

Come to think of it I might have a complete Defiant run. Even that so tough nobody believes it exists stand alone Plasm #0.

Rocket2600 · Post by **Rocket2600** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:19 pm

Whatcha missin' ? Hmmmmm ?

http://www.comiccovers.net/Lightning_Wanted01.html

I have 23 more to go if number 6 on the list was published. Can not get a confirm from any source as of yet. I have spoken with Trent Kaniuga (artist) and Joseph Zyskowski (publisher) and neither can remember if that "subscriber hybrid" as advertised, was indeed published.

GJB · Post by **GJB** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:11 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.

The guy who owns New Dimensions Comics has at least 15 to 20 long boxes of Eclipse comics at one of his stores. Maybe more.

He said he bought them from a woman who was storing them in her barn. Somehow, she got a hold of them when Eclipse shut it down.

If you need some books, I can take a look for you. LMK, they're all a buck a piece.

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:53 am

GJB wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.
The guy who owns New Dimensions Comics has at least 15 to 20 long boxes of Eclipse comics at one of his stores. Maybe more.

He said he bought them from a woman who was storing them in her barn. Somehow, she got a hold of them when Eclipse shut it down.

If you need some books, I can take a look for you. LMK, they're all a buck a piece.

Wish I'd known before assembling my DNAgents and New Wave sets (still incomplete BTW).

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:57 am

leonmallett wrote:
GJB wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.
The guy who owns New Dimensions Comics has at least 15 to 20 long boxes of Eclipse comics at one of his stores. Maybe more.

He said he bought them from a woman who was storing them in her barn. Somehow, she got a hold of them when Eclipse shut it down.

If you need some books, I can take a look for you. LMK, they're all a buck a piece.
Wish I'd known before assembling my DNAgents and New Wave sets (still incomplete BTW).

I have been contemplating DNAgents for the LONGEST time. They any good ? What is the issue run ?

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:08 am

Knightt wrote:
leonmallett wrote:
GJB wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.
The guy who owns New Dimensions Comics has at least 15 to 20 long boxes of Eclipse comics at one of his stores. Maybe more.

He said he bought them from a woman who was storing them in her barn. Somehow, she got a hold of them when Eclipse shut it down.

If you need some books, I can take a look for you. LMK, they're all a buck a piece.
Wish I'd known before assembling my DNAgents and New Wave sets (still incomplete BTW).
I have been contemplating DNAgents for the LONGEST time. They any good ? What is the issue run ?

Volume 1 runs to 24 and I owned roughly 1-17 when I was a teenager. Good stuff, not flashy slam-bang like say Marvel at the time. Villains were a bit lame at times but I really enjoyed the book. Volume two (New DNAgents) runs to 17 issues. The series was mature rather than cartoony and not too soap opera-y. There was a romance between one of the characters and an older guy (Crossfire) and the characters were diverse in personality (although not culturally). There were corporate machinations and one of the issues utilises the poem 'Casey at the Bat' (or a homage - haven't re-read the issue yet to be sure, and I originally read it like 20 years ago - yikes!

). Will meuginot's art was great but not all the way through the second volume. At least one issue was published by Antartic Press (which i have, B and W) maybe more.

I'd hate to try and judge a fellow fan's tastes, but I think it could be a book you would like to read.

I know it is wiki, but anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_DNAgents

Rocket2600 · Post by **Rocket2600** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:15 pm

Without a doubt, the best cover of the series.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/ ... ents24.jpg

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:43 pm

GJB wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.
The guy who owns New Dimensions Comics has at least 15 to 20 long boxes of Eclipse comics at one of his stores. Maybe more.

He said he bought them from a woman who was storing them in her barn. Somehow, she got a hold of them when Eclipse shut it down.

If you need some books, I can take a look for you. LMK, they're all a buck a piece.

That woman was someone who worked for or with Eclipse when it was open...or her husband did...she wasn't very clear.

I know exactly who that woman is...in fact, I remember the auction on eBay....I talked to the woman on the phone quite a bit...didn't win the auction, though....she lives in Guerneville, CA (in the area), and that, of course, was where Eclipse published.

The only Eclipse books that are really "worth" anything are Miracleman #10-24, Rocketeer Special #1 (and that can be found for $1 or so) and Groo Special #1. The rest of the Eclipse books aren't desirable enough, even if they are quite rare, to be worth anything.

Look for 1991-1993 books.

And New Dimension isn't stupid...they pulled the "valuable books" before they made them available to the public. They even took the Miracleman books, hotstamped 'em, and then called them "Archive Editions"...which is lame, they're not official variants..but that didn't stop them from asking $100-$200 for them. LAME.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:58 pm

Rocket2600 wrote:Without a doubt, the best cover of the series.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/ ... ents24.jpg

Well of course, look who it's by...

GJB · Post by **GJB** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:17 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote: And New Dimension isn't stupid...they pulled the "valuable books" before they made them available to the public. They even took the Miracleman books, hotstamped 'em, and then called them "Archive Editions"...which is lame, they're not official variants..but that didn't stop them from asking $100-$200 for them. LAME.

I never asked about the Miracleman books and the stamps. I just assumed they were special covers from Eclipse. I'll have to ask Todd how many he's sold over the years.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:06 pm

GJB wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote: And New Dimension isn't stupid...they pulled the "valuable books" before they made them available to the public. They even took the Miracleman books, hotstamped 'em, and then called them "Archive Editions"...which is lame, they're not official variants..but that didn't stop them from asking $100-$200 for them. LAME.
I never asked about the Miracleman books and the stamps. I just assumed they were special covers from Eclipse. I'll have to ask Todd how many he's sold over the years.

I was gonna guess that his name was Todd.

Nah, ND took the overstock of MMs #17-22ish, plus MM Apocrypha 1-3, and I think 3-D #1, and foil stamped 'em...too funny.

I have one of 'em, I think I paid $3 for it.

Yeah, that's right, it was in that variant collection I bought in the Bay Area. $3 it was!

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:53 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:Eclipse is a BRUTALLY hard DU to collect, because they printed some spectacular rarities....Miracleman not least among them...

Pacific Comics is also a very tough DU to put together.

While up in Tucson today, I stumbled upon a shop that had an INCREDIBLE amount of Eclipse comics... I mean A LOT. I go up to Tucson once a month and will be more than willing to stop back in there with a list of books to pick up for someone. The store charges $1.00 plus AZ tax of course. Or if there are some 'key' issues that one should 'pick up' I could do that as well but I'm telling ya... this place must have 15 boxes of the stuff, not to mention what they have in the actual sell boxes, but these are marked clearance = $1.00

LMK

JohnnyRnR · Post by **JohnnyRnR** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:43 pm

I've seen quite a few of the foil stamped MM's. Never any of the "blue" or "gold" #1's though. Mostly I've seen the Gaiman run and Apocrypha with the stamps, also COA's and signatures.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:04 pm

JohnnyRnR wrote:I've seen quite a few of the foil stamped MM's. Never any of the "blue" or "gold" #1's though. Mostly I've seen the Gaiman run and Apocrypha with the stamps, also COA's and signatures.

You see the Gaiman run and Apoc, because that's what ND bought. Most of the original copies that Eclipse had of #1-16 WERE destroyed in the flood of '93.

The Blues and the Golds are "originals"....they were "hot off the press" in 1985 and were taken to SDCC and specifically made BY Eclipse for the con. They were sold/given out (not sure on this one) at the con there. I've heard $20 thrown around, but that seems AWFULLY high.

Man.

What I would have given.

Just for the record...the blue and gold refers to the color of the "COA"....the only thing that happened to the books were that they were signed, and in the case of the golds, numbered.