Unity 2000 4 - 6

justin · Post by **justin** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:28 am

Todd Luck wrote:THE SECOND LIFE OF DOCTOR MIRAGE VOLUME 2 #1
by Perham, Jadson, & Lyle
When her hushand dies under mysterious circumstances on an archeological expedition, socialite Carmen Mirage decides to do a little digging of her own to find out what really happened. What she uncovers comes like a bolt from the blue: her husband Hwen led a secret second life—as the most powerful sorcerer on Earth. It quickly becomes apparent that the dark forces Hwen battled against finalIy caught up with him... and now they're after Carmen! Can she survive this evil onslaught and prevent her hushand's legacy from falling into the wrong hands?
Cover by Steven Butler and Buzz Setzer.
FC, 48pg $3.95

scheduled for 12/2000

Heres the cover to that issue Todd! Also, I will go back and read your comments, I was working and not on the web, so I will read them and address them accordingly!

And on to the cover for that issue.....

justin · Post by **justin** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:34 am

Todd Luck wrote:Anyone know what the public slanders and private threats he's talking about are?

I have no idea about the public slander either! This is just what Starlin told me via email, all of which you read in an earlier post!

-j

justin · Post by **justin** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:44 am

Knightt_333 wrote:WTF kind of weapons combination is THAT in the pic above ? Geez an antique and a modern weapon. Just leads me to believe that Valiant/Acclaim would never recover no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for sharing that pic though, Justin.

I thought that as well!! You should see Armstrong from that issue! GEEZZZZZ. He looks absolutely horrible, but CARMEN IS HOT on the first couple of pages in a teddy!

-j

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:44 am

going for 3 times in one thread? not bad for a serious thread.

~The Unblessed Soul

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:17 am

The above pic= Carmen Mirage, Tomb Raider.

architect wrote:I thought that as well!! You should see Armstrong from that issue! GEEZZZZZ. He looks absolutely horrible, but CARMEN IS HOT on the first couple of pages in a teddy!

You have actual art from the one shot? I'd like to see it.

I saw the character designs that Anthony posted on the old mailing list and they sucked.

The characters looked like they were from the Batman Animated Series by Bruce Timm, and Hwen looks like a cross between Dr. Mirage and Marvel's Dr. Strange.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:57 am

Knightt_333 wrote:WTF kind of weapons combination is THAT in the pic above ? Geez an antique and a modern weapon. Just leads me to believe that Valiant/Acclaim would never recover no matter the circumstances.

It really depends on the character.

The combo works for someone like Ivar or Gilad, but not someone like Carmen.

The look and attitude are completely Anti-Carmen.

Only Bernard Chang should draw Dr. Mirage and Carmen.

Let me put it like this:

Carmen Mirage was kicking *SQUEE* in a cocktail dress long before Jennifer "Sidney Bristow" Gardner did it.

Carmen is more Alias than Tomb Raider.

Loganfan · Post by **Loganfan** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:10 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
Only Bernard Chang should draw Dr. Mirage and Carmen.

.

RACK!!!!!

Nice call, M.

I was just glancing thru Unity 2K 1&2 the other day......did #3 ever come out?

Loganfan · Post by **Loganfan** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:13 pm

Ryan wrote:I don't think U2K was perfect, but I DO think it was the best thing Valiant put out after 1995.

I think part of the reason U2K seemed liked a DC/Marvel comic or whatever was that Shooter was parody-ing (if that's a word) the fact that Acclaim/Valiant had become so much like a regular, messy, comic booky universe.

Agreed.
I was enjoying it, even if it seemed a bit overboard.

justin · Post by **justin** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:36 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:You have actual art from the one shot? I'd like to see it.

Maybe I will post a page a day with the script!

-j

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:51 pm

Loganfan wrote: I was just glancing thru Unity 2K 1&2 the other day......did #3 ever come out?

yes, great issue too. And the last Valiant comic published so far....

architect wrote:Maybe I will post a page a day with the script!

that would be cool to see

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:07 pm

architect wrote:
Also, I will go back and read your comments, I was working and not on the web, so I will read them and address them accordingly!

You may have missed the post I was refering to on the second page (partly my fault since I helped bury it with other posts

). I was refering to the long one were I respond to what you said about Morningstar and the magic ink by quoting from the plot to U2000 and basically asking you what the heck you're talking about

.

xoken · Post by **xoken** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:14 am

bump. was enjoying this thread

davidb · Post by **davidb** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:39 am

Same here. I was really hoping that timewilltell would swing back by.

TimeWillTell · Post by **TimeWillTell** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:24 pm

I'm still here!
-TimewillTell

wrunow · Post by **wrunow** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:27 pm

davidb wrote:Same here. I was really hoping that timewilltell would swing back by.

Me too, the guy was like giving us great inside info with the leading answers to questions, I want to hear more.

TimeWillTell · Post by **TimeWillTell** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:37 pm

All you have to do is ask a queston and I'll try my best to answer.
I haven't posted anything lately because I didn't have anything worthwhile to add.
I will say this... I never really liked that Dr. Mirage cover ever since the first time I saw it. But, basically knowing that it was probably never going to be published, I didn't give it a second thought.
-TimeWillTell

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:28 pm

Ryan wrote:And the last Valiant comic published so far....

It wasn't.

It was.. urgh.. just thinking about it makes my stomach turn.

It was... urgh... imagining the art makes my head spin.

It was....

Turok Evolution!

"a puke image would go here if I had one!"

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:32 pm

TimeWillTell wrote:All you have to do is ask a queston and I'll try my best to answer.
I haven't posted anything lately because I didn't have anything worthwhile to add.
I will say this... I never really liked that Dr. Mirage cover ever since the first time I saw it. But, basically knowing that it was probably never going to be published, I didn't give it a second thought.
-TimeWillTell

Well aside from Mike puking, do you have any info/insight on
the Turok Evolution book TWT?
How did the EB games variant come about?
What were print runs & orders like? Thanks!
For what it's worth, I find it to be an interesting book.
DAN

TimeWillTell · Post by **TimeWillTell** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:02 pm

Turok Evolution... bad news.

Here's the deal. Acclaim Entertainment, in order to keep the Turok license, had to publish a comic during each extention of their contract in order to keep the license for video games. The term was coming to an end at the time Turok Evolution (the video game) was about to come out. The comic was published to meet contractual obligations... Period.

Who was the editor on that. Who was soley responsible for that?
James Perham

Turok Evolution( the game not the book) cost the jobs of a number of very good people at Acclaim.
I know of no EB Variant. The sales numbers were strange because the give-aways were high, associated with promoting the game. Direct sales were about 2,500 copies.
-TimeWillTell

TimeWillTell · Post by **TimeWillTell** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:41 pm

Sorry. You're correct. I forgot about the other cover.
It's been a while.
-TimeWill Tell

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:44 pm

Here's the original inks....

DAN

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:48 am

Welcome TWT!

It's always nice to have someone from a position of knowledge post on these boards.

Although of course, you realize that your lack of candor regarding your identity means you are obligated to dish mucho dirt (of which you have done precious little), otherwise there is no point to remaining incognito...

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:53 am

mrwoogieman wrote:Welcome TWT!

It's always nice to have someone from a position of knowledge post on these boards.

Although of course, you realize that your lack of candor regarding your identity means you are obligated to dish mucho dirt (of which you have done precious little), otherwise there is no point to remaining incognito...

..errr...yeah...

davidb · Post by **davidb** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:26 am

Hey, TWT. Good to see you're still here! One thing I'd wondered about, especially since you were around Acclaim toward the end, was the end of the line following Unity 2000. We've seen solicits for after this, (notably for the Dr. Mirage book) and Quantum & Woody issues were solicited all the way through the following March. I was curious as to what other plans were being made to reestablish Acclaim as a comics company again, and how far those plans had come before the plug was pulled.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:23 am

TimeWillTell wrote:Jim Starlin actually was paid an additional amount not as a bonus, but rather as a settlement to compensate for the late payments.

I just found another link about this.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic ... #973846894

Looks to me like a confirmation that Starlin's basic page fee was paid in full. About Shooter we have the other links. Btw, about the delays and other trouble, I wonder if Starlin himself contributed.

If you'd like to ask me anything, go ahead. I'll try to answer as best I can, when I can.

Don't know if these are appropriate questions, without knowing what you worked on... And anyway, I'm sure it would be hard to remember. But I guess it doesn't hurt to ask - how was it with the corrected art? When Starlin didn't follow the plot, some art pages for issue 1 were tweaked (like I've listed before). Was that done on paper or digitally? Who did it? Was this a factor that delayed publishing? The pages as they were published - is there physical art for that?

/Magnus