Thread for those that didn't like the webseries..Step inside

[valiantdude]

Nope, this name is too darned common

Thats ok, haha, loved that column, I know that dude used to post here..

I post on other forums,so i dont mind whatever people comment,mostly..

This DMG thing happened for a reason,everything happens for a reason..

I think some very good stuff will come out of this

[Ryan]

We're all Valiant fans here and we all appreciate the people who work hard everyday to put out new content, but we also should be able to share our honest and unvarnished thoughts about the work without fear of getting ganged up on.

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Cool, understood. I think we can debate what we liked or didn't like about the material without having to fall into black and white camps of People who love everything vs. Haters.

Many people point out positive aspects, which is great, but some constructive criticism is also useful, especially since Valiant seems to be on the cusp a either a whole new direction or getting out of publishing altogether. Looking at the VEI run from afar, with all the investment put in (of money, hard work, talent, etc) and some books that have sold a lot, to still be sitting at under %1 of market share in a steadily shrinking market can't be what they had set their sights for. As fans we need to speak up with what we love and don't love about what they put out so they don't disappear again.

[Ryan]

Nope, this name is too darned common

Thats ok, haha, loved that column, I know that dude used to post here..

I post on other forums,so i dont mind whatever people comment,mostly..

This DMG thing happened for a reason,everything happens for a reason..

I think some very good stuff will come out of this

I wonder if you mean Ryan Mclelland (sp)? I remember him posting here and being involved in some various projects.

It seems like an interesting time for the comics industry, and one has to wonder how much DMG will value a publishing arm if their primary concern is movies. Will it be worth all the trouble and investment to just sell 5,000 copies and then end up having to change everything for a movie anyway? What Valiant really needs is a book like Walking Dead or Saga that can really grab and hold the attention of the general comic reading crowd. But if that was easy to do, everyone would do it

[jxm640]

Nope, this name is too darned common

Thats ok, haha, loved that column, I know that dude used to post here..

I post on other forums,so i dont mind whatever people comment,mostly..

This DMG thing happened for a reason,everything happens for a reason..

I think some very good stuff will come out of this

I wonder if you mean Ryan Mclelland (sp)? I remember him posting here and being involved in some various projects.

It seems like an interesting time for the comics industry, and one has to wonder how much DMG will value a publishing arm if their primary concern is movies. Will it be worth all the trouble and investment to just sell 5,000 copies and then end up having to change everything for a movie anyway? What Valiant really needs is a book like Walking Dead or Saga that can really grab and hold the attention of the general comic reading crowd. But if that was easy to do, everyone would do it

+1 The only issue is that The Walking Dead and Saga work because there is no expanded universe that they need to tie in to. Unless VEI/VMG restart the universe with one maxi book per month and maintain ridiculous quality (as Ryan has mentioned, if it was easy...) that model won't work.

[Chiclo]

Thanks Ryan! Very good points, I think some people here have PTSD about dinesh being canned, I'm just giving my perspective as a OG valiant fan, without the personal attachments.

We're all Valiant fans here and we all appreciate the people who work hard everyday to put out new content, but we also should be able to share our honest and unvarnished thoughts about the work without fear of getting ganged up on.

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

[greg]

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

[Chiclo]

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

MATHS! The vilest and most universal oppressor of all!

[depluto]

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

MATHS! The vilest and most universal oppressor of all!

That fits in with my memories of calculus class.

[myron]

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

MATHS! The vilest and most universal oppressor of all!

That fits in with my memories of calculus class.

and don't you forget it!

[geocarr]

You guys aren't getting "ganged up on"... You're expressing a minority opinion and acting like victims when the majority says so.

Your perspective is understood by the rest of us but the numbers just aren't on your side.

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

MATHS! The vilest and most universal oppressor of all!

That fits in with my memories of calculus class.

and don't you forget it!

Oh, I've long forgotten everything I ever thought I might have known about calculus. It's amazing how much room that freed up in my head.

[jxm640]

Isn't that the millennial definition of fasciism? Or one of the really bad -isms, racism?

mathism

MATHS! The vilest and most universal oppressor of all!

That fits in with my memories of calculus class.

and don't you forget it!

Oh, I've long forgotten everything I ever thought I might have known about calculus. It's amazing how much room that freed up in my head.

What's 1+3? Is it Z?