Did future Gilad talk to Geoff at all?

[jakgrimm]

At one point before meeting with the 1992 team Solar finds the 4001 crew and asks Gilad "Where's Geoff?"

To which Gilad responds something like If you mean Geoff McHenry I'm afraid I haven't seen him in a very long time.

Well he was about to see him again. But they don't cover that reunion. Gilad should have been like holy squee Geoff great to see you! Does my heart good....


They were in Unity together but there's not a kind word between them.

[Ryan]

At one point before meeting with the 1992 team Solar finds the 4001 crew and asks Gilad "Where's Geoff?"

To which Gilad responds something like If you mean Geoff McHenry I'm afraid I haven't seen him in a very long time.

Well he was about to see him again. But they don't cover that reunion. Gilad should have been like holy squee Geoff great to see you! Does my heart good....


They were in Unity together but there's not a kind word between them.

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

[magnusr]

Gilad should have been like holy squee Geoff great to see you! Does my heart good....

Yeah, their first (assuming the quick encounter at arrival in Lost Land was so quick it doesn't count) conversation in Eternal Warrior 2 is just about practical things, no emotions .

/Magnus

[magnusr]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

[myron]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

Butterfly effect

[Ryan]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

That's the quote. Proof that the past is changeable in Vh1.

[jakgrimm]

I don't understand. Future Gilad knew Geoff, presumably spent Geoff's lifetime together in some capacity. He knew his first and last name. What does an alternate uni have to do with it?

[jakgrimm]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

To me this (sort of) proves it's the same timeline. Things happening to past Gilly affect this future G. Though future G should have had that scar the whole time and been like oh that's how I got it...



Side note: It went down similarly to Looper where they cut off the guy's foot in the past and the future version of him feels it in real time. A bunch of cr*p that breaks every time travel rule.

[jakgrimm]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

That's the quote. Proof that the past is changeable in Vh1.

I believe this was the writer's way of introducing some risk into Unity. I'm sure everyone thought Oh future Gilad made it so everything must turn out alright. Wait this time is different......

I'm putting it out there that he might have been remembering wrong. He was psychoprobed so many times and is so old. Does anyone know of a reference to an alternate timeline anywhere else in Valiant? I can't think of any. And please don't say Ack Lame or VEI

[Ryan]

That suggests multiple timelines or at least that the way the 90's and Unity happened for future Gil was different. Doesn't he mention at some point that he remembers things happening differently?

Yes, "It didn't go like this. It's all different. Worse". And then there's that scar that future Gilad suddenly gets when young Gilad gets wounded.

/Magnus

That's the quote. Proof that the past is changeable in Vh1.

I believe this was the writer's way of introducing some risk into Unity. I'm sure everyone thought Oh future Gilad made it so everything must turn out alright. Wait this time is different......

I'm putting it out there that he might have been remembering wrong. He was psychoprobed so many times and is so old. Does anyone know of a reference to an alternate timeline anywhere else in Valiant? I can't think of any. And please don't say Ack Lame or VEI

Sure it could be seen as a faulty memory, but if that's all it is it seems weird to include it in the story. But it at least opens the possibility that Unity unfolded in a different way in 4001 Gil's 1992, and that something has altered the past (his version of the past).