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I'll keep adding to this as I come up with more ideas.
Archer & Armstrong, four issue mini-series.
The first issue opens with Archer, Armstrong, and Geoff arriving in the Lost Land as seen at the end of Chaos Effect Omega. It also includes a reprint of Archer's appearance in Turok, Dinosaur Hunter Vol 1. #26. The issue ends with the three of them returning to Earth. But for the fact that Archer and Geoff were seen as old men in Rai #0, they could return at any point in the last 25 years...
The second issue would cover Archer's and Flamingo's wedding.
The third issue would cover the founding of the Archies.
The fourth issue would cover Aram's rescue, ending with Archer's death and funeral as seen in Rai #0.
Aram walking away from the funeral pyre would lead into an epilogue showing Aram as the Eternal Geomancer in the 41st Century reminiscing about all of this.
Indeed, thinking about it, since Rai #0 was one Geomancer telling the story of the VALIANT Universe to another Geomancer, a series of The End one-shots and minis could revolve around Aram, the Eternal Geomancer of the 41st Century, regaling people with the story of how his friend's adventures came to an end two thousand years prior as he himself learns it from the Earth herself.
Archer & Armstrong, four issue mini-series.
The first issue opens with Archer, Armstrong, and Geoff arriving in the Lost Land as seen at the end of Chaos Effect Omega. It also includes a reprint of Archer's appearance in Turok, Dinosaur Hunter Vol 1. #26. The issue ends with the three of them returning to Earth. But for the fact that Archer and Geoff were seen as old men in Rai #0, they could return at any point in the last 25 years...
The second issue would cover Archer's and Flamingo's wedding.
The third issue would cover the founding of the Archies.
The fourth issue would cover Aram's rescue, ending with Archer's death and funeral as seen in Rai #0.
Aram walking away from the funeral pyre would lead into an epilogue showing Aram as the Eternal Geomancer in the 41st Century reminiscing about all of this.
Indeed, thinking about it, since Rai #0 was one Geomancer telling the story of the VALIANT Universe to another Geomancer, a series of The End one-shots and minis could revolve around Aram, the Eternal Geomancer of the 41st Century, regaling people with the story of how his friend's adventures came to an end two thousand years prior as he himself learns it from the Earth herself.


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Armorines, three-issue mini series.
Picking up over a decade after Gunny Lewis walked away from the unit, the Armorines has grown into an international collaborative military similar to NATO charged with overseeing Homeworld security for the entire planet.
In the first issue, the Armorines successfully capture and refurbish a Spider-Alien mothership they fly to the Spider-Alien homeworld intent on exterminating the species once and for all.
Due to reasons TBD, Gunny is pulled back into the thick of it.
The first issue ends with the commandeered vessel arriving on the Spider-Alien homeworld. A battle ensues that cripples the ship, causing it to crashland and killing many of the thousands of soldiers onboard.
The second issue follows Gunny as he races across the planet to find the survivors, making allies along the way.
The third ends with Gunny detonating the bomb that destroys the planet, killing all the Spider-Aliens and Armorines along with it.
In the epilogue, Aram the Eternal Geomancer muses how the few surviving Spider-Aliens spawned new broods that later invaded Earth as seen in Magnus/Rai, with a reference to how the Destroyer ultimately ended them once and for all.
Picking up over a decade after Gunny Lewis walked away from the unit, the Armorines has grown into an international collaborative military similar to NATO charged with overseeing Homeworld security for the entire planet.
In the first issue, the Armorines successfully capture and refurbish a Spider-Alien mothership they fly to the Spider-Alien homeworld intent on exterminating the species once and for all.
Due to reasons TBD, Gunny is pulled back into the thick of it.
The first issue ends with the commandeered vessel arriving on the Spider-Alien homeworld. A battle ensues that cripples the ship, causing it to crashland and killing many of the thousands of soldiers onboard.
The second issue follows Gunny as he races across the planet to find the survivors, making allies along the way.
The third ends with Gunny detonating the bomb that destroys the planet, killing all the Spider-Aliens and Armorines along with it.
In the epilogue, Aram the Eternal Geomancer muses how the few surviving Spider-Aliens spawned new broods that later invaded Earth as seen in Magnus/Rai, with a reference to how the Destroyer ultimately ended them once and for all.


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Awesome stuff man! Excited to read more 

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We already had VH 1: The End. Iron Man was there!
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That was a comic within a comic published in the VALIANT Universe, lol.


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Will soon as I'm able.


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Citation needed.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:16 pmThat was a comic within a comic published in the VALIANT Universe, lol.
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Prior references to Marvel heroes being fictional characters in the VALIANT Universe.Chiclo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:41 pmCitation needed.ManofTheAtom wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:16 pmThat was a comic within a comic published in the VALIANT Universe, lol.


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I'm going to skip ahead a few letters.
Ninjak, 64-page one-shot.
It is the dawn of the Corporate Wars, and the terrorist organization known as Webnet has returned with a vengeance under the auspices of a mysterious new leader.
Jillian Alcott, the relatively-newly instated leader of MI-6 dispatches Colin King, aka Ninjak, to suss out who this leader is and take him out for good. To his chagrin, she forces him to take the four members of the Her Majesty's Secret Weapons with him.
Ninjak and the SWs track Webnet to their new lair, where they face up against their equal numbers in what becomes a seemingly endless gauntlet to the center of this new web. Unfortunately, along the way three of the Secret Weapons -- Sonar, Tank, and Mach -- are killed by Webnet's superiorly-armed agents, leaving only Ninjak and Para-Man II as the last two men standing.
Prevailing against the superior numbers of their enemies at a heavy cost, Ninjak and Para-Man II reach the heart of Webnet, where the latter makes a terrifying discovery -- the new leader of Webnet is none other than Colin King himself! Not as Ninjak, but as the man he has been all along -- the Weaponeer!
Colin reveals that Silk was never his nemesis, his opponent, his foe -- he was his COMPETITOR in the marketplace of selling weapons to the highest bidder.
The Ninjak persona and his affiliation with MI-6 were merely a means to an end to get rid of Silk so he could take Webnet for himself, and change it into the largest manufacturer and seller of high-grade weaponry in the world.
Through several shell companies and agents, Webnet manufactures, procurers, and sells weapons to all the corporations involved in the Corporate Wars.
War is good for business and business is booming. Just like Para-Man II's head after Colin puts a bullet through it.
In the epilogue, Aram, the Eternal Geomancer makes two revelations; the first is that Colin King died in his sleep at the age of 115 years old surrounded by his vast family -- children, wives, grand and great-grand children, etc -- as the wealthiest man in the history of the world.
The other is that, as the eyes and ears of the Earth, Geoff McHenry -- and, by extension, his successor, Yolanda -- were fully aware of everything Colin King had done, but they allowed it to happen because without his weapons the resistance against Harada and the Harbinger Foundation would have failed.
Colin was amoral, and would have had no problem continuing to sell his weapons to all the parties involved in the conflict except for the resistance had he been exposed, something the Geomancers could not risk.
Ninjak, 64-page one-shot.
It is the dawn of the Corporate Wars, and the terrorist organization known as Webnet has returned with a vengeance under the auspices of a mysterious new leader.
Jillian Alcott, the relatively-newly instated leader of MI-6 dispatches Colin King, aka Ninjak, to suss out who this leader is and take him out for good. To his chagrin, she forces him to take the four members of the Her Majesty's Secret Weapons with him.
Ninjak and the SWs track Webnet to their new lair, where they face up against their equal numbers in what becomes a seemingly endless gauntlet to the center of this new web. Unfortunately, along the way three of the Secret Weapons -- Sonar, Tank, and Mach -- are killed by Webnet's superiorly-armed agents, leaving only Ninjak and Para-Man II as the last two men standing.
Prevailing against the superior numbers of their enemies at a heavy cost, Ninjak and Para-Man II reach the heart of Webnet, where the latter makes a terrifying discovery -- the new leader of Webnet is none other than Colin King himself! Not as Ninjak, but as the man he has been all along -- the Weaponeer!
Colin reveals that Silk was never his nemesis, his opponent, his foe -- he was his COMPETITOR in the marketplace of selling weapons to the highest bidder.
The Ninjak persona and his affiliation with MI-6 were merely a means to an end to get rid of Silk so he could take Webnet for himself, and change it into the largest manufacturer and seller of high-grade weaponry in the world.
Through several shell companies and agents, Webnet manufactures, procurers, and sells weapons to all the corporations involved in the Corporate Wars.
War is good for business and business is booming. Just like Para-Man II's head after Colin puts a bullet through it.
In the epilogue, Aram, the Eternal Geomancer makes two revelations; the first is that Colin King died in his sleep at the age of 115 years old surrounded by his vast family -- children, wives, grand and great-grand children, etc -- as the wealthiest man in the history of the world.
The other is that, as the eyes and ears of the Earth, Geoff McHenry -- and, by extension, his successor, Yolanda -- were fully aware of everything Colin King had done, but they allowed it to happen because without his weapons the resistance against Harada and the Harbinger Foundation would have failed.
Colin was amoral, and would have had no problem continuing to sell his weapons to all the parties involved in the conflict except for the resistance had he been exposed, something the Geomancers could not risk.


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Timewalker, 64-page one-shot.
After centuries of what, at times, seemed like a futile fool's errand, Ivar has finally found his way to Ancient Egypt and the arms of his beloved Nefertiti.
Seeing no more need to travel through time, he swiftly destroys the temporal compass to purposely strand himself where he feels he belongs.
Unfortunately, Ivar has accidentally brought a nanovirus from the future with him that infests Egypt with ten plagues, casting him in the role of the figure history refers to as Moses!
The nanovirus affects the local flora, fauna, and environment, causing the water to turn red like blood, the local frog population to spawn in uncontrollable numbers that jump out of the Nile, lice and wild flies that infest the land and a pestilence that spreads across the livestock, boils that break out on men and animals, hail and fire that rains from the sky, locusts that devour every tree growing in the fields, clouds thick like darkness that cover the sky for three days, and a virus that kills the firstborn children of Egypt.
Cast down among the Hebrew slaves as punishment for his transgression against the Pharaoh, the living God, Ivar incites a revolt to lead the slaves and Nefertiti to safety from the plagues on the other side of the Red Sea.
Reworking the pieces of the temporal compass into a staff that allows him to control the nanovirus, Ivar uses it to perform miraculous feats, like turning the staff into a snake and part the Red Sea to allow himself, Nefertiti and the slaves to cross to the other side, then close it to drown their pursuers.
The nanovirus allows Ivar to remove his immortality so he may grow old and die alongside Nefertiti, which they do in complete isolation from the world.
In the epilogue, we learn that the person Aram, the Eternal Geomancer, has been regaling with his stories is none other than his older brother, Ivar. Their time together would be his last stop Ivar makes before he returns to Egypt. Aram informs Ivar that he became infected with the airborne nanovirus -- a creation of the Psi-Lords they released into Earth's atmosphere -- the moment he arrived in the 41st Century due to lacking the proper inoculation against it. Though their immortality protects them against naturally-occurring bacteria and viruses, it can't stop a man-made nanovirus,
After centuries of what, at times, seemed like a futile fool's errand, Ivar has finally found his way to Ancient Egypt and the arms of his beloved Nefertiti.
Seeing no more need to travel through time, he swiftly destroys the temporal compass to purposely strand himself where he feels he belongs.
Unfortunately, Ivar has accidentally brought a nanovirus from the future with him that infests Egypt with ten plagues, casting him in the role of the figure history refers to as Moses!
The nanovirus affects the local flora, fauna, and environment, causing the water to turn red like blood, the local frog population to spawn in uncontrollable numbers that jump out of the Nile, lice and wild flies that infest the land and a pestilence that spreads across the livestock, boils that break out on men and animals, hail and fire that rains from the sky, locusts that devour every tree growing in the fields, clouds thick like darkness that cover the sky for three days, and a virus that kills the firstborn children of Egypt.
Cast down among the Hebrew slaves as punishment for his transgression against the Pharaoh, the living God, Ivar incites a revolt to lead the slaves and Nefertiti to safety from the plagues on the other side of the Red Sea.
Reworking the pieces of the temporal compass into a staff that allows him to control the nanovirus, Ivar uses it to perform miraculous feats, like turning the staff into a snake and part the Red Sea to allow himself, Nefertiti and the slaves to cross to the other side, then close it to drown their pursuers.
The nanovirus allows Ivar to remove his immortality so he may grow old and die alongside Nefertiti, which they do in complete isolation from the world.
In the epilogue, we learn that the person Aram, the Eternal Geomancer, has been regaling with his stories is none other than his older brother, Ivar. Their time together would be his last stop Ivar makes before he returns to Egypt. Aram informs Ivar that he became infected with the airborne nanovirus -- a creation of the Psi-Lords they released into Earth's atmosphere -- the moment he arrived in the 41st Century due to lacking the proper inoculation against it. Though their immortality protects them against naturally-occurring bacteria and viruses, it can't stop a man-made nanovirus,


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Well, I was having fun with this thread and thought others were too, but over on FB I've been called all kind of things for posting here and there, so I think I'll be stopping it.


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At least I had fun reading your posts.ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:24 pm Well, I was having fun with this thread and thought others were too.
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Thanks. Maybe I'll continue them at some point in the future, once I've gotten over the anger incited by the abuse I got over on FB for my posts.magnusr wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:35 amAt least I had fun reading your posts.ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:24 pm Well, I was having fun with this thread and thought others were too.
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Abuse? Last I saw, I said you were right and apologized. Maybe you blocked me before reading that.
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I don't have FB so I have no idea what could be said about someone doing fan fiction? It's just fan fiction, have fun with it for yourself and don't worry about what others sayManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:24 pm Well, I was having fun with this thread and thought others were too, but over on FB I've been called all kind of things for posting here and there, so I think I'll be stopping it.

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We'll see. I rejoined the community to help revive it, not to be insulted. Time will tell. Maybe I'll get back to this, maybe not. If inspiration strikes me and I'm in the mood, I might continue it. Hope to. It was fun.Ryan wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:37 amI don't have FB so I have no idea what could be said about someone doing fan fiction? It's just fan fiction, have fun with it for yourself and don't worry about what others sayManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:24 pm Well, I was having fun with this thread and thought others were too, but over on FB I've been called all kind of things for posting here and there, so I think I'll be stopping it.![]()


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Solar, Man of The Atom, 64-page one-shot.
Years after merging with the collapsing sun that threatened to destroy "Earth 2", Solar experiences a schizophrenic seizure brought on by his longing for his love-interest Gayle back on "Earth 1" that causes him to once again split himself in two like he did when the Destroyer was born.
This third iteration of Solar -- Solar 3 -- returns to Earth to be with Gayle, leaving the original version behind still merged with Earth 2's sun.
Decades after using his energies to extend Gayle's lifespan, Solar 3 experiences a seizure of his on brought on by the grief of extinguishing her life that causes him to expel a piece of himself that departs to explore other realms of existence within Unreality.
2,000 years later, Solar 3 dies defending Earth from the Spider-Aliens.
Years after merging with the collapsing sun that threatened to destroy "Earth 2", Solar experiences a schizophrenic seizure brought on by his longing for his love-interest Gayle back on "Earth 1" that causes him to once again split himself in two like he did when the Destroyer was born.
This third iteration of Solar -- Solar 3 -- returns to Earth to be with Gayle, leaving the original version behind still merged with Earth 2's sun.
Decades after using his energies to extend Gayle's lifespan, Solar 3 experiences a seizure of his on brought on by the grief of extinguishing her life that causes him to expel a piece of himself that departs to explore other realms of existence within Unreality.
2,000 years later, Solar 3 dies defending Earth from the Spider-Aliens.


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Bloodshot, 64-page one-shot.
It is the year 2028, and, as the Harbinger Wars rage on, robotics and computers are the only defense against Harada's mental powers.
At the onset of the war, the resistance commandeered an abandoned Spider-Alien base located on the dark side of Earth's Moon to use as their primary base of operations.
As the former Harbinger renegade known as Ax arrives determined to possess the Blood of Heroes before Harada can, Bloodshot and his allies work against the clock to evacuate their forces and civilian population.
In the end, however, Ax successfully kills Bloodshot and absconds with every drop of his blood.
It is the year 2028, and, as the Harbinger Wars rage on, robotics and computers are the only defense against Harada's mental powers.
At the onset of the war, the resistance commandeered an abandoned Spider-Alien base located on the dark side of Earth's Moon to use as their primary base of operations.
As the former Harbinger renegade known as Ax arrives determined to possess the Blood of Heroes before Harada can, Bloodshot and his allies work against the clock to evacuate their forces and civilian population.
In the end, however, Ax successfully kills Bloodshot and absconds with every drop of his blood.


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A commonly-asked question back in the day was why was Bloodshot's blood called the Blood of Heroes BEFORE it was injected into anyone other than Angelo Mortalli? Who were these other heroes supposed to be?
What if, in order to accommodate the ending of Bloodshot #51 into Rai #0 it turned out that Angelo did die at the end of the former and the Bloodshot that dies in the latter was someone else, one of these other heroes?
What if between the two there were many other people that were injected with Bloodshot's blood before Ax took it?
What if, in order to accommodate the ending of Bloodshot #51 into Rai #0 it turned out that Angelo did die at the end of the former and the Bloodshot that dies in the latter was someone else, one of these other heroes?
What if between the two there were many other people that were injected with Bloodshot's blood before Ax took it?


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The one that always gets me is how did scientists in the early 90s develop a nanotechnology that was so advanced that it's somehow still so cutting edge and valuable 2000 years later in a society of super high-tech robotics?ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:33 pm A commonly-asked question back in the day was why was Bloodshot's blood called the Blood of Heroes BEFORE it was injected into anyone other than Angelo Mortalli? Who were these other heroes supposed to be?
What if, in order to accommodate the ending of Bloodshot #51 into Rai #0 it turned out that Angelo did die at the end of the former and the Bloodshot that dies in the latter was someone else, one of these other heroes?
What if between the two there were many other people that were injected with Bloodshot's blood before Ax took it?
There's a lot of things that don't hold up as well as we remember, especially in post-Unity when a lot more writers got involved and a number of them were basically interns and first-timers. Doesn’t mean there isn't a lot of good and fun stuff, but it's not as airtight as you make it out to be.
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What makes that a little more believable is that it wasn't just the technology that made the blood valuable, it was also the fact that it had been affected by Bloodshot's harbinger abilities.Ryan wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:10 am The one that always gets me is how did scientists in the early 90s develop a nanotechnology that was so advanced that it's somehow still so cutting edge and valuable 2000 years later in a society of super high-tech robotics?
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The nanites were made in Japan, heh.Ryan wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:10 amThe one that always gets me is how did scientists in the early 90s develop a nanotechnology that was so advanced that it's somehow still so cutting edge and valuable 2000 years later in a society of super high-tech robotics?ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:33 pm A commonly-asked question back in the day was why was Bloodshot's blood called the Blood of Heroes BEFORE it was injected into anyone other than Angelo Mortalli? Who were these other heroes supposed to be?
What if, in order to accommodate the ending of Bloodshot #51 into Rai #0 it turned out that Angelo did die at the end of the former and the Bloodshot that dies in the latter was someone else, one of these other heroes?
What if between the two there were many other people that were injected with Bloodshot's blood before Ax took it?
There's a lot of things that don't hold up as well as we remember, especially in post-Unity when a lot more writers got involved and a number of them were basically interns and first-timers. Doesn’t mean there isn't a lot of good and fun stuff, but it's not as airtight as you make it out to be.


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Yeah.magnusr wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:48 amWhat makes that a little more believable is that it wasn't just the technology that made the blood valuable, it was also the fact that it had been affected by Bloodshot's harbinger abilities.Ryan wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:10 am The one that always gets me is how did scientists in the early 90s develop a nanotechnology that was so advanced that it's somehow still so cutting edge and valuable 2000 years later in a society of super high-tech robotics?
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And? In 4000 Japan is a gigantic computer filled with robots, you're telling me they couldn't replicate nanomachines from the 90's?ManofTheAtom wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:59 amThe nanites were made in Japan, heh.Ryan wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:10 amThe one that always gets me is how did scientists in the early 90s develop a nanotechnology that was so advanced that it's somehow still so cutting edge and valuable 2000 years later in a society of super high-tech robotics?ManofTheAtom wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:33 pm A commonly-asked question back in the day was why was Bloodshot's blood called the Blood of Heroes BEFORE it was injected into anyone other than Angelo Mortalli? Who were these other heroes supposed to be?
What if, in order to accommodate the ending of Bloodshot #51 into Rai #0 it turned out that Angelo did die at the end of the former and the Bloodshot that dies in the latter was someone else, one of these other heroes?
What if between the two there were many other people that were injected with Bloodshot's blood before Ax took it?
There's a lot of things that don't hold up as well as we remember, especially in post-Unity when a lot more writers got involved and a number of them were basically interns and first-timers. Doesn’t mean there isn't a lot of good and fun stuff, but it's not as airtight as you make it out to be.
I guess. It's not like Harbingers were that rare in the 2 thousand years between BS and Rai. It's still hard for me to swallow for me that nanotechnology from 1991 + a not so rare Harbinger would make a blood that's SO rare and powerful. But it's fine, I can still enjoy Bloodshot. I'm just saying let's not pretend VH1 is some kind of perfect sci-fi masterpiece without flaws or logical fallacies.magnusr wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:48 am What makes that a little more believable is that it wasn't just the technology that made the blood valuable, it was also the fact that it had been affected by Bloodshot's harbinger abilities.