Legend of the Geomancer Opinion Poll

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:05:09 pm

Valiant's plan for Legend of the Geomancer has certainly proved contentious on the forum. Let's give it ye olde poll!

Dallow Spicer1 · Post by **Dallow Spicer1** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:16:49 pm

Not a big fan of FVL so not too fussed about this...now if it was a Vditti story then I might feel differently.

It's an interesting promotion tool and I can see the benefits, but wouldn't it have been better to have a 1990's type 'coupon in each issue' deal as most readers would have bought 2 x copies, one to read/keep and one for the coupons, ergo increasing sales!

As mentioned in one of the podcasts (Valiant Central I think?), VEI should at least make it available in one of the Deluxe releases as an extra.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:24:03 pm

Book of Death by Ice-Cream

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:25:12 pm

I want it but I wouldn't be surprised if I get shut out.

Joshua · Post by **Joshua** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:49:09 pm

I am not gonna stress... Yet. I am gonna wait and see what is offered online.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:08:10 pm

Dallow Spicer1 wrote: wouldn't it have been better to have a 1990's type 'coupon in each issue' deal as most readers would have bought 2 x copies, one to read/keep and one for the coupons, ergo increasing sales!

That would be cool. I'm all for an old-school coupon deal, if for no other reason than to see people mortified at the idea of cutting their comics up.

Actually it's be more than awesome to have a ULTRA limited book that's only available when you cut out UPCs of EVERY VALIANT TITLE RELEASED TO DATE!!!

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:16:28 pm

I'm excited by it

I'm confident that I will get a copy

But I don't think its an idea that they should ever do again.

So I voted Ice cream because even though option 1 is technically the truth - I don't want my vote to seem like an endorsement of this marketing idea.

David_Cody · Post by **David_Cody** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:19:29 pm

I realized way early on that there would be NO WAY I could collect every variant that VEI put out. If I can snag a copy at a reasonable price, I'll do so, but if not, them's the breaks.

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:46:42 pm

If I can get one at a reasonable price (i. e. close to cover price) then I will buy it. I *want* to read it because FVL is my favorite writer. But if it's not going to happen I'll probably skip the event altogether and wait to see if there's a hardcover later.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:58:05 pm

I don't know if this idea was mentioned in the other thread (the negativity turned me off but people are allowed their own opinions) but how about if the content went for a premium on the first printing but was made widely available at cover price for a second printing? That way everyone gets what they want.

cray_ws · Post by **cray_ws** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:01:54 pm

I voted...but this is going be a very biased result. We are on a freakin' Valiant forum!

tiredofmyself · Post by **tiredofmyself** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:24:56 pm

jmatt wrote:I don't know if this idea was mentioned in the other thread (the negativity turned me off but people are allowed their own opinions) but how about if the content went for a premium on the first printing but was made widely available at cover price for a second printing? That way everyone gets what they want.

That's very reasonable. Actually have a TPB to collect it afterwards is also reasonable. But now they are touting it as relatively rare (with an example of Harbinger 0 pink), no TPB, no Digital. I think it's likely going to end up in Deluxe collection as another incentive.

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:44:18 pm

jmatt wrote:I don't know if this idea was mentioned in the other thread (the negativity turned me off but people are allowed their own opinions) but how about if the content went for a premium on the first printing but was made widely available at cover price for a second printing? That way everyone gets what they want.

Just make the book available at a reasonable price to readers, not to investor collector types who would not really read the story much because they are afraid to downgrade the condition of their books.

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:46:18 pm

david_albuq wrote:I realized way early on that there would be NO WAY I could collect every variant that VEI put out. If I can snag a copy at a reasonable price, I'll do so, but if not, them's the breaks.

The problem is that this is not a variant. It's an FVL story on the Geomancers made exclusive to collectors.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:57:49 pm

erwinrafael wrote:Just make the book available at a reasonable price to readers, not to investor collector types who would not really read the story much because they are afraid to downgrade the condition of their books.

How much more reasonable does it get than cover price?

Zero Pink is a perfect analogy: A premium book for collector fans and the same content available for those who don't want to pay extra. I don't recall ever hearing anyone complain about the availability of the Pink.

erwinrafael · Post by **erwinrafael** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:00:27 pm

jmatt wrote:
erwinrafael wrote:Just make the book available at a reasonable price to readers, not to investor collector types who would not really read the story much because they are afraid to downgrade the condition of their books.
How much more reasonable does it get than cover price?

Zero Pink is a perfect analogy: A premium book for collector fans and the same content available for those who don't want to pay extra. I don't recall ever hearing anyone complain about the availability of the Pink.

I am agreeing with you. My rant is about the current available version. Sorry if it was not clear.

jmatt · Post by **jmatt** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:04:52 pm

erwinrafael wrote:
jmatt wrote:
erwinrafael wrote:Just make the book available at a reasonable price to readers, not to investor collector types who would not really read the story much because they are afraid to downgrade the condition of their books.
How much more reasonable does it get than cover price?

Zero Pink is a perfect analogy: A premium book for collector fans and the same content available for those who don't want to pay extra. I don't recall ever hearing anyone complain about the availability of the Pink.
I am agreeing with you. My rant is about the current available version. Sorry if it was not clear.

Glad to hear it.

paradise · Post by **paradise** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:41:51 am

cray_ws wrote:I voted...but this is going be a very biased result. We are on a freakin' Valiant forum!

You are saying it like we are making you be here. Yes, we are discussing a valiant title on a valiant forum, it's not biased, it's PURE, you are completely off on this.

paradise · Post by **paradise** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:43:38 am

jmatt wrote: Zero Pink is a perfect analogy: A premium book for collector fans and the same content available for those who don't want to pay extra. I don't recall ever hearing anyone complain about the availability of the Pink.

A Zero Pink is just a variant. But people are constantly complaining about variants, even though they are not made to buy them.

DantePD · Post by **DantePD** » Sun May 03, 2015 9:55:38 am

No. Just....no.

A variant? Yeah, whatever. But, actual STORY CONTENT being made intentionally rare and exclusive? Nope. I'm a digital customer. So, they apparently don't want me reading it.

I love you Valiant. I want to support you. I like giving you my money.

If you don't want to sell me your product? Sorry, I hate it has to be like this, but....it's a pirates life for me.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun May 03, 2015 12:34:38 pm

This book has garnered VEI some attention where they might not have gotten lots of attention.
So I'm for it.

I'm about 99% sure that those who'd like to read it will be able to. Maybe not right away, but it will happen.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Sun May 03, 2015 1:35:45 pm

Actually both options 1 & 4 apply. No problem for me, but will reinforce how badly my LCS fits with modern theories on comic sales. Even if it would be practical to return 24 copies, which it is not from Sweden, they still would not do that. No way they would order copies they know will not sell. And I like them. So option 4 also applies.

/Magnus

leonmallett · Post by **leonmallett** » Sun May 03, 2015 2:46:53 pm

magnusr wrote:Actually both options 1 & 4 apply. No problem for me, but will reinforce how badly my LCS fits with modern theories on comic sales. Even if it would be practical to return 24 copies, which it is not from Sweden, they still would not do that. No way they would order copies they know will not sell. And I like them. So option 4 also applies.

/Magnus

Similar situation in the UK. A poor decision that VEI seem to be making by doing this it seems.

blujay · Post by **blujay** » Sun May 03, 2015 2:53:27 pm

As long as it's on Comixology I'm satisfied

drmirage · Post by **drmirage** » Sun May 03, 2015 3:10:19 pm

I'm not in need to get this right away. So what's all this rush. I'm certain there will be ways to get the story down the line.

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