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IMissValiant · Post by **IMissValiant** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:39 am

magnus, did u win it? is it color art or 3m?

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:13 am

IMissValiant wrote:magnus, did u win it? is it color art or 3m?

I'll let you know when I get it. I think it is colored ink art. Ernie Colon did some issues where both ink and color art is on the same page. Often painted panel by panel and then pasted onto the same board. They usually go for around $100, but as we know there's no rules in valuing unique items.

/Magnus

xoken · Post by **xoken** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:18 pm

magnusr wrote:
IMissValiant wrote:magnus, did u win it? is it color art or 3m?
I'll let you know when I get it. I think it is colored ink art. Ernie Colon did some issues where both ink and color art is on the same page. Often painted panel by panel and then pasted onto the same board. They usually go for around $100, but as we know there's no rules in valuing unique items.

/Magnus

No rules at all. I paid $350 for a page once. I was very happy with it but eventually had to let it go in a trade

The auction looks to be he real deal, congrats Magnus

IMissValiant · Post by **IMissValiant** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:26 pm

damn. it looks so much like 3m. i would've bid on it if it were real. see here's another example of sellers not knowing their market. If i were selling it, I'd damn make sure I stated it was not 3m.

VanHook · Post by **VanHook** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:08 am

I'm only going by the little pic, but it looks like the original to me. Those registration marks are from Production (scott friedlander himself probably stuck those on...) You wouldn't see the "color" of the registration mark tape showing if it were a 3M. And the lettering is clearly cut out and laid on top. There's some shadowing, something you wouldn't see in a color proof made from the film, because that would just be an additional black plate.

Sorry I didn't notice this discussion earlier.

KV

IMissValiant · Post by **IMissValiant** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:51 pm

kevin, thanks for the info. one day I'll own valiant art. the closest i have is the art from one of the deathmate cards -- but it's Supreme, lol.

-Kal

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:45 pm

Well, this auction wasn't "a shame", because the seller didn't know much
about comic books, and there was a near-full photo available.
(No condition stated, so I assumed the worst and paid the minimum.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6560904758

I guess the "shame" comes in with the fact that there are only about
1,200 copies of this book in existence...
(Shadowman Vol 3 #1 Variant with $3.95 cover price)
...and it's a shame that this one is now in VG condition.
...and it's a shame that it had to be rescued.

Oh well, I guess that makes the near mint ones at least 0.1% rarer.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:47 pm

greg wrote:Well, this auction wasn't "a shame", because the seller didn't know much
about comic books, and there was a near-full photo available.
(No condition stated, so I assumed the worst and paid the minimum.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6560904758

I guess the "shame" comes in with the fact that there are only about
1,200 copies of this book in existence...
(Shadowman Vol 3 #1 Variant with $3.95 cover price)
...and it's a shame that this one is now in VG condition.
...and it's a shame that it had to be rescued.

Oh well, I guess that makes the near mint ones at least 0.1% rarer.

Cool find Greg, I see the seller made the classic mistake of spelling Acclaim as "Akklaim" and does not make mention of Valiant anywhere in the description.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:43 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/VALIANT-3500-LWBs-m ... dZViewItem

Yeah... right $599 for 10 long boxes of commons and only $150 to ship. Me thinks ol' K. has gone koo-koo.

k_c_collectibles · Post by **k_c_collectibles** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:59 pm

Haven't you heard... Valiant is HOT again!!!

Well, SOME books are, but not these that is for sure!

Chris

tcolli · Post by **tcolli** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:05 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/VALIANT-3500-LWBs-m ... dZViewItem

Yeah... right $599 for 10 long boxes of commons and only $150 to ship. Me thinks ol' K. has gone koo-koo.

DO NOT BUY FROM THIS SELLER ABOVE!!!! They screwed me on a purchase a month back and never refunded or sent the correct book.

And just for desperation fact, Premier my poophole:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-5-PREMIER-CH ... dZViewItem

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:10 pm

I wasn't sure if this was the right area for this, but it seems right...

Here was the first auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6567780888

It looks like the seller wasn't 100% sure about what he had, but at least having an open ended auction meant he wouldn't get ripped off too bad, right? WRONG!

One of the many eBay Valiant Vultures saw a pigeon and couldn't wait to pounce. They offered a certain amount if the seller would end early, which he did:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6568228196

The buyer did nothing wrong except use the seller's ignorance to get a bargain. Meanwhile, the seller just lost somewhere between $50-$100 because he couldn't be patient and let the auction end. Good work, buddy!

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:15 pm

SON OF A @#$%!

I was watching that auction.

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:27 pm

i was watching it too.

oh well.

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:44 pm

Sometimes when I see something like that happen I like to email the seller just to let them know that they shot themselves in the foot

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:50 pm

i did that actually, got this response.

"Hi, thank you for your tip. I have another chaos red that I will be auctioning off soon. i will start the bidding around $50 and I hope you are right that it will go to $120. I also hope you will bid. Thanks, Tim"

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:51 pm

Please, don't educate stupid sellers.

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:08 pm

nah, i will continue to do so.

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:26 pm

*SQUEE*!

Who's that cshepeard, i see him regularly bidding on the valiant books?

I must have just missed that listing, strange...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:34 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnus-Robot-Fighte ... dZViewItem

This seller must be using an old Wizard price guide that was kept in the safe along with the Magnus 12.

Wow and Only $11.20 for shipping and required insurance.

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:42 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnus-Robot-Fighte ... dZViewItem

This seller must be using an old Wizard price guide that was kept in the safe along with the Magnus 12.

Wow and Only $11.20 for shipping and required insurance.

Note that bidding starts at $50 but that there is also a reserve.

I should bid $50 just so he thinks it is that valuable. Then he will relist it when the reserve is not met

davidb · Post by **davidb** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:51 am

If you've got an extra $50, I can hook you up with a rare, rare Turok #1 in NM condition. It's got chromium, so it's shiny!

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:01 am

davidb wrote:If you've got an extra $50, I can hook you up with a rare, rare Turok #1 in NM condition. It's got chromium, so it's shiny!

No thanks, I just received one as part of this lot:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TUROK-DINOSAUR-HUNT ... dZViewItem

I can't believe no one else bid. There are some keys in there...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:40 pm

Technique wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnus-Robot-Fighte ... dZViewItem

This seller must be using an old Wizard price guide that was kept in the safe along with the Magnus 12.

Wow and Only $11.20 for shipping and required insurance.
Note that bidding starts at $50 but that there is also a reserve.

I should bid $50 just so he thinks it is that valuable. Then he will relist it when the reserve is not met

<Dr. Evil laugh> Bwaaa Haaaa Haaaaa.... Bwaaa Haaaa Haaaaa ....

Technique · Post by **Technique** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:50 pm

greg wrote:Well, this auction wasn't "a shame", because the seller didn't know much
about comic books, and there was a near-full photo available.
(No condition stated, so I assumed the worst and paid the minimum.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6560904758

I guess the "shame" comes in with the fact that there are only about
1,200 copies of this book in existence...
(Shadowman Vol 3 #1 Variant with $3.95 cover price)
...and it's a shame that this one is now in VG condition.
...and it's a shame that it had to be rescued.

Oh well, I guess that makes the near mint ones at least 0.1% rarer.

Nice one. My search should have picked that one up. Oh well.

Did you see mine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6559540529

Certainly not NM, but a solid VF. I would have thought it would go for more since other board member bid on it. Still a great price though. I'd pay $11 for these all day long

I still think it's a $30-$50 book.

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Looks like the original to me