Anni-Padda Origins

Discuss the VALIANT comics, characters, and collecting.
PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL SPOILER INFORMATION IN YOUR TOPIC TITLE.

Moderators: Daniel Jackson, greg

Post Reply
User avatar
ManofTheAtom
Deathmate was cool
Deathmate was cool
Posts: 13429
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Mexico City
Contact:
Anni-Padda Origins

Post by ManofTheAtom »

According to Timewalker #0, VH-1 Ivar was born in 4,000 BC (give or take).

According to Eternal Warriors: The Immortal Enemy, the VH-2 Anni-Padda brothers were children during the Viking Age (sometime between 800 and 1050 AD/CE).

Lastly, according to Archer & Armstrong #0, the VEI Anni-Padda brothers were adult men in Ancient Sumeria (circa 2100 BCE).

That would make the VH-1 versions the oldest, the VH-2 versions the youngest, and the VEI versions in the middle.

Wonder where the Beyond versions will fall.

I'd say that the VEI versions had the stronger origin. It was certainly better developed.

They went from being experimented by a woman from the future, to gaining their immortality from eating a plant that fell from space, to becoming immortal from being exposed to a highly-advanced form of technology (the Boon).

I will say that I do think that VEI Ivar's development did suffer a bit due to his long-imprisonment. In contrast to that, the VH-1 version had more adventures through time.

One, VH-1, learned by doing, while the other, VEI, learned by watching.

Image

Image

Image
:atomic: Comics are like a Rorschach test, everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be... :atomic:

User avatar
Chiclo
I'm Chiclo. My strong Dongs paid off well.
I'm Chiclo.  My strong Dongs paid off well.
Posts: 22011
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:09 am
Favorite character: Kris
Location: Texas
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by Chiclo »

Re: the timing of the VEI Sumerian origins - I had to double check, and there was a brief restoration of Sumerian rule in southern Mesopotamia around that time but for the most part, Sumerians had been displaced by Akkadians around that time. 2100 BC would be maybe a bit before Abraham from the Bible, probably contemporary with Job? Or perhaps Terah, the father of Abraham. The Bible says Abraham came from Ur of the Chaldees, which would have been near the region of Sumeria.

ZephyrWasHOT!!
Chief of the Dia Tribe
Chief of the Dia Tribe
Posts: 22415
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:55 pm
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by ZephyrWasHOT!! »

Hello Chiclo.

Good to see you're still alive.

Are you an oil baron still?

User avatar
ManofTheAtom
Deathmate was cool
Deathmate was cool
Posts: 13429
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Mexico City
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by ManofTheAtom »

Chiclo wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:52 pm Re: the timing of the VEI Sumerian origins - I had to double check, and there was a brief restoration of Sumerian rule in southern Mesopotamia around that time but for the most part, Sumerians had been displaced by Akkadians around that time. 2100 BC would be maybe a bit before Abraham from the Bible, probably contemporary with Job? Or perhaps Terah, the father of Abraham. The Bible says Abraham came from Ur of the Chaldees, which would have been near the region of Sumeria.
Okay. I used the information on Wikipedia, heh.
:atomic: Comics are like a Rorschach test, everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be... :atomic:

User avatar
ManofTheAtom
Deathmate was cool
Deathmate was cool
Posts: 13429
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Mexico City
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by ManofTheAtom »

The Epic of Gilgamesh was written between 2100 and 1000 BC, with the most complete version dating to around 1300–1000 BC:
That would be the range for when the events in Archer & Armstrong #0 took place.
:atomic: Comics are like a Rorschach test, everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be... :atomic:

User avatar
Chiclo
I'm Chiclo. My strong Dongs paid off well.
I'm Chiclo.  My strong Dongs paid off well.
Posts: 22011
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:09 am
Favorite character: Kris
Location: Texas
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by Chiclo »

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:20 pm Hello Chiclo.

Good to see you're still alive.

Are you an oil baron still?
No. Not even a solar farm baron either.

User avatar
Chiclo
I'm Chiclo. My strong Dongs paid off well.
I'm Chiclo.  My strong Dongs paid off well.
Posts: 22011
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:09 am
Favorite character: Kris
Location: Texas
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by Chiclo »

ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:07 am
The Epic of Gilgamesh was written between 2100 and 1000 BC, with the most complete version dating to around 1300–1000 BC:
That would be the range for when the events in Archer & Armstrong #0 took place.
Ok, that works better as a basis for that date.

Still, Enuma Elish/Gilgamesh was assembled out of several previously extant pieces and the epic evolved over several centuries. If they are basing the stories on historical events, those events would have to happened 2000+ years BC.

User avatar
ManofTheAtom
Deathmate was cool
Deathmate was cool
Posts: 13429
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:19 pm
Location: Mexico City
Contact:
Re: Anni-Padda Origins

Post by ManofTheAtom »

Chiclo wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:07 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:07 am
The Epic of Gilgamesh was written between 2100 and 1000 BC, with the most complete version dating to around 1300–1000 BC:
That would be the range for when the events in Archer & Armstrong #0 took place.
Ok, that works better as a basis for that date.

Still, Enuma Elish/Gilgamesh was assembled out of several previously extant pieces and the epic evolved over several centuries. If they are basing the stories on historical events, those events would have to happened 2000+ years BC.
Cool.
:atomic: Comics are like a Rorschach test, everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be... :atomic:


Post Reply