Questions on Bloodshot and the Visitor

[Todd Luck]

Yeah I know these are really random questions about unrelated characters (though I would've liked to see Bloodshoot beat up Visitor for being future Sting) but I thought of both of them at the same time:

1) In Visitor, I know Harbinger was Sting and Visitor was future Sting. But how did this happen? Sting was just wandering around and future Sting was in the 2900 when I last saw them. How did Harada get ahold of Sting and how did future Sting go back in time?

2) I never got the book, but was their any reason why Visitor was dubbed the most important Valiant book ever in the advanced advertising?

3) Was it ever revealed what the VH-1 Bloodshot's latent Harbinger ability is? I've always been curious.

Thanks

[myron]

Yeah I know these are really random questions about unrelated characters (though I would've liked to see Bloodshoot beat up Visitor for being future Sting) but I thought of both of them at the same time:

1) In Visitor, I know Harbinger was Sting and Visitor was future Sting. But how did this happen? Sting was just wandering around and future Sting was in the 2900 when I last saw them. How did Harada get ahold of Sting and how did future Sting go back in time?

2) I never got the book, but was their any reason why Visitor was dubbed the most important Valiant book ever in the advanced advertising?

3) Was it ever revealed what the VH-1 Bloodshot's latent Harbinger ability is? I've always been curious.

Thanks

1. don't know
2. sell hype
3. thought that is was his ability to control digital devices...isn't that what kept him from being a speedshot?

[dellamorte]

How did Harada get ahold of Sting and how did future Sting go back in time?

The first part might be answered in Visitor #8 but I can't remember. The second part was in Timewalker #? where Sting hitches a ride with Ivar back in time.

[Todd Luck]

Yeah I know these are really random questions about unrelated characters (though I would've liked to see Bloodshoot beat up Visitor for being future Sting) but I thought of both of them at the same time:

1) In Visitor, I know Harbinger was Sting and Visitor was future Sting. But how did this happen? Sting was just wandering around and future Sting was in the 2900 when I last saw them. How did Harada get ahold of Sting and how did future Sting go back in time?

2) I never got the book, but was their any reason why Visitor was dubbed the most important Valiant book ever in the advanced advertising?

3) Was it ever revealed what the VH-1 Bloodshot's latent Harbinger ability is? I've always been curious.

Thanks

Come on, I know someone on this board has read these books and still remembers them. Help me out, guys.

[ManofTheAtom]

1.- Unrevealed

2.- Hype sells

3.- He could talk with machines, which is why the nanites probably didn't kill him.

[Todd Luck]

1.- Unrevealed

2.- Hype sells

3.- He could talk with machines, which is why the nanites probably didn't kill him.

Unrevealed?!? What did they do for the last umpteen issues of the Visitor?

Didn't Bloodshot's ability to talk to machines come from the blood? That's where they said Rai got his machine controlling power from. According to Spylocke, Rai survived the nanites because he had a latent Harbinger power (which was manipulating people's beliefs and emotions). In other words, any Harbingers could have survived the blood.

[ManofTheAtom]

You're right, I'll have to recheck that last issue of Visitor to know if it says what happened. I've only read it once.

As for Bloodshot and Rai.

I believe that Rai's ability to talk to machines was Bloodshot's ability, which he inherited thanks to the Blood of Heroes.

[Todd Luck]

As for Bloodshot and Rai.

I believe that Rai's ability to talk to machines was Bloodshot's ability, which he inherited thanks to the Blood of Heroes.

The blood took Bloodshot's Harbinger ability and passed it on to other people? Do you have any idea were this was stated? You think something that important would have been stated early on in either series.

[Vault-Keeper]

At the time the Valiant Continuity Bible was printed in 1993, it stated that Bloodshot was a latent Harbinger, who's power was yet to be revealed. So controlling machines was NOT his true Harbinger power.

[Todd Luck]

At the time the Valiant Continuity Bible was printed in 1993, it stated that Bloodshot was a latent Harbinger, who's power was yet to be revealed. So controlling machines was NOT his true Harbinger power.

Thank you. It's a "He's got a power, we're just not sure what it is right now" sort of thing . Does anyone know if they ever revealed it?

Anyone got an answer to my Visitor question?

I don't suppose Kevin Vanhook is still around the board...

[Vault-Keeper]

Kevin is in here when he's not busy with his film work. He probably would be the best to ask, since he was responsible for alot of the character development of both Bloodshot & The Visitor.

Right now he has some great original colors used in a couple of Bloodshot issues, & a cool Bloodshot/Batman sketch for sale on ebay. Check his post under Buy/Sell/Trade. I've bought 9 Solar pages from him, & both he and his wife, Carol, signed the pages for me! Carol was the colorist on these pages. The pages I bought were mainly from Valiant Vision issues, & it's unbelieveable how much brighter the original colors are compared to the printed comic. Kevin said his wife had to wear glasses for 6 months after coloring the Valiant Vision pages, due to eye strain. Ouch!---Steve G

[Shakespeare]

Secrets of the Valiant Universe #1 says that his Harbinger ability is to control machines...that's why the nanites didn't turn him into a speedshot.

The nanites did indeed absorb his Harbinger ability and passed it onto Rai (of the Future Force)

[Todd Luck]

Secrets of the Valiant Universe #1 says that his Harbinger ability is to control machines...that's why the nanites didn't turn him into a speedshot.

The nanites did indeed absorb his Harbinger ability and passed it onto Rai (of the Future Force)

Thanks. That's really wierd. It's ashame no one told the writers who were doing the first year or so of Rai and Bloodshot . If the blood simulates the Harbinger powers of everyone who had it, and it could only be used by Harbingers (which makes even less sense with that revelation added to it), imagine if the book had kept going and the Blood had gown though several more users. By the time you got to the 75th Rai, he would have been invincible!

[Jaknife]

not just harbingers. the blood would have given anyone the ability to control machines. there was really nothing special about the particular nanites in bloodshots blood. they were the same kind as the other nanites. his blood became the blood of heroes because it had absorbed his harbinger power. therefore, since it gives off the power to the person its inside, then anyone could have used his blood. as for rai and spylocke not knowing the nanites werent responsible for the machne controlling power, there was a 2000 year time difference between bloodshot and rai. information can be twisted and mutated over 2000 years.

[Shakespeare]

Before the board crash, I had (mostly correctly) theorized about Bloodshot's blood. Kevin VanHook was nice enough to write me and clarify everything.

For what it's worth, here's an answer to your Bloodshot question on the
Valiantcomics.com board.

Bloodshot's Harbinger ability was to control machines. The trauma of
having his blood replaced popped the power. He, of course thought it was
the nanites.

Ax is a Harbinger, too and is gambling that he could survive.

Once the nanites are outside of his body (in my stories), they
self-terminated. The ones inside his plasma self-replicated.

Best,
Kevin VanHook

Thanks, Kevin!

[Todd Luck]

not just harbingers. the blood would have given anyone the ability to control machines. there was really nothing special about the particular nanites in bloodshots blood. they were the same kind as the other nanites. his blood became the blood of heroes because it had absorbed his harbinger power. therefore, since it gives off the power to the person its inside, then anyone could have used his blood. as for rai and spylocke not knowing the nanites werent responsible for the machne controlling power, there was a 2000 year time difference between bloodshot and rai. information can be twisted and mutated over 2000 years.

Maybe he was mixing up using the Blood of Heroes with using time portals in the Valiant universe Seems like eventually everything in the entire Valiant universe required a Harbinger or necromatic energy to make it work

[Todd Luck]

Before the board crash, I had (mostly correctly) theorized about Bloodshot's blood. Kevin VanHook was nice enough to write me and clarify everything.

For what it's worth, here's an answer to your Bloodshot question on the
Valiantcomics.com board.

Bloodshot's Harbinger ability was to control machines. The trauma of
having his blood replaced popped the power. He, of course thought it was
the nanites.

Ax is a Harbinger, too and is gambling that he could survive.

Once the nanites are outside of his body (in my stories), they
self-terminated. The ones inside his plasma self-replicated.

Best,
Kevin VanHook

Thanks, Kevin!

Thanks. If Vanhook says it it must be true I still can't believe so few people read the last few Visitor issues and the ones who did have forgotten them! The issues can't be that bad if Vanhook was at the helm (if I had noticed he was writing them when they came out I would've atleast given them a try, I always found Kevin's stories interesting)