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ckb
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 Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Harbinger: The Beginning - EDIT - details revealed! |
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| Ryan wrote: | | jedimarley wrote: | My only beef is that we lose JJ's coloring.
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Yeah I love the coloring of the originals, hopefully it's more of a re-mastering than a re-coloring. |
Any idea why they would do a re-coloring? Something production related? |
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Daniel Jackson
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I love the original, but maybe they are trying to give a more current look by recoloring. |
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magnusr
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Harbinger: The Beginning - EDIT - details revealed! |
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| ckb wrote: | | Ryan wrote: | | jedimarley wrote: | My only beef is that we lose JJ's coloring.
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Yeah I love the coloring of the originals, hopefully it's more of a re-mastering than a re-coloring. |
Any idea why they would do a re-coloring? Something production related? |
Just guessing, but there is quite a difference between the color originals and the printed comics in terms of how vivid the colors are. Maybe the production requires better originals than can be extracted from the books. The inks however can be extracted and then recolored.
And I totally agree with Frank.
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mavros
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Second_Death wrote: |
I wonder though, is this old material previously unreleased or is this a story conceived by Jim since his departure in 1992 just for this new release?  If this is a story of recent origin, does this mean Jim is involved with VEI in its relaunch attempt? I'm sure we'll have the answers very soon. |
Wasn't there a little back story of Harada on the coupons in the issues? (I distinctly remember seeing a Harada as a child in a boardroom.) Could Shooter be revisiting that or have dug up his old notes?
Not that it really matters either way.  |
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Virgule
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| greg wrote: | Looks like the "Monday surprise" was posted on the Previews website early this morning.
That's almost a week before the catalogs are in anyone's hands next Wednesday.
As it is now, the details are "leaked" early, but since they only posted on the Diamond
website early this morning, I'd say the fans are STILL the first to know.
We're the only guys who are already informed these first few hours...
(...though I would imagine the news will continue to travel fast!)
 
P.S. I did not know about the Shooter story for the Harada origin!
Bravo! 
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thank the power of frenchness (or at least décalage horaire  )
Maybe we did not learn befoe everybody but at least we try not to be the last...news are being spread across boards like masterworks and such.... |
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leonmallett
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| mavros wrote: | | Second_Death wrote: |
I wonder though, is this old material previously unreleased or is this a story conceived by Jim since his departure in 1992 just for this new release? If this is a story of recent origin, does this mean Jim is involved with VEI in its relaunch attempt? I'm sure we'll have the answers very soon. |
Wasn't there a little back story of Harada on the coupons in the issues? (I distinctly remember seeing a Harada as a child in a boardroom.) Could Shooter be revisiting that or have dug up his old notes?
Not that it really matters either way. |
Who is drawing it?
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mavros
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| It was in the Valiant house style so don't know who... but there was something on the back of those coupons in for #1-6... |
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xodacia81
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| The perfect answer to who is illustrating it, unless it turns out to be just the cards and or script pages, is Lapham. I don't know if he would do it, however. If they have to get someone else, well, Shooter himself draws a little. Maybe he did the art. It won't be great, but it'll be serviceable. |
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myron
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| xodacia81 wrote: | | The perfect answer to who is illustrating it, unless it turns out to be just the cards and or script pages, is Lapham. I don't know if he would do it, however. If they have to get someone else, well, Shooter himself draws a little. Maybe he did the art. It won't be great, but it'll be serviceable. |
why wouldn't lapham do it if he has the time...he did work for Big Jim at defiant too and I don't remember hearing that they parted on poor terms...maybe Dino and Jason have been talking to him... |
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leonmallett
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| myron wrote: | | xodacia81 wrote: | | The perfect answer to who is illustrating it, unless it turns out to be just the cards and or script pages, is Lapham. I don't know if he would do it, however. If they have to get someone else, well, Shooter himself draws a little. Maybe he did the art. It won't be great, but it'll be serviceable. |
why wouldn't lapham do it if he has the time...he did work for Big Jim at defiant too and I don't remember hearing that they parted on poor terms...maybe Dino and Jason have been talking to him... |
It is interesting that the artist wasn't mentioned. |
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myron
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| leonmallett wrote: | | myron wrote: | | xodacia81 wrote: | | The perfect answer to who is illustrating it, unless it turns out to be just the cards and or script pages, is Lapham. I don't know if he would do it, however. If they have to get someone else, well, Shooter himself draws a little. Maybe he did the art. It won't be great, but it'll be serviceable. |
why wouldn't lapham do it if he has the time...he did work for Big Jim at defiant too and I don't remember hearing that they parted on poor terms...maybe Dino and Jason have been talking to him... |
It is interesting that the artist wasn't mentioned. |
well they certainly weren't mentioned alot in pre-unity house style... |
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Ryan
About this 'Bo Blayton', who is he?
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| myron wrote: | | xodacia81 wrote: | | The perfect answer to who is illustrating it, unless it turns out to be just the cards and or script pages, is Lapham. I don't know if he would do it, however. If they have to get someone else, well, Shooter himself draws a little. Maybe he did the art. It won't be great, but it'll be serviceable. |
why wouldn't lapham do it if he has the time...he did work for Big Jim at defiant too and I don't remember hearing that they parted on poor terms...maybe Dino and Jason have been talking to him... |
Lapham is writing books for DC and Marvel, as well as continuing Stray Bullets for El Capitan (although there hasn't been a new one for a while). So it's hard to say how much time he has, but it would be awesome to see him doing Valiant stuff again. Although his style has progressed a lot since the Valiant 'house style' days. |
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Ryan
About this 'Bo Blayton', who is he?
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| mavros wrote: | | It was in the VALIANT house style so don't know who... but there was something on the back of those coupons in for #1-6... |
Doesn anyone have scans of the cards handy? |
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kikitwitme
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| leonmallett wrote: | | It is interesting that the artist wasn't mentioned. |
The good news is its written by Jim Shooter. The bad news is the artist is Rob Liefeld - Extreme Style! 
Wait till you see his version of Zephyr.<sarcasm> |
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sonicdan
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Ryan wrote: |
Doesn anyone have scans of the cards handy? |
I saved these pix that were posted awhile back ago...
DAN |
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Daniel Jackson
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| kikitwitme wrote: | | leonmallett wrote: | | It is interesting that the artist wasn't mentioned. |
The good news is its written by Jim Shooter. The bad news is the artist is Rob Liefeld - Extreme Style!
Wait till you see his version of Zephyr.<sarcasm> |
Ugh..... |
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Dr. Solar
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OAKTOWN REPRESENT!
Thanks for posting those up! |
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greg
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Ryan
About this 'Bo Blayton', who is he?
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| sonicdan wrote: |
I saved these pix that were posted awhile back ago...
DAN |
Thanks for posting those Dan, I knew you would come through
It's hard to tell from the scans, but if I had to guess an artist I would say Paul Creddick ( ) with Layton applying the inks. The boy genius taking over a company is an interesting story for Shooter to write since he was something of a boy genius himself and was top dog at Marvel at such a young age. |
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myron
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ryan wrote: | | sonicdan wrote: |
I saved these pix that were posted awhile back ago...
DAN |
Thanks for posting those Dan, I knew you would come through
It's hard to tell from the scans, but if I had to guess an artist I would say Paul Creddick ( ) with Layton applying the inks. The boy genius taking over a company is an interesting story for Shooter to write since he was something of a boy genius himself and was top dog at Marvel at such a young age. |
niiiiicccee... ...wasn't he drawing for DC at 13? |
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Ryan
About this 'Bo Blayton', who is he?
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| myron wrote: | | niiiiicccee... ...wasn't he drawing for DC at 13? |
He was writing and doing page/cover layouts for Legion at about that age from what I understand. |
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magnusr
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Ryan wrote: | | he was something of a boy genius himself |
http://comics.org/details.lasso?id=20149
This and the following issues were his first published books. Shooter submitted scripts and detailed layouts to DC and they were so impressed they published them.
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oldjello
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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x-omatic
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slym2none
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I am all for new HC's of the old material. That would ROCK!
-slym |
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