Hillary Clinton in Faith #5

[lorddunlow]

I feel sorry for you Americans. On one hand you got a peice of work = trump. And on the other hand Hillary. Both are garbage choices for president. And your only good choice sanders go the boot. California has the total Canadian population your telling me with all these humans and potential presidents hillary and trump are the best you got. That in its self is sad. Hillary is a set up because everyone likes firsts and the first woman in will be the first choice most will make. Because voting for trump is idiocy. what's the point in voting at all sounds like the presidency organisation is making the choice for you.
Good luck ya all!

I feel sorry for us Americans as well.

I've legitimately been researching moving to the Caribbean.

[Sven the Returned]

Do you think Hillary will cheet on her husband same desk same oval office different secretary ?

Do they make big enough strapons for her?

[DirtbagSailor]

Just shot Paolo Rivera a pm requesting to buy the original cover art.

No, I am not a Clinton supporter; however, I do recognize a good opportunity from time to time.

[Benny_Decker]

Valiant should have put Clinton and Trump on the cover of a new "1 Percent" one shot.

[BugsySig]

It's a PR grab. Marvel waited for Obama to be elected, I believe. VEI is trying to beat everyone else to the starting line.

But VEI has already been political. Putin in Divinity II, and Dysart had Harada assassinate the President of Syria! What does it matter if Hillary is in a story? Is the bigger issue that they put her on the cover? Or just that people don't like her? Heaven forbid someone people don't like gets put in something they do! What if Trump cameo'd on Game of Thrones? Whatever would we do!?!?

Theres also no need to give Trump equal coverage. They're a privately owned media group. They can put whichever public figures they want in their work. Though I'd love to see him revealed as a 1-Percenter...right next to good ol Hills! They can wear elephant and donkey masks respectively.

[greg]

The title is Faith, who is Valiant's "groundbreaking female" hero. There's little doubt she would support a "groundbreaking female" presidential nominee.

Suppose Valiant did put Trump on a comic cover... there would be complaining that Valiant did Hillary first. There would be complaining if the title sells less than Faith (fewer printed). The complaints can be endless, but if you read Valiant, you know Faith would support Hillary. That's what we're getting. It fits Valiant.

Of course it's PR. It's marketing. That's the point... but it fits Faith... and that's also the point.

[DirtbagSailor]

I think it would be perfect if HRC and Big D Trump were both 1%, met at a function and ended up making out with each other while "The Bern" watched from a dark corner while wearing a gimp mask.

A&A would be in the middle of a fight, and would briefly notice this before continuing with the fight.

[Sven the Returned]

It's a PR grab. Marvel waited for Obama to be elected, I believe. VEI is trying to beat everyone else to the starting line.

But VEI has already been political. Putin in Divinity II, and Dysart had Harada assassinate the President of Syria! What does it matter if Hillary is in a story? Is the bigger issue that they put her on the cover? Or just that people don't like her? Heaven forbid someone people don't like gets put in something they do! What if Trump cameo'd on Game of Thrones? Whatever would we do!?!?

Theres also no need to give Trump equal coverage. They're a privately owned media group. They can put whichever public figures they want in their work. Though I'd love to see him revealed as a 1-Percenter...right next to good ol Hills! They can wear elephant and donkey masks respectively.

Who was debating their right to do anything? I have not read Divinity II, but Harbinger had smart non partisan politicking.

[BugsySig]

It's a PR grab. Marvel waited for Obama to be elected, I believe. VEI is trying to beat everyone else to the starting line.

But VEI has already been political. Putin in Divinity II, and Dysart had Harada assassinate the President of Syria! What does it matter if Hillary is in a story? Is the bigger issue that they put her on the cover? Or just that people don't like her? Heaven forbid someone people don't like gets put in something they do! What if Trump cameo'd on Game of Thrones? Whatever would we do!?!?

Theres also no need to give Trump equal coverage. They're a privately owned media group. They can put whichever public figures they want in their work. Though I'd love to see him revealed as a 1-Percenter...right next to good ol Hills! They can wear elephant and donkey masks respectively.

Who was debating their right to do anything? I have not read Divinity II, but Harbinger had smart non partisan politicking.

no debate, but there was some between the lines whining.

[Sven the Returned]

It's a PR grab. Marvel waited for Obama to be elected, I believe. VEI is trying to beat everyone else to the starting line.

But VEI has already been political. Putin in Divinity II, and Dysart had Harada assassinate the President of Syria! What does it matter if Hillary is in a story? Is the bigger issue that they put her on the cover? Or just that people don't like her? Heaven forbid someone people don't like gets put in something they do! What if Trump cameo'd on Game of Thrones? Whatever would we do!?!?

Theres also no need to give Trump equal coverage. They're a privately owned media group. They can put whichever public figures they want in their work. Though I'd love to see him revealed as a 1-Percenter...right next to good ol Hills! They can wear elephant and donkey masks respectively.

Who was debating their right to do anything? I have not read Divinity II, but Harbinger had smart non partisan politicking.

no debate, but there was some between the lines whining.

How can one tell the difference between whinning and complaint on a msg board?

[Jude Terror]

If you think the once tight-knit community of the Valiant Fan Forums now fractured by this divisive political decision is bad, look what this cameo has done to poor Nick Spencer!

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/ ... cameo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BugsySig]

It's a PR grab. Marvel waited for Obama to be elected, I believe. VEI is trying to beat everyone else to the starting line.

But VEI has already been political. Putin in Divinity II, and Dysart had Harada assassinate the President of Syria! What does it matter if Hillary is in a story? Is the bigger issue that they put her on the cover? Or just that people don't like her? Heaven forbid someone people don't like gets put in something they do! What if Trump cameo'd on Game of Thrones? Whatever would we do!?!?

Theres also no need to give Trump equal coverage. They're a privately owned media group. They can put whichever public figures they want in their work. Though I'd love to see him revealed as a 1-Percenter...right next to good ol Hills! They can wear elephant and donkey masks respectively.

Who was debating their right to do anything? I have not read Divinity II, but Harbinger had smart non partisan politicking.

no debate, but there was some between the lines whining.

How can one tell the difference between whinning and complaint on a msg board?

Either way I think my point stands. When you do something political, there's always going to be a large group that doesn't like it. Then again, same goes for a change in direction on a comic, or bringing in a new creator, or cancelling a title. People won't like it, but that doesn't obligate VEI to appease that group. Same goes in this instance.

If Trump makes sense in a story, I think they'd use him. Obama was in Omegas because it involved Harada's politics and the inclusion of the president. Putin was in Divinity because he's Russian. Hillary is in Faith because she's a forerunner for women in a male-dominated industry. That works for Faith, but doesn't mean VEI now has to include Trump just to make sure they hit both sides of the isle (if there's even one isle anymore).

Hell, for all we know Hillary will turn out to be an evil, coniving, *SQUEE* who Faith has to take down--I mean, it's not that far off base. What will the pundits say then?

[mateo107]

VEI has always been left-leaning in its storytelling, anybody who thinks otherwise just hasn't been paying close attention.

[Tony_H]

I think it would be perfect if HRC and Big D Trump were both 1%, met at a function and ended up making out with each other while "The Bern" watched from a dark corner while wearing a gimp mask.

A&A would be in the middle of a fight, and would briefly notice this before continuing with the fight.

Oh, hell yes! Gimp mask!

[Psiot X]

This is a very contentious election with a pair of candidates only loved by extremists on either side be they labeled SJWs or KKK members. Same coin worth of people. Even though I wish they would leave it out, I do get political issues of the day will see a comic book issue once in a while. I am going to skip that issue though. It's just not what I personally want out of my typical monthly read. I am just one guy though.

[jmatt]

This is a dumb move for this reason: They will get some lovely media coverage and the book will get a nice boost in sales. The new readers will stick around for an issue or three and then disappear.

But some of the 6,500 or so dedicated Valiant readers will be put off and drop the title forever, especially if they were already on the fence about it to begin with. And while they're at it and feeling a bit sour, perhaps they'll drop a few other titles as well.

Wearing your politics on your sleeve is just dumb when it comes to comics.

[grendeljd]

I feel sorry for you Americans. On one hand you got a peice of work = trump. And on the other hand Hillary. Both are garbage choices for president. And your only good choice sanders go the boot. California has the total Canadian population your telling me with all these humans and potential presidents hillary and trump are the best you got. That in its self is sad. Hillary is a set up because everyone likes firsts and the first woman in will be the first choice most will make. Because voting for trump is idiocy. what's the point in voting at all sounds like the presidency organisation is making the choice for you.
Good luck ya all!

I feel sorry for us Americans as well.

I've legitimately been researching moving to Canada.

Wow, dude - that's seriously desperate!!

[Tony_H]

Guys, it's not a big deal. I'm old enough to remember the contents of lots of comics from the Reagan years (as a matter of fact, I worked in a comic book store during the 2nd Reagan term and H. W. Bush's term), and he appeared in several books by several publishers, as I recall. Sometimes he was portrayed in a positive light, and other times in a negative light. Take a look at how he's satirized in Miller's first Dark Knight series for crying out loud! And if that ain't enough, re-read The Watchmen: Moore's is no "Shining City on a Hill" RR. Also, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton didn't get off Scott free during the '90s (Grant Morrison was not a Clinton fan, for sure), and somewhere upstairs I've got a copy of a gory indie comic from 1990 or so that shows GHWB getting speared through the chest on the cover.

A few of my fellow geezers may remember this golden oldie from 1986...

[Brother Darque]

Hilary's superpower is her ability to lie.

[IMJ]

The title is Faith, who is Valiant's "groundbreaking female" hero. There's little doubt she would support a "groundbreaking female" presidential nominee.

Suppose Valiant did put Trump on a comic cover... there would be complaining that Valiant did Hillary first. There would be complaining if the title sells less than Faith (fewer printed). The complaints can be endless, but if you read Valiant, you know Faith would support Hillary. That's what we're getting. It fits Valiant.

Of course it's PR. It's marketing. That's the point... but it fits Faith... and that's also the point.

It's a covered attempt at pushing an agenda is what it is. And it's prolific in the hobby, which is notoriously liberal itself. Valiant is a private company though, and obviously can publish and push whatever viewpoint they want.

[sonicdan]

Interview with Warren and Dinesh over at CBR:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/artic ... role-faith" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Psiot X]

Do you think Hillary will cheet on her husband same desk same oval office different secretary ?

Do they make big enough strapons for her?

Forget the rubber, those Clintons have a thing for misusing a cigar.

[Sven the Returned]

Interview with Warren and Dinesh over at CBR:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/artic ... role-faith" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This calmed me down a bit.

VEI has always been left-leaning in its storytelling, anybody who thinks otherwise just hasn't been paying close attention.

In what way in the NuValiant?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/artic ... role-faith" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We floated the idea during an all-hands meeting to the entire office, whose political make up is as diverse as the political system itself, and the staff unanimously fell in love with the idea. So much so that they wouldn’t let us not do it!

I trust them more than Amazon who lied about Alpha House taking aim at both sides.

[jshelton2001]

If you think the once tight-knit community of the Valiant Fan Forums now fractured by this divisive political decision is bad, look what this cameo has done to poor Nick Spencer!

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/ ... cameo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Socialism doesnt quite agree with comics. The more money Im taxed = less money for comics. I'm probably a bit more abrasive than the average Valiant fan, & Nick Spencer is a ***squee*** It has nothing to do with Captain America & everything to do with him. I spend tons of money on comics & this sort of thing is why I don't spend with a lot of publishers. I hoped Valiant would kinda stay away from it. I loved Imperium, even though I disagree with Socialism. It was written intelligently. This smells of a quick buck, & I hope they make it. Im not buying Faith to begin with so theres no backlash here. Im looking forward to Brittania & the like.

[jshelton2001]

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