Spiderman's "new" costume

The Spider · Post by **The Spider** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:57 pm

Kino wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:Spidey's new costume...

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/storie ... .htm?id=67

Okay, I know they never say these things are temporary because they're trying to get readers who don't know better to buy the thing but, c'mon, we've around the block few times here. Anyone want to take bets on how long Spidey will be in his "new" costume?
Please say it ain't so......that costume looks like a bad ripoff of spiderwoman's costume.

That's funny considering his black costume is similar to Spider-Woman II's costume. Now all he needs are new costumes based on the Byrne-created Spider-Woman's.

dave · Post by **dave** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:12 am

wolverine always helps to sell a cover, why not make a wolverine-spiderman hybrid costume? that would be SO original-somebody gimme q's phone number, i bet he'll hire me...

this reminds me of something...hmmm how about a foil enhanced cover to show off magnus' new costume that gives him "more muscle". we all know how well that worked...

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:01 pm

Well if Iron Man and Spider-Man ever have a child its a great look otherwise it sucks. I hope it doesn't last that long.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:10 pm

This new costume is really killing my enjoyment of Spider-Man lately (I only get ASM). It's just so lame. I've loved JMS's run on ASM but I'm not enjoying the current issues solely because of this costume. The crapiness of the costume is so distracting, I can't even tell you what happened last issue.

It's not written well for one thing. Other than the black costume, he's wore the red & blues (with slight variations but basically the same design) since high school. He shows up wearing this goudy red and gold costume and he's instantly recognized by the cops - in a world full of people wearing goudy costumes and new people wearing goudy costumes appearing every day? He doesn't look like Spider-Man. He doesn't act like Spider-Man. But everybody still just knows he is Spider-Man.

And it goes against the character of Peter to be so gung-ho about this costume. Spider-Man has always been about what strong character and determination can accomplish. Not gadgets. Not armor. This isn't Spider-Man. This is "The Iron Spider."

I want Spider-Man back, dangit.

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:49 am

I couldn't agree more. But I think we will have to wait until after this Civil War before we get him back.

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:29 pm

Heath wrote:
I want Spider-Man back, dangit.

I think Peter is going to be making some tough choices during the civil war and I think the accepting/not accepting the Iron Spider costume is going to be a part of it.

I agree about him being recognized but he has been through a hell of a lot and right now he looks up to Tony as a father figure. His wife and Aunt are living in Avengers Tower so his life is pretty tied in with Iron Man.

That is why I don't see him being so accepting as against character at this point. Either way I am enjoying all the issues so far

Vault-Keeper · Post by **Vault-Keeper** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:27 pm

Marvel comics are dead to me.

They can issue a million variants, all signed by Stan Lee, and I couldn't care less.

Titles like Ultimate Spider-Man are for those who have no idea what the glory days of real comics were all about. Don't b!tch at me if you happen to like such titles. I'm not slamming you OR your tastes. I'm just an old fart who actually remembers what a thrill it was to come home with a stack of GREAT stories with NEW villains that only cost from 12¢ to 25¢ each. What a blast it was to be a Marvel junkie, bringing home 20 to 30 titles a month all for under $10!!! I actually pity any collectors who have NO IDEA what a great feeling that was... Sweet Jesus, what has happened to our hobby??? <sigh>

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:07 pm

I have to agree. I am iold enough that I remember those 12 cent and 15 cent issues. I still collect a lot of comics and as a reviewer of comics I get a lot of free ones not from Marvel of course. I pick up a half dozen Marvel titles but they are no where near as good as they once were. The stories and art just don't have that same magic anymore.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:49 am

Heath wrote:This new costume is really killing my enjoyment of Spider-Man lately (I only get ASM). It's just so lame. I've loved JMS's run on ASM but I'm not enjoying the current issues solely because of this costume. The crapiness of the costume is so distracting, I can't even tell you what happened last issue.

It's not written well for one thing. Other than the black costume, he's wore the red & blues (with slight variations but basically the same design) since high school. He shows up wearing this goudy red and gold costume and he's instantly recognized by the cops - in a world full of people wearing goudy costumes and new people wearing goudy costumes appearing every day? He doesn't look like Spider-Man. He doesn't act like Spider-Man. But everybody still just knows he is Spider-Man.

And it goes against the character of Peter to be so gung-ho about this costume. Spider-Man has always been about what strong character and determination can accomplish. Not gadgets. Not armor. This isn't Spider-Man. This is "The Iron Spider."

I want Spider-Man back, dangit.

Spiderman wouldn't be recognized by the cops just because he has different colors on and no webbing? The head to toe body suit with a big spider on his chest and the bug eyes (plus the use of his powers) wouldn't clue them in? People aren't that dense in the Marvel Universe. You must be thinking about the DCU

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:06 am

Vault-Keeper wrote:Marvel comics are dead to me.

They can issue a million variants, all signed by Stan Lee, and I couldn't care less.

Titles like Ultimate Spider-Man are for those who have no idea what the glory days of real comics were all about. Don't b!tch at me if you happen to like such titles. I'm not slamming you OR your tastes. I'm just an old fart who actually remembers what a thrill it was to come home with a stack of GREAT stories with NEW villains that only cost from 12¢ to 25¢ each. What a blast it was to be a Marvel junkie, bringing home 20 to 30 titles a month all for under $10!!! I actually pity any collectors who have NO IDEA what a great feeling that was... Sweet Jesus, what has happened to our hobby??? <sigh>

Are you kidding? At many retailers, if you wait a couple monthes, you can get this week's Marvel comics for 25 cent a pop

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:44 am

Todd Luck wrote:Spiderman wouldn't be recognized by the cops just because he has different colors on and no webbing? The head to toe body suit with a big spider on his chest and the bug eyes (plus the use of his powers) wouldn't clue them in? People aren't that dense in the Marvel Universe. You must be thinking about the DCU

But if Spider-Man was the only kid in town with a flashy outfit and powers, who changed his costume frequently, then maybe they should recognize a change. But he's not. The Marvel universe is crawling with people like that. New guys popping up all the time. Plus, we've already got Spider Woman, there was the Scarlet Spider, Venom & Carnage, etc. There is plenty of precendent for characters other than Spider-Man using a spider theme or having a similar appearance. Spider-Man doesn't have a monopoly on the spider symbol. So why would the assumption be that anybody wearing a spider on their suit is Spider-Man - regardless of there being no other similarities at all to the real Spider-Man?

I just think it was stretching things a bit far. It's one of those little minor things about this new costume that has bothered me ever since.

In the scene in question, a cop says something to thug along the lines of "Better be careful, that's Spider-Man!"

A more realistic (and I use that term lightly considering the subject matter!) approach to that dialog would have been something like:

Cop: "Better be careful, that's...uhm..."

Spider-Man: "Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man!"

Cop (to Spidey): "Spider-Man?"

Cop (to thug): "That's Spider-Man."

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:27 pm

Wasn't there something said that this new costume would be able to change it's design at will (at some point, anyways?) Ever since the black costume was introduced (and before it "became" Venom) I always thought that Spidey should wear the red-and-blue during the day and his black costume at night.

That's just me, though.....

-slym

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:08 pm

slym2none wrote:I always thought that Spidey should wear the red-and-blue during the day and his black costume at night.

-slym

I wear my sunglasses at night . . .

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:59 pm

slym2none wrote:Wasn't there something said that this new costume would be able to change it's design at will (at some point, anyways?) Ever since the black costume was introduced (and before it "became" Venom) I always thought that Spidey should wear the red-and-blue during the day and his black costume at night.

That's just me, though.....

-slym

Yes, his suit is so high tech that he can morph into several designs - or even become invisible! There was a sequence where Peter was standing in front of the mirror in the new suit in the first frame. Second frame was the red & blues. Next was Peter in street clothes. Next was the black costume. All was actually the new suit changing the way it looked.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu May 18, 2006 4:26 pm

Heath wrote:Yes, his suit is so high tech that he can morph into several designs - or even become invisible!

Sweet! Then maybe these classics will make a big comeback!
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alsactio ... iants2.jpg

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:34 pm

Lets just hope this costume fades away never to be seen or heard of again after the Civil War. Or better yet give it to a clone of Spider-Man? (SARCASTIC remark).
I like the original costume with the original Spider-Man in it. All these gadgets just take away from his character.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:55 pm

slym2none wrote:Wasn't there something said that this new costume would be able to change it's design at will (at some point, anyways?) Ever since the black costume was introduced (and before it "became" Venom) I always thought that Spidey should wear the red-and-blue during the day and his black costume at night.

That's just me, though.....

-slym

And when he's in the jungle he wear a camouflaged spider suit and when it's snowy he can wear a white spider suit and...

You must be the guy who came up with all those Batman figures in the 90's (look it's Artic Batman!)

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:57 pm

Heath wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:Spiderman wouldn't be recognized by the cops just because he has different colors on and no webbing? The head to toe body suit with a big spider on his chest and the bug eyes (plus the use of his powers) wouldn't clue them in? People aren't that dense in the Marvel Universe. You must be thinking about the DCU
But if Spider-Man was the only kid in town with a flashy outfit and powers, who changed his costume frequently, then maybe they should recognize a change. But he's not. The Marvel universe is crawling with people like that. New guys popping up all the time. Plus, we've already got Spider Woman, there was the Scarlet Spider, Venom & Carnage, etc. There is plenty of precendent for characters other than Spider-Man using a spider theme or having a similar appearance. Spider-Man doesn't have a monopoly on the spider symbol. So why would the assumption be that anybody wearing a spider on their suit is Spider-Man - regardless of there being no other similarities at all to the real Spider-Man?

I just think it was stretching things a bit far. It's one of those little minor things about this new costume that has bothered me ever since.

In the scene in question, a cop says something to thug along the lines of "Better be careful, that's Spider-Man!"

A more realistic (and I use that term lightly considering the subject matter!) approach to that dialog would have been something like:

Cop: "Better be careful, that's...uhm..."

Spider-Man: "Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man!"

Cop (to Spidey): "Spider-Man?"

Cop (to thug): "That's Spider-Man."

Thug (to cops): Really? With that costume, I thought it was Spiderwoman.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri May 19, 2006 2:01 am

Todd Luck wrote:
slym2none wrote:Wasn't there something said that this new costume would be able to change it's design at will (at some point, anyways?) Ever since the black costume was introduced (and before it "became" Venom) I always thought that Spidey should wear the red-and-blue during the day and his black costume at night.

That's just me, though.....

-slym
And when he's in the jungle he wear a camouflaged spider suit and when it's snowy he can wear a white spider suit and...

You must be the guy who came up with all those Batman figures in the 90's (look it's Artic Batman!)

Ouch.

I just like the black costume almost as much as the red-and-blue, that's all.

-slym (never said no nothin' about white and camo...)

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:22 am

I kinda liked the black version. But traditional red and blue is what I want long term.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:00 am

C'mon Slim you know Artic Blast Spiderman would rock

Anyway all kidding aside, a general response to the thread: I balked at the costume before the issues came out but now that I'm reading the comic with the new costume in it I don't even notice it unless Spidey's using one of it's abilities (the gags with the arms were funny).

And of course there's a lot more going on in that book than a costume and the costume is a temporary part of a current storyline (how can have anyone doubt that Pete and Tony Stark will be parting ways soon after the ending of last issue?)

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Fri May 19, 2006 10:45 am

Obviously they will be. But having Peter playing secretary to Tony or Spider-Man being Iron Man's flunky just doesn't seem right.

dave · Post by **dave** » Fri May 19, 2006 2:40 pm

yeah he should at least be his personal assistant...

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:44 pm

dave wrote:yeah he should at least be his personal assistant...

He's more than a personal assistant...

Stark in Amazing Spiderman 529:

"I want to hire you out in the open full-time as my second, my protege...I want you to go where I go, see what I see, hear what I hear. I need someone I trust implicitly to back me up."

It's the culmination of over a year of build-up of Peter Parker and Tony Stark as close allies and friends.

Richv1 · Post by **Richv1** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:13 pm

Someone that he trusts, but he is still lying and keeping secrets from him. Yep that sounds like he is his second. His protoge. Tony his sunk low hiring Titanuim Man to do his dirty work.

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