Discuss Hard To Find Or Currently Hot Comics Of Any Era

[Joshua]

I feel like some of the blowback from retailers on Marvel's upcoming lenticular covers could make those in demand. There's something like 70+ shops refusing to order them.

[StarBrand]

Good point, Joshua.

[maraxusofkeld]

Looks like Sandman #22, 69 are getting some heat with Daniel's use in the new DC Rebirth.

[GGSAE]

Looks like Sandman #22, 69 are getting some heat with Daniel's use in the new DC Rebirth.

Ya good call on that, I have two near complete runs of sandman and was looking to see which issues aren't common (or might cost me more than a few bucks) and saw 22 had strong sales. I know 8 has always been a key but it's sales to be on the rise as well...it's turning into a run of many valuable books.


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[maraxusofkeld]

I would check your #18 as well bye chance to see if it is the error issue. It is super hard to find in high grade.

[GGSAE]

I would check your #18 as well bye chance to see if it is the error issue. It is super hard to find in high grade.

I do check 18s because I did have a copy of it at one point.


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[ShadowTuga]

Well, another issue from King's Batman run is climbing- in this case, a variant cover by Josh Middleton.
I can honestly say that this cover is amazing "in person" (I was all over it when I got my copy; just saw the buzz today, some 3 weeks later) and I can see the market going for this, prob a +/- 15 dollars book for a while, at least. EDIT - This is just a B cover, no incentive whatsoever.

[slym2none]

How-do.

I haven't kept up with modern comics in a while now, but I ran across some from a few years back, and am wondering how they are doing now. Any of these hot/HTF now? (I somehow doubt it, but one never knows...)

Future's End 47 (Batman Beyond)
Spider-Gwen 2
Silk 1, 1 second print, 2, 3
SW Kanan The Last Padawan

Sorry for taking up space!



-slym

[ShadowTuga]

Sorry for taking up space!

-slym

P*** off, Slym! Don't you dare to claim space for yourself, you space-hoarder!!!!



On the serious note, Kanan might jump if he's brought into the movies, but right now he's a cartoon character, although popular, IMHO. He might be Aayla Secura level of poplularity, even more if well cast, written and portrayed. I actually am a fan, despite thinking at first that he was the random jedi you have to have in a SW show with mostly non-movie characters.

I believe that at one point in time sooner than we think, Neo Gotham's protector will be on the big screen. Affleck stepping out after one or 2 more movies, easily playing the role of Old Man... Batman (his subconscience knows no Bruce - an inside one for BB fans ) and since Nightwing will be on Teen Titans TV, and without any word of even existing a Tim Drake... I see McGinnis as the next Bat. I *SQUEE* hate that idea- but reading the media and the passing the mantle stuff AND the fact that apparently, DC is interested in "multiverse" movies (DiCaprio Joker by Scorcese?!) ... yeah, I see it. And on that, the multiverse is DC's TM thing on continuity- can you guys for a moment imagine a scene in a Batman movie where we get to see Keaton (or Bale) with Affleck, even for a small second? This would make DC movies Really their own thing. With Lynda Carter looking gorgeous and taking names, and with the (not all) excellent actors from the CW? and Ca-$$$$$hing!!!!
But, as of now, I don't see any GREAT enthusiasm for Terry- I think they actually killed him in the nu52, and replaced him with Drake? Damian? I don't read Beyond, beats me. I know that currently he's alive and well, but Beyond isn't a big seller, for a Batman book, that is.
But the show has its loyal fanbase... patience, its what I would advise. There will be news in the next few years, I strongly believe it.

The Spider Man thing is beyond me, I don't see why these copycat ladies are so beloved, but that's on me. I don't "do" Spidey.

[Summydad1]

I do not own very many modern Marvel comics but the new legacy stuff looks cool and I have a few of the homage lenticular covers on preorder. Two books that seem to be on fire right now are Totally awesome hulk 22 (first appearance of weapon H) and Spidergwen 24 (first appearance of Gwenom). The Spidergwen book just came out this Wednesday and has sold out nationwide.

[StarBrand]

Thanks for the info Summydad1.

[slym2none]

Sorry for taking up space!

-slym

P*** off, Slym! Don't you dare to claim space for yourself, you space-hoarder!!!!



On the serious note, Kanan might jump if he's brought into the movies, but right now he's a cartoon character, although popular, IMHO. He might be Aayla Secura level of poplularity, even more if well cast, written and portrayed. I actually am a fan, despite thinking at first that he was the random jedi you have to have in a SW show with mostly non-movie characters.

I believe that at one point in time sooner than we think, Neo Gotham's protector will be on the big screen. Affleck stepping out after one or 2 more movies, easily playing the role of Old Man... Batman (his subconscience knows no Bruce - an inside one for BB fans ) and since Nightwing will be on Teen Titans TV, and without any word of even existing a Tim Drake... I see McGinnis as the next Bat. I *SQUEE* hate that idea- but reading the media and the passing the mantle stuff AND the fact that apparently, DC is interested in "multiverse" movies (DiCaprio Joker by Scorcese?!) ... yeah, I see it. And on that, the multiverse is DC's TM thing on continuity- can you guys for a moment imagine a scene in a Batman movie where we get to see Keaton (or Bale) with Affleck, even for a small second? This would make DC movies Really their own thing. With Lynda Carter looking gorgeous and taking names, and with the (not all) excellent actors from the CW? and Ca-$$$$$hing!!!!
But, as of now, I don't see any GREAT enthusiasm for Terry- I think they actually killed him in the nu52, and replaced him with Drake? Damian? I don't read Beyond, beats me. I know that currently he's alive and well, but Beyond isn't a big seller, for a Batman book, that is.
But the show has its loyal fanbase... patience, its what I would advise. There will be news in the next few years, I strongly believe it.

The Spider Man thing is beyond me, I don't see why these copycat ladies are so beloved, but that's on me. I don't "do" Spidey.

Good info, I will hold onto those two for a bit to see.

Thanks, 'Tuga!



-slym

[IMJ]

How-do.

I haven't kept up with modern comics in a while now, but I ran across some from a few years back, and am wondering how they are doing now. Any of these hot/HTF now? (I somehow doubt it, but one never knows...)

Future's End 47 (Batman Beyond)
Spider-Gwen 2
Silk 1, 1 second print, 2, 3
SW Kanan The Last Padawan

Sorry for taking up space!



-slym

I think that Superman / Batman Annual #4 is the big Batman Beyond book....

[ShadowTuga]

How-do.

I haven't kept up with modern comics in a while now, but I ran across some from a few years back, and am wondering how they are doing now. Any of these hot/HTF now? (I somehow doubt it, but one never knows...)

Future's End 47 (Batman Beyond)
Spider-Gwen 2
Silk 1, 1 second print, 2, 3
SW Kanan The Last Padawan

Sorry for taking up space!



-slym

I think that Superman / Batman Annual #4 is the big Batman Beyond book....

Whatever the book to get for Terry is, it is really weird that Harley's canon DC book ('99 Dini's Batman: Harley Quinn #1) isn't that hot. Batman Adventures #12 will always be the grail. Why isn't the same with Batman Beyond #1?

[IMJ]

How-do.

I haven't kept up with modern comics in a while now, but I ran across some from a few years back, and am wondering how they are doing now. Any of these hot/HTF now? (I somehow doubt it, but one never knows...)

Future's End 47 (Batman Beyond)
Spider-Gwen 2
Silk 1, 1 second print, 2, 3
SW Kanan The Last Padawan

Sorry for taking up space!



-slym

I think that Superman / Batman Annual #4 is the big Batman Beyond book....

Whatever the book to get for Terry is, it is really weird that Harley's canon DC book ('99 Dini's Batman: Harley Quinn #1) isn't that hot. Batman Adventures #12 will always be the grail. Why isn't the same with Batman Beyond #1?

Well I think the pricing disparity between Batman Beyond #1 and Superman/Batman Annual #4 is less significant than the Harley books, but we've had discussions similar to this one many times over the years here about a variety of books. The simplest, most fact driven answer is that at some point the market behavior as a whole begins to reflect the thinking of collectors on a holistic scale showing which book is the accepted or desirable one. The market decides which book is prescient for a given character.

The rationale for that could be different for each given title. Let's use the Harley book. The fact is that Batman Adventures #12 is the popular book, so let's try some assumptions that, as a whole may permeate the market, thus creating the behavior.

-Batman Adventures #12 is part of a publishing line dedicated to kids, moreso than general readers. Those books traditionally have smaller print runs and are also a bit more beat up than a regular comic. Think the Archie Ninja Turtles run as a comparison. Also, the entire Batman Adventures run is tough to put together in the first place.
-Batman Adventures #12 is Harley's 1st appearance in comics. Period. This started a market behavior to chase the book, and although B:HQ #1 is the 1st in continuity appearance, collectors were already seeking out BA #12, conditioning them that this was the book to have.
-BA #12 is more closely aligned with how the majority of Americans knew and saw Harley as a character. A sort of gumby-style animated character rather than a straighter comic book drawing within a greater continuity. The BA #12 archetype of Harley more accurately reflects what people believe of the character

My points here are not to make the argument that BA#12 should be the Harley book, but rather to serve as an example that the market commands which book is the go-to book, and that I'm sure that several behavioral reasons go into why for each given book. It's simply what people accept and respond to on the market with purchasing power.

With that said, I can say that it's been my observation and experience that in the last several years people have begun owning "sets" of a first appearance to fill their collection. For example, nowadays you'll see people bundling Marvel Age #97 with Darkhawk #1 rather than buying only Darkhawk #1, or having a CGC 9.8 set of Iron Man v1 #'s #281 & #282 and calling that bundle the 1st app of War Machine rather than simply pursuing the #281 cameo over or under the #282 story-driven appearance.

[ShadowTuga]

How-do.

I haven't kept up with modern comics in a while now, but I ran across some from a few years back, and am wondering how they are doing now. Any of these hot/HTF now? (I somehow doubt it, but one never knows...)

Future's End 47 (Batman Beyond)
Spider-Gwen 2
Silk 1, 1 second print, 2, 3
SW Kanan The Last Padawan

Sorry for taking up space!



-slym

I think that Superman / Batman Annual #4 is the big Batman Beyond book....

Whatever the book to get for Terry is, it is really weird that Harley's canon DC book ('99 Dini's Batman: Harley Quinn #1) isn't that hot. Batman Adventures #12 will always be the grail. Why isn't the same with Batman Beyond #1?

Well I think the pricing disparity between Batman Beyond #1 and Superman/Batman Annual #4 is less significant than the Harley books, but we've had discussions similar to this one many times over the years here about a variety of books. The simplest, most fact driven answer is that at some point the market behavior as a whole begins to reflect the thinking of collectors on a holistic scale showing which book is the accepted or desirable one. The market decides which book is prescient for a given character.

The rationale for that could be different for each given title. Let's use the Harley book. The fact is that Batman Adventures #12 is the popular book, so let's try some assumptions that, as a whole may permeate the market, thus creating the behavior.

-Batman Adventures #12 is part of a publishing line dedicated to kids, moreso than general readers. Those books traditionally have smaller print runs and are also a bit more beat up than a regular comic. Think the Archie Ninja Turtles run as a comparison. Also, the entire Batman Adventures run is tough to put together in the first place.
-Batman Adventures #12 is Harley's 1st appearance in comics. Period. This started a market behavior to chase the book, and although B:HQ #1 is the 1st in continuity appearance, collectors were already seeking out BA #12, conditioning them that this was the book to have.
-BA #12 is more closely aligned with how the majority of Americans knew and saw Harley as a character. A sort of gumby-style animated character rather than a straighter comic book drawing within a greater continuity. The BA #12 archetype of Harley more accurately reflects what people believe of the character

My points here are not to make the argument that BA#12 should be the Harley book, but rather to serve as an example that the market commands which book is the go-to book, and that I'm sure that several behavioral reasons go into why for each given book. It's simply what people accept and respond to on the market with purchasing power.

With that said, I can say that it's been my observation and experience that in the last several years people have begun owning "sets" of a first appearance to fill their collection. For example, nowadays you'll see people bundling Marvel Age #97 with Darkhawk #1 rather than buying only Darkhawk #1, or having a CGC 9.8 set of Iron Man v1 #'s #281 & #282 and calling that bundle the 1st app of War Machine rather than simply pursuing the #281 cameo over or under the #282 story-driven appearance.

Thanks for the input and thoughtful opinion, IMJ- and I totally agree with the fact that BA#12 is the "real" Harley, of sorts for BTAS fans (not only for Americans, I must add, the show ran all over the world at the time, here it was about 94/95 and it was Huge).

[StarBrand]

Someone bought multiple copies of Harbinger Wars 1 from me today. I then checked and saw others were pricing it higher now. Might be a book gaining momentum. Here's a link to an interesting listing.

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[nycjadie]

Is it really the first appearance of Gen Zero? I thought they appeared as a group in Bloodshot.

[ShadowTuga]

Is it really the first appearance of Gen Zero? I thought they appeared as a group in Bloodshot.

Same here. Bloodshot #9, IIRC?

[nycjadie]

Is it really the first appearance of Gen Zero? I thought they appeared as a group in Bloodshot.

Same here. Bloodshot #9, IIRC?

That's right. I researched the books, and I determined (IMNSHO) that the first issue they show up together is BS9. Last I saw the cover to the limited variant of that book was still available for purchase.

[Dr. Solar]

That's right. I researched the books, and I determined (IMNSHO) that the first issue they show up together is BS9. Last I saw the cover to the limited variant of that book was still available for purchase.

It seems like a pretty deep cut to me to go with BS 9 as the first appearance on Gen Zero. We see some kids heading away from the Bloodshot/Gamma smackdown on a monitor, who likely includes Animalia and some of the other kids in the Nursery that take off with Cronus and the krew, but nothing confirmable. Looking at the other side of this scene in Harby Wars 1, I don't think we can consider BS 9 the first appearance of Cronus, The Telic, Cloud, or the Zygos Twins.

[ShadowTuga]

That's right. I researched the books, and I determined (IMNSHO) that the first issue they show up together is BS9. Last I saw the cover to the limited variant of that book was still available for purchase.

It seems like a pretty deep cut to me to go with BS 9 as the first appearance on Gen Zero. We see some kids heading away from the Bloodshot/Gamma smackdown on a monitor, who likely includes Animalia and some of the other kids in the Nursery that take off with Cronus and the krew, but nothing confirmable. Looking at the other side of this scene in Harby Wars 1, I don't think we can consider BS 9 the first appearance of Cronus, The Telic, Cloud, or the Zygos Twins.

BS9 - Cameo?
HW #1 - First full appearance?

I don't have access to my books right now, but I do remember Gamma and the kids in BS#9. But yeah, if they are not identified on the page, it's murky.

[Elveen]

Harby wars 1 = 1st Gen Zero.

I got this from the "boys" back in the.

[StarBrand]

Maybe that's why I sold some copies of it!

[nycjadie]

Were they recognized as a team in Harbinger Wars? I don't think they were, but it's been some time since I last read it. Just a bunch of kids. We could get into semantics about all this. When was the first time the team name was used?