questions about a seller

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:42 am

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... =3&rows=50

well I think that it is safe to assume that we all know about this guy by now...last week he started offering some choice books...well now it seems that before the current auctions end he is offering the same set of books again. Does this seem starnge to anyone...I might just be paranoid but I am usually when it comes to ebay. I never trust anyone on there..having multiple EW 27 VVSS does not really concern me it is the fact that have has several of those along with fantastic four 239-242(or something like that) and rune 0 that he also offeres up each time...just seems off to me...

tssgery · Post by **tssgery** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:49 am

Having bought about 10 books from him in the last week, I hope everything is on the up and up.

He's been responsive to emails and his past feedback is positive so I don't think we have anything to be concerned about. At least I hope not...

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:19 am

yeah the guy has a history of selling comics...I was just thinking that maybe someone jacked his account and was just rerunning the last auctions that he had up. I bought a couple of things from him also so i hope that it is on the up and up and I kinda think that it is, but I just thought that I would bring this up. just seemed odd that he would keep running the exact same auction right after each other...

tssgery · Post by **tssgery** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:24 pm

For what it's worth...

I just got my first shipment of books ordered from this person.

They were packed excellently, and were exactly as described..

Master Dorque · Post by **Master Dorque** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:16 pm

The Feedback Rating says it all. He has 1566 positive feedbacks, 993 from unique buyers/sellers, for a 99.8% positive feedback percentage. That is pretty impressive, when you think he has had over 1500 transactions, and only 2 negative feedbacks. Even a seller who does everything perfectly will get an occasional negative from some nut looking to make a statement or just being mean and stupid. So apparently this guy has just had the good fortune to own multiple copies of those cool books we all want. Lucky him. I wouldn't hesitate at all to bid on his stuff.

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:33 pm

Master Dorque wrote:The Feedback Rating says it all. He has 1566 positive feedbacks, 993 from unique buyers/sellers, for a 99.8% positive feedback percentage. That is pretty impressive, when you think he has had over 1500 transactions, and only 2 negative feedbacks. Even a seller who does everything perfectly will get an occasional negative from some nut looking to make a statement or just being mean and stupid. So apparently this guy has just had the good fortune to own multiple copies of those cool books we all want. Lucky him. I wouldn't hesitate at all to bid on his stuff.

What I was thinking was that the account got hijacked since the person was relisting the exact same items over and over again...We have someone saying that they have just gotten a package from him so it might be legit...if I was going to hijack an account I would try one that had a couple hundred if not thousand feedbacks to help alievate some concerns...I would not hijack an account with 5 positives and 2 negs....I am not saying that this guy is ripping people off or anything like that...I jsut thought that it looked strange that I would point it out...that is all

[rant about feedback] Feedback really is starting to become completely useless...between retalitory negs and people not giving it or holding it "hostage" people are afraid to give negs when they get screwed because the other guy will also give you a neg. So now people will not give feedback until the other person gives it....this is reatrded...if I win an auction and then pay for it. I have completed my end of the deal I should get a positive but now sellers want to wait until I post a positive until they will give me one fearing the neg...also the reply stuff is just retarded...then you got people who just neg because they can...also espically in comics people do not know that they are getting ripped off. I could be passing restored comics as unrestored yet I could have a very good feedback rating since few of my customers are getting them checked for restoration...Really I am ripping people off but they are happy to give me a positive. Oh yeah the fact that people's good account get hijacked by scam artist [/rant]

Master Dorque · Post by **Master Dorque** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:08 pm

Yeah, I agree, the retaliation feedback issue is a problem. I know that the few times I have been stiffed by deadbeat bidders I was afraid to leave negative for fear of the undeserved retaliation tarnishing my spotless rating. I usually just add the deadbeats name to my "restricted" list preventing them from bidding on my stuff again. As far as Ebay scams, I've never heard of anybody "highjacking" someone elses Ebay identity, but I'm sure some evil minds are probably hard at work trying to find ways to do it. One Ebay scam I have heard of is where guys set up business selling low end items, really cheap stuff, and do business this way for awhile, selling lots of stuff and compiling a large positive feedback rating. Then, they switch there MO to high end items, like expensive electronics, stereo equipment, digital cameras and stuff like that. They list a whole bunch of auctions simultaneously every day for about a week. Then when the auctions end payments come in they take the money and run. By the time the first negatives show up its all over, and lots of bidder have gotten ripped off. That's why I always like to check out the completed items from the other persons feedback rating, to make sure the person has a good reputation selling the type of item I'm interested in.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:29 pm

I've never heard of anybody "highjacking" someone elses Ebay identity

Happened to me last week, I went to check my email and saw one from ebay claiming my password was changed. Then another 4 emails changing my email address and finally one listing 36 dutch auctions for camera phones at $300 a pop. Luckily I caught right after it happened and alerted ebay. They cancelled the listing, refunded the listing fee and reverted the account back to me. Very scary stuff to have happen.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:37 pm

DawgPhan wrote:
[rant about feedback] Feedback really is starting to become completely useless...

Feedback has been useles, outside of the most general and broad indications, since day 1.

f I win an auction and then pay for it. I have completed my end of the deal I should get a positive but now sellers want to wait until I post a positive until they will give me one fearing the neg

This is an OLDDDD topic on the eBay comics board. In reality, you haven't completed your end of the deal. You haven't received anything, and you haven't let the seller know if the transaction is satisfactory if it was, or worked on a solution if it wasn't. It is and ONLY THEN, after the transaction is 100% over, that you have truly 'completed your end of the deal'. The concern about retaliation feedback is a valid one, but not the real reason sellers (should) wait.

If a buyer receives an item that they're not happy with...or doesn't receive it at all...and the seller bends over BACKWARDS to accomodate the buyer, but the buyer becomes totally hostile and unreasonable...why then would a seller abdicate his/her right to leave feedback for this totally irrational buyer? Didn't the buyer already 'complete his end of the deal', and therefore the seller is obligated to leave a positive? Of COURSE not. Because the buyer DIDN'T complete his end of the deal by allowing the seller to work with him on his problem, and, by the same token, a seller should have the right of redress if a buyer goes off the deep end for some reason.

Buyers ARE obligated to work with sellers as much as possible when they have a problem (of course, 99.9995% of the time, it's the SELLER who's an *SQUEE*, but that's a different story)

If you receive the item, let the seller know you're happy with it (in writing), but don't leave feedback...and the seller REFUSES to leave it until you do first...then yes, that's hostage...otherwise, it's just not. All feedback SHOULD be held until AFTER the WHOLE transaction is over. Why would anyone leave it in the MIDDLE of an uncompleted transaction?

kryptonitecomics · Post by **kryptonitecomics** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:03 pm

dellamorte wrote:
I've never heard of anybody "highjacking" someone elses Ebay identity
Happened to me last week, I went to check my email and saw one from ebay claiming my password was changed. Then another 4 emails changing my email address and finally one listing 36 dutch auctions for camera phones at $300 a pop. Luckily I caught right after it happened and alerted ebay. They cancelled the listing, refunded the listing fee and reverted the account back to me. Very scary stuff to have happen.

I had it happen a few months ago and a guy in spain was selling computers and Plasma screen TV's on my account. I Ebay every day so it wasn't tough to catch it right away and notify Ebay to cancel the auction.

As for the other comments about feedback, I have 1472 positives, with 1187 unique and I just received my second negative in 5 years, why????

A guy in Hong Kong won one of my auctions and after 22 days of no payment and 2+ weeks of no e-mails...I left him negative feedback. His claim was that he e-mailed me and I never responded, and that his paypal account was down. Funny, the day I left the negative he found a way to contact me within hours.......as for Paypal being down, I told him I took M.O. and Checks..........idiot!!! :x

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:11 pm

But the whole system is so effective - no flaws at all. Perfectly executed and consistant rules, effective self-policing method. No fraud to speak of. Why overhall it? Some people....

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:57 pm

ckb wrote:But the whole system is so effective - no flaws at all. Perfectly executed and consistant rules, effective self-policing method. No fraud to speak of. Why overhall it? Some people....

I think I might have to sue you. You made me fall out of my chair! Now my back hurts.

qrnd · Post by **qrnd** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:56 am

Keep trying that line, Im sure it will work eventually.

jasons-auctions · Post by **jasons-auctions** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:14 am

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
DawgPhan wrote:
[rant about feedback] Feedback really is starting to become completely useless...
Feedback has been useles, outside of the most general and broad indications, since day 1.

f I win an auction and then pay for it. I have completed my end of the deal I should get a positive but now sellers want to wait until I post a positive until they will give me one fearing the neg
This is an OLDDDD topic on the eBay comics board. In reality, you haven't completed your end of the deal. You haven't received anything, and you haven't let the seller know if the transaction is satisfactory if it was, or worked on a solution if it wasn't. It is and ONLY THEN, after the transaction is 100% over, that you have truly 'completed your end of the deal'. The concern about retaliation feedback is a valid one, but not the real reason sellers (should) wait.

If a buyer receives an item that they're not happy with...or doesn't receive it at all...and the seller bends over BACKWARDS to accomodate the buyer, but the buyer becomes totally hostile and unreasonable...why then would a seller abdicate his/her right to leave feedback for this totally irrational buyer? Didn't the buyer already 'complete his end of the deal', and therefore the seller is obligated to leave a positive? Of COURSE not. Because the buyer DIDN'T complete his end of the deal by allowing the seller to work with him on his problem, and, by the same token, a seller should have the right of redress if a buyer goes off the deep end for some reason.

Buyers ARE obligated to work with sellers as much as possible when they have a problem (of course, 99.9995% of the time, it's the SELLER who's an *SQUEE*, but that's a different story)

If you receive the item, let the seller know you're happy with it (in writing), but don't leave feedback...and the seller REFUSES to leave it until you do first...then yes, that's hostage...otherwise, it's just not. All feedback SHOULD be held until AFTER the WHOLE transaction is over. Why would anyone leave it in the MIDDLE of an uncompleted transaction?

Well I love chiming in on the Feedback debates involving leaving feedback and when the appropriate time is to initiate this action.

In my view the appropriate time is when the buyer of a item on eBay receives the item he or she bought and is happy with it and the way it arrived. The buyer simply needs to go to the item in question hit the leave feedback link and leave positive feedback. I the seller will return it in kind as soon as I am able.

Now I realize some people worry about making a effort and getting skunked on return feedback or getting bad feedback somehow from the seller. There are some very lazy sellers out there who do not return feedback. I am not one of them

. I return all feedback left for me first only. Now why do I do this.

It is simple the only thing buyers have available to them immediately to tell if a Seller is on the straight and narrow is feedback. This is why I protect my feedback to the utmost. It is the only tool of reference for buyers to see I am a honest seller. I have also had bad dealings with some buyers, who rather than contact me to square away problems like civilizied people decide to leave me immediate negs and not communicate to me in anyway their problem and allow me to correct it. This leaves me the ability to strike back, hate to say it but that's the only defense one has against these types is to warn others to cancel the buyers bids and not deal with. I have also been recipiant of feedback that was supposed to be left for someone else amazingly and yes they were negs.........

This blows my mind but it happened again recently though the comment was positive the statement said I could not grade. After contact with the person they said they left in on accident and things were fixed but feedback is permanent, unless you want to pay Squaretrade $20 each to remove negs from unscrupulous people which sometimes does not always happen. Last time it did it took $60.00 of my money and 6 1/2 months of phone calls to eBay and Squaretrade to remove them completely......an absolute pain in the butt!!!!

Unfortunately not everyone is as honest on eBay as myself (note that's not my ego talking, I just am

). So buyers definately should not leave feedback till they are satisfied with the outcome of the transaction. If this does not occur on the part of the seller, after proper communcation was made and some time has passed then, appropriate feedback should be left. Nothing hurts a legitimate Seller more than negatives and bad press, word of mouth on message boards etc. For buyers a retalitory negative could be a issue cause everyone wants to look on the up and up, but trust me most sellers rarely look at a buyers feedback unless you have a 0 or negative number.

Questions? Comments? Snide Remarks?

kryptonitecomics · Post by **kryptonitecomics** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:33 am

uruchuu wrote:Keep trying that line, Im sure it will work eventually.

Ok if that didn't work them let me try the old, :idea: I'll fly up their and help you pack your comics up to ship them down to Florida

There is that more effective

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:27 pm

So you don't believe me?

x-omatic wrote:
ckb wrote:But the whole system is so effective - no flaws at all. Perfectly executed and consistant rules, effective self-policing method. No fraud to speak of. Why overhall it? Some people....
I think I might have to sue you. You made me fall out of my chair! Now my back hurts.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:32 pm

Just adding a "transactions with pending feedback" and "transactions with no feedback" would help tremendously.

Increasing the auction retention to 6 months would help even more. Throw away the pictures, just keep the text so we can see what the heck was going on.

kenshikenji wrote:there is that antiquated proverb, "if its not broken, why fix it?". as a budding philosopher i dont believe that. I dont believe in perfection, so i think there is always room for improvement. As an earlier poster mentioned, buyers feel like they are being held captive and they usually withhold neg feedback in fear of seller retaliation. we cant get a bona fide evaluation on how good the seller is. i feel that ebay should adjust the feedback to reflect several criteria, speed of delivery, quality of merchandise, commication (on the seller side), speed of payment, and maybe customer communication (on buyers side). that way this will force both sides to conduct business in a professional manner. what do you guys think?

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:57 pm

ckb wrote:So you don't believe me?

x-omatic wrote:
ckb wrote:But the whole system is so effective - no flaws at all. Perfectly executed and consistant rules, effective self-policing method. No fraud to speak of. Why overhall it? Some people....
I think I might have to sue you. You made me fall out of my chair! Now my back hurts.

.

The pain The pain ... make it stop....

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:23 pm

I got a feedback winner. On Dec 30, 1999, a Thursday I believe, I had some auctions end. Seeing as how it was a major holiday and all, and right on the weekend, I figured my bidders wouldn't mind me getting around to winning bidder notifications (this was lonnnnng before automated anything) until Sunday, Jan 2. I was in Times Square on the 1st, a Friday night/Saturday morning, and had the TIME of my life with 3 million other people in a 15 square block area. Amazing.

Anyhoo, long story short....on Jan 2nd, Sunday morning, a high bidder left a neutral (which is only a weak negative, there's no such thing as a 'positive' neutral) stating 'no e-mail, no contact whatsoever, etc'...which I missed, of course, cause I was in the middle of sending out high bidder notifications. One business day after auction ended, less than 60 hours total after the auction ended, over a weekend AND a major holiday AND Y2K....and this guy had nothing better to do on a Sunday morning than permanently damage a feedback rating because he felt like it. By the way, he didn't even bother to send an e-mail about it. Just left the neutral.

I was, of course, pretty dumbfounded. But, hey....just goes to show....there are psychotics out there who simply don't know what the words 'justice', 'integrity', and 'character' mean. People like this are in desperate need of 'what comes around goes around.'