I know they both smashed robots in Unity but

[jakgrimm]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

[Ryan]

Tough one - I'll go Magnus for brute strength but Gilad for durability.

[magnusr]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

There's this scene in Steel Nation where Magnus is fighting off robots all night. I can't see Gilad managing that.

/Magnus

[ManofTheAtom]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

[Ryan]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

There's this scene in Steel Nation where Magnus is fighting off robots all night. I can't see Gilad managing that.

/Magnus

Right, I agree. But if Gilad gets completely wrecked by the robots, his regenerative abilities are better than Magnus'.

[jakgrimm]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

[jakgrimm]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

There's this scene in Steel Nation where Magnus is fighting off robots all night. I can't see Gilad managing that.

/Magnus

Right, I agree. But if Gilad gets completely wrecked by the robots, his regenerative abilities are better than Magnus'.

Not saying that they're equal but remember when Gilad held that bridge against Genghis Khan? The bodies were piled high.....

[Chiclo]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

There's this scene in Steel Nation where Magnus is fighting off robots all night. I can't see Gilad managing that.

/Magnus

Right, I agree. But if Gilad gets completely wrecked by the robots, his regenerative abilities are better than Magnus'.

Not saying that they're equal but remember when Gilad held that bridge against Genghis Khan? The bodies were piled high.....

coughcoughAtillaTheHuncoughcough

That was what, 35? The one where Gilad is basically the Highlander?

[jakgrimm]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

There's this scene in Steel Nation where Magnus is fighting off robots all night. I can't see Gilad managing that.

/Magnus

Right, I agree. But if Gilad gets completely wrecked by the robots, his regenerative abilities are better than Magnus'.

Not saying that they're equal but remember when Gilad held that bridge against Genghis Khan? The bodies were piled high.....

coughcoughAtillaTheHuncoughcough

That was what, 35? The one where Gilad is basically the Highlander?

Ah shoot my bad. get that cough looked at haha

[ManofTheAtom]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

[Ryan]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

Did all Harbingers need to be popped by an Omega or experience a trauma for their powers to manifest? I know many did, but did all of them?

Maybe the intense training by 1-A triggered him.

[ManofTheAtom]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

Did all Harbingers need to be popped by an Omega or experience a trauma for their powers to manifest? I know many did, but did all of them?

Maybe the intense training by 1-A triggered him.

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

[Ryan]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

[Ryan]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

A related question is who is the better fighter? Gilad had mastered every martial art known to man, while Magnus was trained since birth in the most scientifically perfect martial art ever, developed by a sentient robot

[ManofTheAtom]

who would you say is stronger - Magnus or Gilad?

Not saying that they're equal but remember when Gilad held that bridge against Genghis Khan? The bodies were piled high.....

A related question is who is the better fighter? Gilad had mastered every martial art known to man, while Magnus was trained since birth in the most scientifically perfect martial developed by a sentient robot
[/quote]

Gilad since he lived several lifetimes, much longer than Magnus did.

[Ryan]

Gilad since he lived several lifetimes, much longer than Magnus did.

That is quite the advantage

[ManofTheAtom]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

Heh.

Possibly. Magnus thought he was a robot until he read Kris' letter, no? That would be traumatic.

That's another thing from Rai #0. What was that in, Magnus #25?

[Ryan]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

Heh.

Possibly. Magnus thought he was a robot until he read Kris' letter, no? That would be traumatic.

That's another thing from Rai #0. What was that in, Magnus #25?

I'd have to check. There was also the Harbinger issue with Magnus.

[ManofTheAtom]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

Heh.

Possibly. Magnus thought he was a robot until he read Kris' letter, no? That would be traumatic.

That's another thing from Rai #0. What was that in, Magnus #25?

I'd have to check. There was also the Harbinger issue with Magnus.

Just did, and edited the other thread accordingly.

[Ryan]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

Heh.

Possibly. Magnus thought he was a robot until he read Kris' letter, no? That would be traumatic.

That's another thing from Rai #0. What was that in, Magnus #25?

I'd have to check. There was also the Harbinger issue with Magnus.

Just did, and edited the other thread accordingly.

And yeah I think 1-A's way of raising Magnus would qualify as child abuse.

[ManofTheAtom]

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

Cool. What counts as trauma can be pretty broad though. Some people experience trauma just reading the Valiantfans.com board

It's possible that 1-A, knowing Magnus was a latent Harbinger, triggered his powers in a safer more scientific way that had been developed in the future.

Heh.

Possibly. Magnus thought he was a robot until he read Kris' letter, no? That would be traumatic.

That's another thing from Rai #0. What was that in, Magnus #25?

I'd have to check. There was also the Harbinger issue with Magnus.

Just did, and edited the other thread accordingly.

And yeah I think 1-A's way of raising Magnus would qualify as child abuse.

Indeed, heh.

[jakgrimm]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

Did all Harbingers need to be popped by an Omega or experience a trauma for their powers to manifest? I know many did, but did all of them?

Maybe the intense training by 1-A triggered him.

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

What we read in the Harbinger books is about the first generation of Harbingers. How many second generation Harbies do we know of? I can think of only Magnus ands Rai jr.. Magnus' son Torque is 3rd gen. Perhaps second gens don't need popping.

[Ryan]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

Did all Harbingers need to be popped by an Omega or experience a trauma for their powers to manifest? I know many did, but did all of them?

Maybe the intense training by 1-A triggered him.

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

What we read in the Harbinger books is about the first generation of Harbingers. How many second generation Harbies do we know of? I can think of only Magnus ands Rai jr.. Magnus' son Torque is 3rd gen. Perhaps second gens don't need popping.

Good point, I don't remember Torque (Mag's son) having to be activated in any way.

[ManofTheAtom]

Magnus' Harbinger ability is to make his hands as strong as steel.

Gilad is the fist and steel of the Earth.

An argument can be made that Magnus' ability makes him Gilad's equal.

Haha wow great point!

Glad someone agrees - Magnus got his strength from Torque and his own ability is to make his skin tough as metal.

Ever wonder who 'brain popped' Magnus? Or what trauma led to his manifestation

I hadn't until now, but his life before he arrived in North Am was certainly traumatic.

Did all Harbingers need to be popped by an Omega or experience a trauma for their powers to manifest? I know many did, but did all of them?

Maybe the intense training by 1-A triggered him.

I think so. I cannot recall anyone that activated without either.

What we read in the Harbinger books is about the first generation of Harbingers. How many second generation Harbies do we know of? I can think of only Magnus ands Rai jr.. Magnus' son Torque is 3rd gen. Perhaps second gens don't need popping.

That should have been covered in a proper telling of the Harbinger Wars.

[Ryan]

What we read in the Harbinger books is about the first generation of Harbingers. How many second generation Harbies do we know of? I can think of only Magnus ands Rai jr.. Magnus' son Torque is 3rd gen. Perhaps second gens don't need popping.

That should have been covered in a proper telling of the Harbinger Wars.

No doubt. Some of the rules around Harbingers would probably have evolved by that time. Another one to add to the list, a proper telling of the VH1 Harbinger Wars