Ninjak Color artwork - Quesada/Palmiotti first Ninjak piece

Finneal · Post by **Finneal** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:52 pm

I'm selling this for $350 +shipping. It is the color art of what Quesada did for the many published ads hyping Ninjak before it was published. This appeared in full page ads in most comics magazines and in many Valiant comics. The 1st huge scan may take a litle bit to load up but is worth seeing. It comes in the purple matte/frame shown.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:55 pm

Love that picture

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:32 pm

Quesada at his finest, very cool piece.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:43 pm

Red x can you repost the image?

childres · Post by **childres** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:37 pm

Cool art! I think the inks to this image is owned by david_abuq who uses it as his avatar. I always thought the inks were awesome, but the color art really bring out all the neat details!

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:29 pm

That's a pretty sweet piece of art. I hope to do my taxes this weekend. Maybe I'll be able to afford it.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:31 pm

david_albuq wrote:That's a pretty sweet piece of art. I hope to do my taxes this weekend. Maybe I'll be able to afford it.

That would be pretty damn cool to see those on one wall together.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:41 pm

Wow. That is amazing...very nice scan by the way

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:42 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
david_albuq wrote:That's a pretty sweet piece of art. I hope to do my taxes this weekend. Maybe I'll be able to afford it.
That would be pretty damn cool to see those on one wall together.

Sure would...but I'd be happy enough just with the original pencils

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:44 pm

The colour art is really nice and I've been told that VALIANT colours do fetch a pretty good price...higher than other companies since the style is a bit more unique....but anybody think $350 is a bit pricey for some colours on a stat?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:45 am

cobra_commander wrote:The colour art is really nice and I've been told that VALIANT colours do fetch a pretty good price...higher than other companies since the style is a bit more unique....but anybody think $350 is a bit pricey for some colours on a stat?

Since it is such a beautiful piece of classic early Quesada, that might make the difference for someone in this case.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:55 am

If it were ANY other Valiant color art I might feel it was a bit pricey. Quesada/Jimmy's Ninjak postcard is cool too. Since I have the original pencils, $350 isn't too too high.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:06 pm

david_albuq wrote:If it were ANY other VALIANT color art I might feel it was a bit pricey. Quesada/Jimmy's Ninjak postcard is cool too. Since I have the original pencils, $350 isn't too too high.

Yeah, itd probably look pretty cool framed next to each other...hope you grab it DA.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:34 pm

I have to pipe in, I too thought $350 is a bit for the color sheet. I have a few color sheets (nothing this nice), but $350, OUCH! But hey, the actual price is what someone is willing to pay....I'd love to buy it, but not at $350

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:28 pm

Squirrel wrote:I have to pipe in, I too thought $350 is a bit for the color sheet. I have a few color sheets (nothing this nice), but $350, OUCH! But hey, the actual price is what someone is willing to pay....I'd love to buy it, but not at $350

You could get some REALLY nice original pencil/ inks for that price...REALLY nice...

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:51 am

I am in no way questioning the integrity of the seller, but how does one know that this is really the original color? Honest question here folks.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:24 am

Rufusharley wrote:I am in no way questioning the integrity of the seller, but how does one know that this is really the original color? Honest question here folks.

I'll try to give a general answer.

Provenance is the only sure way, but that's almost impossible. Especially for color art where normal art return was not part of the artists' contract.

So one has to judge the art itself and make a game of odds. First thing to check is of course that it is something painted and not a copy. That's so fundamental that we can skip it.

So it comes down to comparing the original to what is printed. As Valiant prnted straight from the color originals that should be easy. Right? Wrong. First of all the colors don't reproduce exactly. The original always is more vivid, but for different colors it can be more or less of a difference.

Also, there could still be some tweaking after the original had been scanned. I've seen one case where an ink line forgotten on both th eink and color originals does exist in printed form.

And if the original has been exposed to even the slightest bit of sunshine it will have faded. Especially the blue colors.

So one has to look for areas that are clearly painted in a different way. Like if a bit of paint has bled in the printed version, but not on the original you are checking, or if a shade falls in a completely different way.

Take Magnus 0 and card 1 of the Valiant Era for example. The artist who repainted the card made a wonderful job of emulating the comic. Very skillful. But there are some tell-tale differences.

That the shading on the buckle is darker on the card means nothing. But that the color of the tunic goes into Magnus right arm on the comic, but not on the card, that is a very strong indication that there has been two different originals.

In the end it comes down to experience. This seller btw has that experience. But it is always up to the buyer to estimate what he is buying.

/Magnus

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:36 am

Thanks magnusr.

One more question. What kind of 'paint' is used in origional colors? The medium..like oil, enamel, water color, marker. Or is a combination of mediums used? I always wondered how colors were done.

Is this already in the 'Art' section? Maybe i should check there.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:44 am

Rufusharley wrote:Thanks magnusr.

One more question. What kind of 'paint' is used in origional colors? The medium..like oil, enamel, water color, marker. Or is a combination of mediums used? I always wondered how colors were done.

Is this already in the 'Art' section? Maybe i should check there.

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Doc Martin's watercolors was the main kind of paint used.

/Magnus

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:32 am

I don't have the original ink of this piece as it is being stored at my friend Mike's house for the moment. But I do remember certain aspects of the inking of this piece. Those "little things" are apparent in this colored piece.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:58 pm

It's a great scan of the piece, that's for sure. I would imagine if someone were to try and pass off non original stuff, they surely would not post such a detailed scan.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:15 pm

Since I'll be owing $1,500 in Fed/State taxes this year instead of getting back the same amount, I will not be able to purchase this beautiful piece of art.

If it's still around in a six months or a year and I get a substantial raise or the new job I hope I get, I'll revisit purchasing the Ninjak color promo.