Harbinger #2 Discussion Thread (of course with spoilers)

[Elveen]

I did not get to read this book until the Jeo/Poker game at SDCC Fri. night.

I got to read it on the iPad of Pleasure (AKA: Dino's iPad). I also got to read it next to Dino, so I kinda got the Director's Cut. This book was GREAT! I will agree with what has already been said about the art. There was only one panel where I thought the faces were off. Compared to #1, the art was outstanding!

The first 5 pages, the Darpon story, was maybe my favorite section of any book so far. I LOVED, LOVED the coloring and tone of them. A to the +. Dysart created a truly creepy situation and really set up Darpon was a MAJOR power in the universe to come. Think about it..... Darpon was almost able to overwhelm Toyo, the most powerful man in the world, and Darpon was only a baby! Loved it!

The action was great, and the character development/conflict was very emotional. I liked the "encouragement" that Toyo was giving to Pete, kinda like Obi Wan to Luke on the Falcon, "..... just let go....." Creepy.


The Rising Spirit connection for me is huge. The idea that Rising Spirit has govt connections is BIG for the future of the universe. It really sets up Iwatsu as a major player in books to come.

for me, Harby #2 is a 5/5.

[BugsySig]

QUESTION:

Assuming Pete DID force Kris into a situation implied by the artwork and Kris's reaction in Harbinger #2...

IS KRIS PREGNANT?

Magus: Android Boxer?

[rpellech83]

Wait a minute. Saved by the Bell wasn't like real life? There goes my childhood.

[depluto]

It's great to read these two books and then re-read the original Harbinger ... I thought those were great books for their time but the new stuff is more intense and less cartoony.

Not sure what Pete sees in Kris either time, though. She was a sneaky creep the first time around, but who knows how she will be in the new books? And Joe has made it through two issues, a new record for him.

[BugsySig]

It's great to read these two books and then re-read the original Harbinger ... I thought those were great books for their time but the new stuff is more intense and less cartoony.

Totally agree. I love the original run, but there was some major cheese involved...and some of the dialogue

Not sure what Pete sees in Kris either time, though. She was a sneaky creep the first time around, but who knows how she will be in the new books? And Joe has made it through two issues, a new record for him.

[The Dirt Gang]

4) The bird? Hmmm...

That bird stood out to me as well. I wonder if there is more to it.

1) what bird?

2) Harbinger logo bird?

I thought jmatt was talking about the blue bird in the sequence where Pete is in Toyo's mind before being pulled back to reality. The bird stuck out to me but I don't know if really has any significance.

I saw it on the second look through. Perhaps the bird(s) from the garden inspired the logo.

I was rereading Harbinger and noticed the blue bird appears in both issue 1 and 2. I think there is more to it than just background. It looks to me like it's watching Peter and Harada. I'm thinking it could be Darpan.

[Blood of Heroes]

And I don't know if it's me trying to read into things, but the way they said goodbye didn't sound like two guys that were "just friends". I thought they were going to kiss there for a second.

Only time will tell, but I still don't think they're gay.

Twice Joe referred to Kris as a "hot chick". Once was actually a "bangin' hot chick".

If he was gay, you'd think that he would have mentioned that her shoes were faaaaaaaaaabulous!!!

[grendeljd]

4) The bird? Hmmm...

That bird stood out to me as well. I wonder if there is more to it.

1) what bird?

2) Harbinger logo bird?

I thought jmatt was talking about the blue bird in the sequence where Pete is in Toyo's mind before being pulled back to reality. The bird stuck out to me but I don't know if really has any significance.

I saw it on the second look through. Perhaps the bird(s) from the garden inspired the logo.

I was rereading Harbinger and noticed the blue bird appears in both issue 1 and 2. I think there is more to it than just background. It looks to me like it's watching Peter and Harada. I'm thinking it could be Darpan.

I'm liking this idea - although, if it is... Is Darpan actually present? If he was, it's curious that his powers are not affecting Pete. Which suggests either Harada is dampening his power, or is projecting what is happening with Pete into Darpans mind (and therefore the bird is merely symbolically present), or Darpan has learned to control his abilities at this point.

It could be that this particular breed just has some symbolic relevance to Harada & therefore would be an inspiration for the logo...

[jmatt]

QUESTION:

Assuming Pete DID force Kris into a situation implied by the artwork and Kris's reaction in Harbinger #2...

IS KRIS PREGNANT?

She was sure acting like she was in the throes of PMS...

[manga4life]

Nah, I don't think Kris is pregnant, if she was than it would be waaaaaay to early to tell and her mood swings wouldn't have come that fast. If for some odd reason she is than we wouldn't know until probably another 4-5 issues in once this current storyline is finished with and there is room to add a new element, but I'd bet all my chips and say she's not pregnant at all.

[Chiclo]

Nah, I don't think Kris is pregnant, if she was than it would be waaaaaay to early to tell and her mood swings wouldn't have come that fast. If for some odd reason she is than we wouldn't know until probably another 4-5 issues in once this current storyline is finished with and there is room to add a new element, but I'd bet all my chips and say she's not pregnant at all.

I would not call her reaction to being mind-taken as a mood swing. It is a righteous fury over being violated in an unprecedented manner.

MIND-TAKING!

[tarheelmarine]

I liked how they captured teens wearing the wear circles that enlarge their lobes. Nice attention to detail with current trends.

[Tim]

I like that there was a dialog balloon on the cover.

God, I miss that in modern comics....

[jmatt]

I like that there was a dialog balloon on the cover.

God, I miss that in modern comics....

Same here. Sure, it's nice to have movie poster style covers, but dialogue balloons can draw readers in too. They engender curiosity in a potential buyer, and in this market make the book stand out among the other covers on the LCS rack.

There's those darn words getting in the way of the pretty pictures again...

[caniac]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

[jmatt]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

Because they're separated by 1600 years?

[caniac]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

Because they're separated by 1600 years?

I know that
The Vine may have a long life span...

[Avagis]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

They're 12,500 kms apart from each other, BUT over a span of 1600 years that works out to 8km/year. So it's possible Darpan's a descendent, even if there's no reason yet to really suspect it.

[BugsySig]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

They're 12,500 kms apart from each other, BUT over a span of 1600 years that works out to 8km/year. So it's possible Darpan's a descendent, even if there's no reason yet to really suspect it.

I am still waiting for the "Darpan and Vine Baby's Amazing Adventures" book we were promised at the SDCC panel.

[jmatt]

Finally got to read this...best book put out so far!

Someone please tell me why I should get the notion out of my head that Avagis is some how related to Darpan...

They're 12,500 kms apart from each other, BUT over a span of 1600 years that works out to 8km/year. So it's possible Darpan's a descendent, even if there's no reason yet to really suspect it.

I am still waiting for the "Darpan and Vine Baby's Amazing Adventures" book we were promised at the SDCC panel.

I'd buy that for a dollar.

[Phoenix8008]

Knowing Tull is from Project Rising Spirit, and seeing what PRS is able to do to Bloodshot mentally (as talked about in the last couple panels of Bloodshot #1), I think Joe Irons was totally correct in his diagnosis of Mr. Tull in Harby #1. I think PRS keeps putting a new memory cap on Mr. Tull the same was as they do on Bloodshot.

[Blood of Heroes]

Knowing Tull is from Project Rising Spirit, and seeing what PRS is able to do to Bloodshot mentally (as talked about in the last couple panels of Bloodshot #1), I think Joe Irons was totally correct in his diagnosis of Mr. Tull in Harby #1. I think PRS keeps putting a new memory cap on Mr. Tull the same was as they do on Bloodshot.

[agent_graves]

This issue was incredible. Better than the first, and I loved the first.

Agreed, although I didn't love the first issue....