What is exactly the connection, if any?

[1ForChrist]

I wasn't a follower of the Valiant universe in V1, just bought a few books. Then I read on the sell to Acclaim and now the new universe VE.

Is there any connection between those three phases, as far as the stories are involved. I'm aware that Valiant ties their books together, but because of the three phases is this really the approach you could have?

V1 - for investment purposes. 1st appearances

Acclaim - Ignore

VE - You can start from here without having read any of the V1 issues because though it is the same characters, their stories are being retold again.

Thanks for the clarification on this.

[Keith]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

[1ForChrist]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

[jaden_sai]

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

You might want to give Book of Death a read.

[greg]

The current Valiant (2012-present) is the reboot which kept the "core" of each character. It's similar to Ultimate Spider-man (2000) being a reboot of that Amazing Fantasy #15 guy, but modernized and changed some.

Quantum & Woody did not appear in the original Valiant Universe, so it is the primary connection (if you want to call it that) between Acclaim and current Valiant.

[Thegreatmagnet]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

Valiant better not do another reboot. It's contrary to so much of their marketing, which stresses the importance of continuity. The stories all matter because they don't change history, resurrect characters from the dead, etc. If they did a reboot, there would be a revolt.

As for the future, they have shown many of the characters decades or centuries ahead in the future, and the characters do age (aside from the Anni-Padda brothers). So I think we can assume that characters will age in Valiant, unlike Marvel and DC. That could be a fascinating aspect of Valiant, assuming they are still around in a few decades...

[Phoenix8008]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

Valiant better not do another reboot. It's contrary to so much of their marketing, which stresses the importance of continuity. The stories all matter because they don't change history, resurrect characters from the dead, etc. If they did a reboot, there would be a revolt.

As for the future, they have shown many of the characters decades or centuries ahead in the future, and the characters do age (aside from the Anni-Padda brothers). So I think we can assume that characters will age in Valiant, unlike Marvel and DC. That could be a fascinating aspect of Valiant, assuming they are still around in a few decades...

I really hope they do age like this. That would really show the difference between Valiant and the others.

[greg]

It's early since 2012, but I feel like the Harbinger renegade kids have aged about 4-5 years in the story.

[jeremycoe]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

Valiant better not do another reboot. It's contrary to so much of their marketing, which stresses the importance of continuity. The stories all matter because they don't change history, resurrect characters from the dead, etc. If they did a reboot, there would be a revolt.

As for the future, they have shown many of the characters decades or centuries ahead in the future, and the characters do age (aside from the Anni-Padda brothers). So I think we can assume that characters will age in Valiant, unlike Marvel and DC. That could be a fascinating aspect of Valiant, assuming they are still around in a few decades...

When Marvel or DC do future stories their characters have aged as well. The real question is does time pass at the same rate within the Valiant universe as it does in the real world. In 2027 will Valiant characters have aged 10 years in their stories or not? I think it is unlikely that they will have aged that much.

[Daniel Jackson]

A lot of the Acclaim stuff was garbage, but there are a few titles that are worth taking a look at. Most can be picked up pretty cheap except for a few variant and rare titles. For me, Bloodshot, Shadowman after issue 16, Q&W, Solar and the Turok one shot books are some examples of decent reads.

[jeremycoe]

A lot of the Acclaim stuff was garbage, but there are a few titles that are worth taking a look at. Most can be picked up pretty cheap except for a few variant and rare titles. For me, Bloodshot, Shadowman after issue 16, Q&W, Solar and the Turok one shot books are some examples of decent reads.

Quantum & Woody definitely. I remember most of the various one-shots being great, including Turok, Solar, and I really liked Operation: Stormbreaker.

[ShadowTuga]

It's early since 2012, but I feel like the Harbinger renegade kids have aged about 4-5 years in the story.

I put Faith in the 20-21 range now.
Would give her maybe 16, when she first appeared, so I'm with you.

And Torque has a beard now, right?

[greg]

It's early since 2012, but I feel like the Harbinger renegade kids have aged about 4-5 years in the story.

I put Faith in the 20-21 range now.
Would give her maybe 16, when she first appeared, so I'm with you.

And Torque has a beard now, right?

Right, I was specifically thinking of Faith, Kris, and Peter... then vs now.

[Shadowman99]

It's early since 2012, but I feel like the Harbinger renegade kids have aged about 4-5 years in the story.

I put Faith in the 20-21 range now.
Would give her maybe 16, when she first appeared, so I'm with you.

And Torque has a beard now, right?

Right, I was specifically thinking of Faith, Kris, and Peter... then vs now.

I get the impression that the Harb characters have aged real-time in this instance. Whether or not that continues into the future or not remains to be seen but I guess we'll see when we get there.

[Shadowman99]

There is a connection between the Acclaim VH Universe and the original Valiant. IIRC, the idea is that the Acclaim VH universe was another universe attempt by the original Solar, who appeared in the Solar: Hell on Earth series.

There is no connection story-wise with the current VEI universe and anything that came before.

You are probably right to just skip the Acclaim stuff. Some of it was ok... personally, I really liked Bloodshot and Turok. The VEI stuff is far superior and should be the focus of your reading enjoyment.

Thanks for the info! Curious as to whether in the future Valiant will do another re-boot? Have you heard of any comic book that actually follows a timeline as to where a character actually gets older, then another person takes the mantle. I would think Valiant would do something like that.

Valiant better not do another reboot. It's contrary to so much of their marketing, which stresses the importance of continuity. The stories all matter because they don't change history, resurrect characters from the dead, etc. If they did a reboot, there would be a revolt.

As for the future, they have shown many of the characters decades or centuries ahead in the future, and the characters do age (aside from the Anni-Padda brothers). So I think we can assume that characters will age in Valiant, unlike Marvel and DC. That could be a fascinating aspect of Valiant, assuming they are still around in a few decades...

When Marvel or DC do future stories their characters have aged as well. The real question is does time pass at the same rate within the Valiant universe as it does in the real world. In 2027 will Valiant characters have aged 10 years in their stories or not? I think it is unlikely that they will have aged that much.

Based on Valiant's output to date I think it's pretty safe to say that right now a reboot definitely isn't necessary, in any form.

The story content that's been put out to date has generally been pretty mindful of the future as far as plotlines are concerned, or at least that's the impression I get. I think VEI have done a good job to date of not only establishing a current universe for their stories to play out in, but also carefully setting up a universe for future events to happen in. Some 'future' predictions have been made, but I think they've been done in such a way that the exact time in which they occur in the future is fairly open to interpretation which makes it easy for the writers to work with, so there's still a lot left to play out in the current VEI universe as it stands - I wouldn't even put the time into thinking about a reboot at this point in time tbh.

(Note: I see the 4001 universe basically as a seperate entity at the moment, so I don't feel it poses any strong restraint on the current day universe and its events. I'm really only discussing the modern day universe above.)

[Daniel Jackson]

A lot of the Acclaim stuff was garbage, but there are a few titles that are worth taking a look at. Most can be picked up pretty cheap except for a few variant and rare titles. For me, Bloodshot, Shadowman after issue 16, Q&W, Solar and the Turok one shot books are some examples of decent reads.

Quantum & Woody definitely. I remember most of the various one-shots being great, including Turok, Solar, and I really liked Operation: Stormbreaker.

That was another good one. Loved the main villain.

[Shadowman99]

A lot of the Acclaim stuff was garbage, but there are a few titles that are worth taking a look at. Most can be picked up pretty cheap except for a few variant and rare titles. For me, Bloodshot, Shadowman after issue 16, Q&W, Solar and the Turok one shot books are some examples of decent reads.

Quantum & Woody definitely. I remember most of the various one-shots being great, including Turok, Solar, and I really liked Operation: Stormbreaker.

That was another good one. Loved the main villain.

Candyfloss Head in Q+W?

He just spent the whole comic going "Nope, don't wanna be the bad guy"

[Ramses818]

No body brings up my favorite acclaim series? Eternal Warriors?! I loved that series. Q&W was a lot of fun also.