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toddyboy · Post by **toddyboy** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:30:12 pm

the free next day air shipping makes it a good deal. i'm gonna pull the trigger.

dhudson1 · Post by **dhudson1** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:44:57 pm

iggy101us wrote:Warriors of Plasm #1 signed by Jim Shooter $300 BIN (pssst . . . seller is taking best offer).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123

OMG I have 2 of these, want them for $200 each?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:21:53 pm

dhudson1 wrote:
iggy101us wrote:Warriors of Plasm #1 signed by Jim Shooter $300 BIN (pssst . . . seller is taking best offer).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SS:US:1123
OMG I have 2 of these, want them for $200 each?

You're sitting on a gold mine! That's your retirement fund.

robb77 · Post by **robb77** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:17:04 pm

toddyboy · Post by **toddyboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:10:27 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667762318

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667761752

the description is the most thoughtfully constructed, well crafted load of *SQUEE* i've seen in a long time!

(check out his cool veins)

aaaaahhahaha

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:23:35 pm

toddyboy wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667762318

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667761752

the description is the most thoughtfully constructed, well crafted load of *SQUEE* i've seen in a long time!

(check out his cool veins)
aaaaahhahaha

About the artist: Todd Valiant is a European neo-artist and video game designer.

Hahaha....I hope for his sake that he's better at video game designing.....

toddyboy · Post by **toddyboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:10:10 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
toddyboy wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667762318

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0667761752

the description is the most thoughtfully constructed, well crafted load of *SQUEE* i've seen in a long time!

(check out his cool veins)
aaaaahhahaha

About the artist: Todd Valiant is a European neo-artist and video game designer.
Hahaha....I hope for his sake that he's better at video game designing.....

and for the record, although i do like valiant, and i do like to play video games, i am not neo-european (or whatever) artist mentioned above. i can draw veins almost as good though! at least while doing drunken handstands!

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:34:34 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARCHER-ARMSTRONG-0- ... 2c5de733a0

Ummm. Wtf? I know this book is hard in nice shape, but is it that hard?

Is that hobo's seller id?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:39:20 pm

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:39:33 am

400yrs wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ARCHER-ARMSTRONG-0- ... 2c5de733a0

Ummm. Wtf? I know this book is hard in nice shape, but is it that hard?

Is that hobo's seller id?

It's ZWH, I think Hobo turned his eBay ID over to him a while back.

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:46:38 am

Brother J wrote:
400yrs wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ARCHER-ARMSTRONG-0- ... 2c5de733a0

Ummm. Wtf? I know this book is hard in nice shape, but is it that hard?

Is that hobo's seller id?
It's ZWH, I think Hobo turned his eBay ID over to him a while back.

I'm pretty sure that's right.

Archer & Armstrong #0 Gold CGC 9.8 will be an expensive book
as long as there are only a (relative) few on the census.

Valiant "big books" in CGC 9.8 on the census:
Harbinger 0 Pink - 153 copies
Rai 3 - 118 copies
Magnus 12 - 77 copies
Magnus 0 (no card) - 70 copies
Unity 0 Red - 70 copies
Harbinger 1 - 63 copies
Rai 4 - 49 copies
Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Embossed - 46 copies
Solar 10 (first print) - 37 copies
Magnus 0 (with card) - 26 copies
Archer & Armstrong 0 Gold - 14 copies
Bloodshot 0 Platinum - 6 copies
Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Flat - 4 copies

The most interesting part of this list is that some of the Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Flat four copies in CGC 9.8 may actually be the Embossed version with the wrong label.
Of course, it's also possible that some of the 46 copies of the Embossed could be Flat with the wrong label.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:56:32 am

As I've been saying recently, I think $400 is low. It would take more for me to sell mine because I have no prospects for replacing it.

Being the first Valiant variant, and with new life in the characters, I only see upside barring a steep rise in census numbers.

ZWH had it for sale on the CGC boards for $400, glad he found a buyer on eBay. I strongly suspect he will be prowling the halls of the SDCC this week. If you look at his eBay completed sales history, I think he might be ready to do some serious shopping.

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:05:20 am

ckb wrote:As I've been saying recently, I think $400 is low. It would take more for me to sell mine because I have no prospects for replacing it.

Being the first Valiant variant, and with new life in the characters, I only see upside barring a steep rise in census numbers.

ZWH had it for sale on the CGC boards for $400, glad he found a buyer on eBay. I strongly suspect he will be prowling the halls of the SDCC this week. If you look at his eBay completed sales history, I think he might be ready to do some serious shopping.

Still seems like too much, the CEAR 9.8 has fallen in price and there's far fewer of those floating around...

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:05:33 am

GGSAE wrote:
ckb wrote:As I've been saying recently, I think $400 is low. It would take more for me to sell mine because I have no prospects for replacing it.

Being the first Valiant variant, and with new life in the characters, I only see upside barring a steep rise in census numbers.

ZWH had it for sale on the CGC boards for $400, glad he found a buyer on eBay. I strongly suspect he will be prowling the halls of the SDCC this week. If you look at his eBay completed sales history, I think he might be ready to do some serious shopping.
Still seems like too much, the *Chaos Effect Alpha Red (C.E.A.R.)* 9.8 has fallen in price and there's far fewer of those floating around...

You are comparing pre-unity to post-crappy...

I think you are underestimating how roughly A&A 0 was treated for years. Greg was pulling them out of long boxes for under $5. Like the EW Gold flat, it lost its "special" status for awhile. I don't think the CEARs or Unity Reds ever quite did.

It's a pretty flimsy book and prone to spine creases. I don't think it could ever surpass Haribnger 1 on the census in total copies, barring a horded unopened case or something like that.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:08:25 am

I think the jury is still out on most CGC listings. Completing an entire collection in CGC status would cost the price of the line plus $20 each book.

I just don't know MANY people willing to shell out for... let's say... Bloodshot 8 in 9.8 status.

So... extend that argument.

Buyers then have to pick and choose what books to purchase in a slabbed form.

I don't know of many people who LOVED Chaos Effect.

Do I want one in my collection? Absolutely.

Would I pay an extra $200 for it, or would I choose Archer & Armstrong?

Pretty easy.

Of course, I don't have any CGC comics in my collection. I'm probably a bad example.

But I do remember someone selling a 9.6 CEAR for $50 (or perhaps $75) on this board that went UNSOLD.

But finding a person who was wishing a 9.8 Chaos Effect set would be difficult.

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:51:14 am

kevinbastos wrote: I think the jury is still out on most CGC listings. Completing an entire collection in CGC status would cost the price of the line plus $20 each book.

I just don't know MANY people willing to shell out for... let's say... Bloodshot 8 in 9.8 status.

...

Of course, I don't have any CGC comics in my collection. I'm probably a bad example.

Actually, you're a good example.
Most of the guys who are already into CGC comics have obtained their "top priority" books already.
Some have moved on to the lesser books, such as the Bloodshot #8 you mentioned, while others won't ever go there.

It's the continued demand for the books that will determine the market prices.

Most Valiant collectors have similar lists of "top priority" books, even if they don't own a CGC graded book.
If those Valiant collectors decide to go with CGC graded copies, they'll enter the CGC market for the first time.
Where will their "new money" be focused in that market?

It's obvious to me that 100 copies of Harbinger #0 Pink wouldn't be enough to satisfy Valiant collectors today,
while 10 copies of Bloodshot #8 might be enough for many years.

kevinbastos · Post by **kevinbastos** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:54:23 am

greg wrote: Actually, you're a good example.
Most of the guys who are already into CGC comics have obtained their "top priority" books already.
Some have moved on to the lesser books, such as the Bloodshot #8 you mentioned, while others won't ever go there.

It's the continued demand for the books that will determine the market prices.

I think we're agreed. Can't imagine anyone out there who just is prioritizing a pristine copy of a non-influential book - or if one exists...

greg wrote:Most Valiant collectors have similar lists of "top priority" books, even if they don't own a CGC graded book.
If those Valiant collectors decide to go with CGC graded copies, they'll enter the CGC market for the first time.
Where will their "new money" be focused in that market?

It's obvious to me that 100 copies of Harbinger #0 Pink wouldn't be enough to satisfy Valiant collectors today,
while 10 copies of Bloodshot #8 might be enough for many years.

I think that many would prioritize important Valiant books, that may or may not be rare.

I just don't see Chaos Effect as an IMPORTANT book, even if it is rare.

That's why demand for that kind of book would remain relatively low.

I still don't see myself as a particularly good example, but understand your perspective. As a non-owner of CGC books, I don't think I can really provide effective commentary. Yet.

As a prospective owner, I don't see myself starting. IF I did, I would begin with MY history - which started around Unity - like nearly everyone.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:55:43 pm

chaos effect was a cool idea to close out unity just was not done well

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:30:33 am

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Impressive....

dbngaa · Post by **dbngaa** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:50:19 am

Now you know why I couldn't afford the No Price Turoks. :)

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:49:11 pm

Check out the Shadowman 1 price variants on ebay:

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comicsyte95 · Post by **comicsyte95** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:20:47 pm

Hope they sell..but glad i picked one up a few weeks ago.If i didnt have one ,id pick up Elveens the cheapest (124.99),still a good deal if you have the $$

hulk181man · Post by **hulk181man** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:42:50 pm

In comparison GBU's: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=sha ... m270.l1313" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:09:42 pm

I saw those awhile back too and wondered about elveen's listing...those prices are just so absurd, do we have any market history at all of prices anywhere near that, or even around $50+? It's like one crazy seller started that trend and a few others are playing follow the greedy seller...

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