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agent_graves wrote:
CongoBill wrote:And I don't think Raul Allen's art was bad, but it's just so different from Mann's work so it will take some getting used to.
No worries there, this arc has rotating artist, Mann will be back to finished the arc in November's issue #9.

Actually, I would prefer they keep one artist on the story arc. Unless there is a specific storytelling reason to have two such contrasting art styles on one story arc, I don't think it makes a lot of sense.

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CongoBill wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
CongoBill wrote:And I don't think Raul Allen's art was bad, but it's just so different from Mann's work so it will take some getting used to.
No worries there, this arc has rotating artist, Mann will be back to finished the arc in November's issue #9.

Actually, I would prefer they keep one artist on the story arc. Unless there is a specific storytelling reason to have two such contrasting art styles on one story arc, I don't think it makes a lot of sense.
I'd prefer more of Raul Allen took this issue looked spectacular. But I can see how the Shadow Seven arc makes sense for rotating artists, what with being Ninjak vs. a different one every issue.

This issue was excellent, and I liked La Barbe. He was fun! And adding a bunch of James Bond villains with ninja roots to the VU is a great thing. They could crop up elsewhere pretty easily.

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CongoBill wrote:
agent_graves wrote:
CongoBill wrote:And I don't think Raul Allen's art was bad, but it's just so different from Mann's work so it will take some getting used to.
No worries there, this arc has rotating artist, Mann will be back to finished the arc in November's issue #9.

Actually, I would prefer they keep one artist on the story arc. Unless there is a specific storytelling reason to have two such contrasting art styles on one story arc, I don't think it makes a lot of sense.
Me too, but this arc was announced https://games.yahoo.com/news/c2e2-2015- ... 00043.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this way. Four part story, 4 different artist.
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I thought the art saved what was a boring story. I'm glad to be done with le Barbe, but I'm afraid the other bad guys look just as dumb

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I'm really not a fan of Kind-ts villain designs.

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wwise03 wrote:I'm glad to be done with le Barbe, but I'm afraid the other bad guys look just as dumb
+1 :lol:

I'm really not a fan of Kind-ts villain designs.
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I'm enjoying Ninjak far more than I thought I would. I've always classed Ninjak as a 'B' level character due to the overly similar Batman/James Bond likeness and the purple clothes! However, Kindt has turned me into a believer with this run.

I enjoyed the intro into new character The Barbe and I can imagine seeing more of this character as a Ninjak villain. Good to see Kindt building an interesting cast of villain characters for Ninjak in the future.

It's great to have the back up story each month too, makes the book a much more substantial read, wonder what the financial logistics of this is for VEI? Can this happen in the other books too?

4/5 - enjoyed both stories and Raul Allen's art was excellent too! :thumb:

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I didn't hate Raul Allen's art style, but I definitely got a "Ninjak: The Animated Series" vibe when reading this issue. It didn't seem as "serious" as the previous art style. Maybe a young Ninjak series with Raul Allen as the main artist would be cool.

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I liked Allen's art, it's crisp, liked his facial expressions, some interesting panel layouts for the action scenes.

What I didn't like was the villain. What was his schitck? He has more money than Harada and he can out-tech Colin? On the one hand, I'm glad this encounter wasn't drawn out too long but on the other hand, for being one of 'the seven most dangerous people in the world', he sure went down easy, one punch...after launching three laser drones at our hero. It just seemed like a let-down for all the build-up.

As for Angelina, I too got the sense that she was Nelville's wife and that they've been married for a year or so. To me, that strengthens Colin's memory flashback after Nelville declares that he wants to find who betrayed her. That could also add another underlying layer to their working relationship (or even friendship?)

Could that be the Shadow Seven that beat the *SQUEE* out of Colin at the monastery? (There were seven figures standing around his prone body)

Still an enjoyable title despite the quibbles.

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String wrote: What I didn't like was the villain. What was his schitck? He has more money than Harada and he can out-tech Colin? On the one hand, I'm glad this encounter wasn't drawn out too long but on the other hand, for being one of 'the seven most dangerous people in the world', he sure went down easy, one punch...after launching three laser drones at our hero. It just seemed like a let-down for all the build-up.
I think maybe he's one of the seven most dangerous people due to his ability and willingness to make WMD as opposed to his physical fighting ability. I guess similar to the Joker or the Penguin, they aren't great fighters but their willingness to cause death and destruction makes them dangerous.

I think La Barbe will be a good villain in the long run. :thumb:

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NinJZA wrote:I didn't hate Raul Allen's art style, but I definitely got a "Ninjak: The Animated Series" vibe when reading this issue. It didn't seem as "serious" as the previous art style. Maybe a young Ninjak series with Raul Allen as the main artist would be cool.
The cartoon show 'Archer' was what sprang to mind when I first read it. I like the art, but it did have a very cartoonish look to it.

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Blood of Heroes wrote:
NinJZA wrote:I didn't hate Raul Allen's art style, but I definitely got a "Ninjak: The Animated Series" vibe when reading this issue. It didn't seem as "serious" as the previous art style. Maybe a young Ninjak series with Raul Allen as the main artist would be cool.
The cartoon show 'Archer' was what sprang to mind when I first read it. I like the art, but it did have a very cartoonish look to it.
I wouldn't describe Archer as cartoonish, despite being animated. It's very heavily photo referenced and detailed, with the characters actually physically modelled on real people. The stories, though, are fantastically cartoonish at times.

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hunter_peterson wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
NinJZA wrote:I didn't hate Raul Allen's art style, but I definitely got a "Ninjak: The Animated Series" vibe when reading this issue. It didn't seem as "serious" as the previous art style. Maybe a young Ninjak series with Raul Allen as the main artist would be cool.
The cartoon show 'Archer' was what sprang to mind when I first read it. I like the art, but it did have a very cartoonish look to it.
I wouldn't describe Archer as cartoonish, despite being animated. It's very heavily photo referenced and detailed, with the characters actually physically modelled on real people. The stories, though, are fantastically cartoonish at times.
You're right. I didn't mean mean that it was cartoonish like The Simpsons. The issue just looked to me like it was drawn by the Archer animators.

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Blood of Heroes wrote:
hunter_peterson wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
NinJZA wrote:I didn't hate Raul Allen's art style, but I definitely got a "Ninjak: The Animated Series" vibe when reading this issue. It didn't seem as "serious" as the previous art style. Maybe a young Ninjak series with Raul Allen as the main artist would be cool.
The cartoon show 'Archer' was what sprang to mind when I first read it. I like the art, but it did have a very cartoonish look to it.
I wouldn't describe Archer as cartoonish, despite being animated. It's very heavily photo referenced and detailed, with the characters actually physically modelled on real people. The stories, though, are fantastically cartoonish at times.
You're right. I didn't mean mean that it was cartoonish like The Simpsons. The issue just looked to me like it was drawn by the Archer animators.
I get that feeling from Grayson. :D

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Yeah the art does have a sort of Archer vibe to it, but I think that's just coincidental since Archer and Ninjak both draw pretty heavily from old 60's spy fiction. Thinking about it now, how great would an Archer reference be? Someone's code-name should be Duchess :lol:
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ChiptheRipper wrote:Yeah the art does have a sort of Archer vibe to it, but I think that's just coincidental since Archer and Ninjak both draw pretty heavily from old 60's spy fiction. Thinking about it now, how great would an Archer reference be? Someone's code-name should be Duchess :lol:
That would be awesome! :lol:

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So this turned a bit kookier than I was expecting it to, but I actually don't mind right now. It's still well-written and does well preserving the spy thriller feel. Ninjak continues to be awesome without becoming too OP, and the backstory is continuing to interest.

Between Kannon the sumo wrestler, La Barbe the hacker ball-master, and what looks like a mutant zombie in a tutu, the Shadow Seven has already turned into a Quirky Miniboss Squad. If they had a more consistent theme they'd fit right along with the villains of Metal Gear Solid.

Finally, I'm now imagining Ninjak voiced by H. Jon Benjamin, and y'know what? It works damn well. Shame there's no British accent, but it'll do.

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Watchtower wrote:So this turned a bit kookier than I was expecting it to, but I actually don't mind right now. It's still well-written and does well preserving the spy thriller feel. Ninjak continues to be awesome without becoming too OP, and the backstory is continuing to interest.

Between Kannon the sumo wrestler, La Barbe the hacker ball-master, and what looks like a mutant zombie in a tutu, the Shadow Seven has already turned into a Quirky Miniboss Squad. If they had a more consistent theme they'd fit right along with the villains of Metal Gear Solid.

Finally, I'm now imagining Ninjak voiced by H. Jon Benjamin, and y'know what? It works damn well. Shame there's no British accent, but it'll do.
Ninjak logically would only have an accent when he wants to, so imagine away. I imagine him with Benedict Cumberbatch's voice. :P

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hunter_peterson wrote:
Ninjak logically would only have an accent when he wants to, so imagine away.
That's probably true, and I hadn't even thought of that before. That's cool as hell, now I'm imagining him talking like Jon Benjamin in public and then sounding like Cumberbatch when he's back home and doesn't have to hide it :lol:
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ChiptheRipper wrote:
hunter_peterson wrote:
Ninjak logically would only have an accent when he wants to, so imagine away.
That's probably true, and I hadn't even thought of that before. That's cool as hell, now I'm imagining him talking like Jon Benjamin in public and then sounding like Cumberbatch when he's back home and doesn't have to hide it :lol:
In this issue Ninjak directly says he speaks French in a regional accent, so it's totally in his skillset.

I....never knew I wanted this as much as I do now. :cloud9:

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I thought the contemporary art was fine and fitting to the story. The villain just felt disposable and silly. The back-up was fine.

I will give this an overall 'okay'.
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