Shadowman 1 glow in dark 1:250

[corey]

Anybody seen the pictures yet?
I'm kinda excited about this one

[BT]

Wait until you see the pricing: DCBS has it for $500; Midtown for $300

[TheeBaldMoose]

Wait until you see the pricing: DCBS has it for $500; Midtown for $300

Everyone's excited about this, and per anything Capitalist based, make as much money as you can.

Simply put, we've seen what 1:250's go for, and that's around $200-$250ish, I don't expect (won't purchase) anything more than that ceiling, you shouldn't either

[nonplayer]

Wait until you see the pricing: DCBS has it for $500; Midtown for $300

Everyone's excited about this, and per anything Capitalist based, make as much money as you can.

Simply put, we've seen what 1:250's go for, and that's around $200-$250ish, I don't expect (won't purchase) anything more than that ceiling, you shouldn't either

[kjjohanson]

It's funny, I imagine that these super-high ratios are meant to boost the sales of the first issues, but I don't feel comfortable dropping that much money on a single new issue, and since they wouldn't be the rarest variant of a new book, I've been passing on pre-ordering the 1:50s of the first issues as well, figuring that I can pick them up at a discount after they launch since there are going to be multiple books earned for each of the super-rare variants. I wonder how much these variants are helping or hurting the numbers.

[nonplayer]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

[geocarr]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

[nycjadie]

It's funny, I imagine that these super-high ratios are meant to boost the sales of the first issues, but I don't feel comfortable dropping that much money on a single new issue, and since they wouldn't be the rarest variant of a new book, I've been passing on pre-ordering the 1:50s of the first issues as well, figuring that I can pick them up at a discount after they launch since there are going to be multiple books earned for each of the super-rare variants. I wonder how much these variants are helping or hurting the numbers.

Me too. My LCS charges me $250 for these deals, but I get to keep all the variants and issues. I let him use the regular copies as freebies, and I give him a few Variants to sell. We both win. Not cheap, but I enjoy the books and sell some to get closer to break even.

[TheeBaldMoose]

It's funny, I imagine that these super-high ratios are meant to boost the sales of the first issues, but I don't feel comfortable dropping that much money on a single new issue, and since they wouldn't be the rarest variant of a new book, I've been passing on pre-ordering the 1:50s of the first issues as well, figuring that I can pick them up at a discount after they launch since there are going to be multiple books earned for each of the super-rare variants. I wonder how much these variants are helping or hurting the numbers.

Me too. My LCS charges me $250 for these deals, but I get to keep all the variants and issues. I let him use the regular copies as freebies, and I give him a few Variants to sell. We both win. Not cheap, but I enjoy the books and sell some to get closer to break even.

I like your guy at your LCS, he's a solid dude! He is all about a win/win situation, and it helps. He would be my LCS, if it wasn't so far away from where I live.

[nonplayer]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

[TheeBaldMoose]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

Continuity? yours or theirs? Has to be yours, because these all seem to line up quite nice. Bloodshot (2012) simply ran out, and I would absolutely hate it if Bloodshot is fighting a new super villain every single arc, like the old spider man or superman. It just gets old, quick! What more could you want from Bloodshot reborn? That story ran it's course, and needed a new chapter, thus we have Salvation. While it's not the exact same thing for Shadowman, that one was more for sales reason. But, people wanted him bad enough, so they put him in Ninjak and it was successful. Having the mini with Shadowman was very important, because he needed to get out of his whining ways. I don't see this as getting out of continuity at all, I see it as pivotal!

Komander Bloodshot should again be pivotal, as when was the last time he was 100% neutralized? Ninjak outlined a very successful way of killing Bloodshot, and he did it inside that series.

You seem to be insulted quite a bit lately, but this all seems to sync up for me.

[geocarr]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

I appreciate your response and I mean no offense. Just trying to discuss your POV. Would you rather have the old DC and Marvel legacy system of title continuity with lower story quality or VEIs current system?

[FlipMega]

It's funny, I imagine that these super-high ratios are meant to boost the sales of the first issues, but I don't feel comfortable dropping that much money on a single new issue, and since they wouldn't be the rarest variant of a new book, I've been passing on pre-ordering the 1:50s of the first issues as well, figuring that I can pick them up at a discount after they launch since there are going to be multiple books earned for each of the super-rare variants. I wonder how much these variants are helping or hurting the numbers.

Me too. My LCS charges me $250 for these deals, but I get to keep all the variants and issues. I let him use the regular copies as freebies, and I give him a few Variants to sell. We both win. Not cheap, but I enjoy the books and sell some to get closer to break even.

maybe im too green on the dealer side but if his cost is $500 and you get to keep all the merch needed to recoup the other half, how does he win other than marketing the "freebies" to get more subs? i ask because I have a LCS with quantity buying and selling power and thats how its explained to me - he can sell to me for $250 but he needs those other books to make back the rest.

[kjjohanson]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?

You get 10 honeymoon periods with the former so I'll go with that.

[nonplayer]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

I appreciate your response and I mean no offense. Just trying to discuss your POV. Would you rather have the old DC and Marvel legacy system of title continuity with lower story quality or VEIs current system?

I'd rather fill a long box of one title in numerical order.
You didn't answer my question obove.
I don't understand what your saying about the legacy system since I don't read dc or marvel. but do you think bloodshot Reborn could just have been bloodshot with the numbers continuing.
And why not if your answer is yes.

[TheeBaldMoose]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

I appreciate your response and I mean no offense. Just trying to discuss your POV. Would you rather have the old DC and Marvel legacy system of title continuity with lower story quality or VEIs current system?

I'd rather fill a long box of one title in numerical order.
You didn't answer my question obove.
I don't understand what your saying about the legacy system since I don't read dc or marvel. but do you think bloodshot Reborn could just have been bloodshot with the numbers continuing.
And why not if your answer is yes.

No, It couldn't have had worked, Bloodshot had changed so much by that time. The Valiant alone (perfect little mini) changed Bloodshot and his trajectory for what he might be, more than just a weapon. It's like chapters, if you will. Or, like I've said before, a totally different story. All of the Lord of the Rings books started over when the story for that book ended. It was the entire story we were all interested in, but inside that entire story, were three distinct story lines, thus each got their own book. It's not quite the same, but it's close. Bloodshot is still Bloodshot, and the entire story of his life has continued on, but each little part deserves it's own story. Each change in his life should be cataloged.

[geocarr]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

I appreciate your response and I mean no offense. Just trying to discuss your POV. Would you rather have the old DC and Marvel legacy system of title continuity with lower story quality or VEIs current system?

I'd rather fill a long box of one title in numerical order.
You didn't answer my question obove.
I don't understand what your saying about the legacy system since I don't read dc or marvel. but do you think bloodshot Reborn could just have been bloodshot with the numbers continuing.
And why not if your answer is yes.

Me personally at age 44 now, I honestly think I'd prefer 10, 4 month relationships and the accompanying hopefully wonderful honeymoon periods of each but I've also been married for going on 16 years so I might be a little jaded against the 1, 4 year relationship. Don't tell my wife.

Marvel and DC, but especially DC had many long running titles with numbering in the hundreds and a couple that were pretty close to reaching issue #1000 before the New 52 but it seemed the story quality and sometimes the characters themselves were deteriorating in quality. But collectors could achieve a complete run if they wanted to pursue it as many have tried or done with Amazing Spider-Man.

Again personally at this point for me in the hobby of comics, I care mostly about quality of product and character development, so the retitling and renumbering doesn't bother me. I also understand how it can help the company overall with sales and business sustainability which I want them to have so they can keep producing quality products for me to consume.

[kinggirlfriend]

All the stories are "imaginary". Numbering doesn't make them any more real. Kommander Bloodshot was a fun one-shot.

[corey]

I'd sell my soul to be able to afford the guedes shadowman cover. .so beautiful

[nonplayer]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

I appreciate your response and I mean no offense. Just trying to discuss your POV. Would you rather have the old DC and Marvel legacy system of title continuity with lower story quality or VEIs current system?

I'd rather fill a long box of one title in numerical order.
You didn't answer my question obove.
I don't understand what your saying about the legacy system since I don't read dc or marvel. but do you think bloodshot Reborn could just have been bloodshot with the numbers continuing.
And why not if your answer is yes.

Me personally at age 44 now, I honestly think I'd prefer 10, 4 month relationships and the accompanying hopefully wonderful honeymoon periods of each but I've also been married for going on 16 years so I might be a little jaded against the 1, 4 year relationship. Don't tell my wife.

Marvel and DC, but especially DC had many long running titles with numbering in the hundreds and a couple that were pretty close to reaching issue #1000 before the New 52 but it seemed the story quality and sometimes the characters themselves were deteriorating in quality. But collectors could achieve a complete run if they wanted to pursue it as many have tried or done with Amazing Spider-Man.

Again personally at this point for me in the hobby of comics, I care mostly about quality of product and character development, so the retitling and renumbering doesn't bother me. I also understand how it can help the company overall with sales and business sustainability which I want them to have so they can keep producing quality products for me to consume.

I used to be a full supporter till they went all Rafferverse.
One of my biggest gripes with reboots is they make threads and don't return to them.
It's easy to bail on stuff some other guy created.

[agent_graves]

Glow In The Dark 1:250


My lcs prices the incentive variants individually. They’ve bundled them for me once or twice but, either way, I get 16% off, so I’m cool with whatever...

Simply put, we've seen what 1:250's go for, and that's around $200-$250ish, I don't expect (won't purchase) anything more than that ceiling, you shouldn't either

+1

[THEWGZK]

It's funny, I imagine that these super-high ratios are meant to boost the sales of the first issues, but I don't feel comfortable dropping that much money on a single new issue, and since they wouldn't be the rarest variant of a new book, I've been passing on pre-ordering the 1:50s of the first issues as well, figuring that I can pick them up at a discount after they launch since there are going to be multiple books earned for each of the super-rare variants. I wonder how much these variants are helping or hurting the numbers.

Me too. My LCS charges me $250 for these deals, but I get to keep all the variants and issues. I let him use the regular copies as freebies, and I give him a few Variants to sell. We both win. Not cheap, but I enjoy the books and sell some to get closer to break even.

I'm lucky enough to have a somewhat similar deal with my LCS and we hand out the extras to get people interested. Managed to get his X-O subs over 20, it worked well with secret weapons. Now well have too see if it works with Ninjak and Q&W. But super pumped for Shadowman's return.

[onearmedwampa3000]

The direction of the comics doesn't make me want to spend more money so I don't buy Variants any more. Reboots, re numbering short xo run doesn't make me want to invest My time or money.

Why do short runs and renumbering bother you if the writing and art quality is strong?

Continuity mainly but having a box full of four parters a few twelve a ton of one shots is a pain to flip through. I like what they have done with bloodshot and xo is not a problem except it would have been nice to surpass the original run numbers or atleast match it.
I compair it to a relationship what do you prefer 10, 4 month relationships or a four year relationship?
Reboots suck it's like going back to the beginning once you've developed a feeling for said title.
Also when you reboot or renumber it leaves hanging threads not nessasary to go back to. I'm still waiting on a bunch of threads to finalise.
Offering a four parter out of continuity and out of story is a money grab and kinda insulting to me.
And it doesn't fit in my normal run collection.
Commander bloodshot one shot doesn't sit with my bloodshot run and it doesn't fit with Divinity it's a cast off a imaginary side story that doesn't fit any where and I'll probably give away. there for a waste of my money.
Hope that answers your question

Continuity? yours or theirs? Has to be yours, because these all seem to line up quite nice. Bloodshot (2012) simply ran out, and I would absolutely hate it if Bloodshot is fighting a new super villain every single arc, like the old spider man or superman. It just gets old, quick! What more could you want from Bloodshot reborn? That story ran it's course, and needed a new chapter, thus we have Salvation. While it's not the exact same thing for Shadowman, that one was more for sales reason. But, people wanted him bad enough, so they put him in Ninjak and it was successful. Having the mini with Shadowman was very important, because he needed to get out of his whining ways. I don't see this as getting out of continuity at all, I see it as pivotal!

Komander Bloodshot should again be pivotal, as when was the last time he was 100% neutralized? Ninjak outlined a very successful way of killing Bloodshot, and he did it inside that series.

You seem to be insulted quite a bit lately, but this all seems to sync up for me.

I really like the shorter runs. The writer can tell their story and move on, or relaunch but the continuity always stays intact. Hardly any filler, no crossovers into other titles I don't want to buy, and this also makes Valiant extremely accessible to new fans.