Hillary Clinton in Faith #5

[X-O HoboJoe]

Best way to settle this: Produce a Trump cover and a Clinton cover, then use the higher selling one to declare victory in the Valiant Universe.

Also, have a contest to see who can destroy the cover of the one they hate more in the most incredible way possible. Give a gold copy of that cover to the winner.

[jshelton2001]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

[jmatt]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

That is true. I'm sure it will sell a lot of issues. I mean, we dragged Stu (HoboJoe) up to the sections actually about comics. That's a rarity.

[OhioValiantNut]

Its perfectly fine for companies to mirror contemporary political themes ... the line stresses itself when said company expects their readers to agree with the themes being presented.

I'm a huge political junkie ... and while I will buy the book (as part of my purchase of all Valiant titles), the odds are 1:500 that I ever read it. I have yet to meaningfully read any of the Faith books I own. I don't think much of the current incarnation of the character. Valiant has stronger female leads, imho.

So while it will generate media attention for Valiant (negative and positive) there comes the point where one must ask (considering that it takes 10 zillion variant covers for any Faith book to even sell enough to pay for itself), what difference does it make?

[Psiot X]

How can one tell the difference between whinning and complaint on a msg board?

If you disagree with what's said, it's whining. If you agree, it's logic.


Seriously, the conservative butt-hurt on here is at an all-time high. Gonna whinge about what the one you don't like's done but turn a blind eye to the one you do like's having done the same damn thing? You sound like a bunch of liberals.

I'll have you know that conservatively whining is only a pout. You can leave the political party pandering out of my comics. It's like food with a liberal amount of salt, that is to say, prone to raise everyone's blood pressure. And while some of us may have remained in a chair too long, just enough for an aching cheek, there seems to be some one over there under a bridge baiting a fishing hook with a food stamp...

[Sven the Returned]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

That also happened to Bayhghazi and Ghostbusters with not so stellar results.

[Phoenix8008]

About the only silver lining to this (for me) is that, per an interview on Comic Book Resources, the story involving Clinton won't be the Main story in the issue. Instead it'll be a smaller backup story like they do in the #25 issues:

The issue will feature three stories, with regular "Faith" creative team Jody Houser and Meghan Hetrick writing the lead. The backup stories will include a prelude to "Harbinger Renegades" by Rafer Roberts, and legendary writer Louise Simonson will team up with Pere Perez for the Hillary Clinton/Faith tale.

So, at least it's not the whole issue going down this road. Just the cover and the backup story. I can read the main story, and the prelude to Harbinger Renegades, and then stop there if I choose.

[X-O HoboJoe]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

That is true. I'm sure it will sell a lot of issues. I mean, we dragged Stu (HoboJoe) up to the sections actually about comics. That's a rarity.

Ohhhh you wascally wabbit!

[jmatt]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

That is true. I'm sure it will sell a lot of issues. I mean, we dragged Stu (HoboJoe) up to the sections actually about comics. That's a rarity.

Ohhhh you wascally wabbit!

Duck season.

I prefer that to the electoral season.

[jshelton2001]

Its pretty smart. I'm no Hillary fan, but if I were in Dino's shoes, it makes sense. 1. There's a new comic targeting female readers. 2. A lot of people who don't read Valiant will pick the book up out of curiousity, & it may hook subscribers. 3. People will talk about it.

Personally, I don't like treading into political waters, but if it makes them $$, im for it. I hope it's not a reoccuring theme. I left Marvel because of it. When you have reoccurring political or religious themes, you will inevitably alienate readers. As a money making operation, you should avoid that.

[JCP]

Meh, put somebody fun in the book. Slap Jemaine Clement and Brett McKenzie in there and I'm in for a few extra copies at least.

[grendeljd]

I feel sorry for you Americans. On one hand you got a peice of work = trump. And on the other hand Hillary. Both are garbage choices for president. And your only good choice sanders go the boot. California has the total Canadian population your telling me with all these humans and potential presidents hillary and trump are the best you got. That in its self is sad. Hillary is a set up because everyone likes firsts and the first woman in will be the first choice most will make. Because voting for trump is idiocy. what's the point in voting at all sounds like the presidency organisation is making the choice for you.
Good luck ya all!

I feel sorry for us Americans as well.

I've legitimately been researching moving to Canada.

Wow, dude - that's seriously desperate!!

Don't think I didn't see what you did there... Nobody is crazy enough to move to Canada. It's full of... Canadians...

Resistance is futile - our national niceness will swallow you whole!

[grendeljd]

Best way to settle this: Produce a Trump cover and a Clinton cover, then use the higher selling one to declare victory in the Valiant Universe.

Also, have a contest to see who can destroy the cover of the one they hate more in the most incredible way possible. Give a gold copy of that cover to the whiner.

Fixed that for you

[Sunlight on Snow]

I would prefer HRC smiling from a variant cover only but I don't mind her being featured in one of the (backup) stories.

[jmatt]

I'd like a QR variant of her face and when you play the sound it's her talking in that fake southern drawl she puts on down south. Or maybe saying "We came, we saw, he died!" followed by her usual cackle.

That, I'd buy.

[X-O HoboJoe]

Liberal, Conservative, or Libertarian, it seems the mission was accomplished. People are talking about it.

That is true. I'm sure it will sell a lot of issues. I mean, we dragged Stu (HoboJoe) up to the sections actually about comics. That's a rarity.

Ohhhh you wascally wabbit!

Duck season.

I prefer that to the electoral season.

As would any sane person . . .

[X-O HoboJoe]

Best way to settle this: Produce a Trump cover and a Clinton cover, then use the higher selling one to declare victory in the Valiant Universe.

Also, have a contest to see who can destroy the cover of the one they hate more in the most incredible way possible. Give a gold copy of that cover to the whiner.

Fixed that for you

Think about how this would go for true completest who want to participate: Have to buy 2 copies of the cover you intend to destroy (as to have one left over) and at least 3 copies of the cover of the one you want to win to cancel out your two votes for the other candidate and add one for the candidate you support.

[Watchtower]

I am not proud of the fact that Clinton is the first major female presidential candidate. I am angered less by her and more by the blatant manipulation of the DNC to essentially gift her the nomination, and the fact that many of her newfound supporters (even Sanders) back her on the basis of "stopping Trump" goes to show just how much of a "lesser of two evils" she really is.

That all said, this development doesn't surprise me at all. Clinton, whether she deserves it or not, has become a champion of the advancement of women, and it makes sense that Faith, who has herself become one of the biggest front-lining superheroines in the business, would have something to say, especially since she would care so much more about the current election than, say, Wonder Woman.

I'm curious as to what exactly they'll do, when they say that it's more a reflection of the current political climate than a simple endorsement. I might be biased, but I'd have nothing but respect if they had the balls to make her a Sanders supporter.

[Shadowman99]

...many of her newfound supporters (even Sanders) back her on the basis of "stopping Trump" goes to show just how much of a "lesser of two evils" she really is.

This is pretty much how British politics works every time an election comes around.

All the candidates are *SQUEE* useless, but typically two candidates are significantly most likely to win the election so you vote for whichever one is most likely to win over the party that you hate the most, and hope that they do the least amount of damage when they take office.

The British political system is obviously fundamentally flawed but unfortunately the general populace here are either too stuck in their ways to change, too afraid to open their eyes to alternative possibilities, or too bloody stupid to know what's going on. It's *SQUEE* pitiful.

Anyway, when it comes to this latest US election it's very much the same situation: I'm sure Hillary will be useless in office but Trump is a *SQUEE* maniac so 'go Hilary'

[X-O HoboJoe]

So the plot of the story is Bill gets really excited when he mistakes Faith for a balloon?

[JCP]

So the plot of the story is Bill gets really excited when he mistakes Faith for a balloon?

[jmatt]

So the plot of the story is Bill gets really excited when he mistakes Faith for a balloon?

I'm just glad Faith's not wearing a blue dress on the cover. Knowmsayin?

[OhioValiantNut]

I'm just glad Faith's not wearing a blue dress on the cover. Knowmsayin?

[kjjohanson]

Guys, it's not a big deal. I'm old enough to remember the contents of lots of comics from the Reagan years (as a matter of fact, I worked in a comic book store during the 2nd Reagan term and H. W. Bush's term), and he appeared in several books by several publishers, as I recall. Sometimes he was portrayed in a positive light, and other times in a negative light. Take a look at how he's satirized in Miller's first Dark Knight series for crying out loud! And if that ain't enough, re-read The Watchmen: Moore's is no "Shining City on a Hill" RR. Also, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton didn't get off Scott free during the '90s (Grant Morrison was not a Clinton fan, for sure), and somewhere upstairs I've got a copy of a gory indie comic from 1990 or so that shows GHWB getting speared through the chest on the cover.

A few of my fellow geezers may remember this golden oldie from 1986...

No need to go that far back. Valiant has an artist with experience illustrating the Oval Office:

[kjjohanson]

I'm surprised no one has brought up Clinton's prior appearance in Valiant yet: