Bound books

[Phoenix8008]

Definitely. Library Binding has a basic size limit of 3" and my A&A book is barely over 2". Gutter loss was minimal.

Is that with cutting out back covers and all non-essential pages, or leaving everything in there? Just checking, because I'd rather leave everything in there but I know with some of the bigger books it can cause more gutter loss as the book gets thicker.

A question for everybody else as well. Does anyone have images of the symbols for each VH1 title. I mean the symbols they had for each title in the Birthquake issues. I was thinking about putting these symbols on the spine of my bound books. So that it would have the Valiant cross on top, then the title of the book in the center, then the team logo on the bottom. At least for those titles that have those symbols. If nobody has them, then I'll just have to cut and paste them from the cover images of the books that had them.

[Steve Topper]

Definitely. Library Binding has a basic size limit of 3" and my A&A book is barely over 2". Gutter loss was minimal.

Is that with cutting out back covers and all non-essential pages, or leaving everything in there? Just checking, because I'd rather leave everything in there but I know with some of the bigger books it can cause more gutter loss as the book gets thicker.

For my Valiants, I left everything intact. The only real editing I did consisted of splitting the various flip books and putting them in the proper orientation. I left all of the interior ads and back covers in place (for these books). I have removed them for other non-Valiant books, however.

[dholden007]

It was the A & A book for sure. I'm not saying it's not in any others though.

It's Ladakh btw, since you asked.

How much are we talking to bind say Archer and Armstrong?

Mine cost $19 minus shipping. I bound the complete A&A with the Eternal Warrior crossovers and flipbooks into a single book.

Steve, do you include the head and tail bands on all your books? Does it do anything to reinforce the spine/binding or is it only for aesthetics. I was thinking to put them on my binds but the cost would be insane (especially since I'll use the Valiant logo die on all the Valiant binds) it would certainly add up. Do you have any scans of books without them, would like to see the difference with and without them.

[dave]

$19 that's all?

[Phoenix8008]

$19 that's all?

Depending on the options chosen, $19 is definately doable. With just binding and head/tail bands would be $19. Or with a ribbon marker instead of the head/tail bands would be the same.

See here: http://www.librarybinding.com/fullpricelist.pdf

[tmcneil82]

Just wanted to let you all know that i decided to give my negative view of binding books another fair shot. So i sat down with my stack of Archer and Armstrong 0-26. I unbagged them all, got the stack to read all ready on my coffee table. Next to this stack i put a $20 bill. Then i asked myself, "Why the hell would i pay someone $20 so i could pick this up all at once?"

So yeah, i still can't get behind the binding thing.

[MoonChild]

Just wanted to let you all know that i decided to give my negative view of binding books another fair shot. So i sat down with my stack of Archer and Armstrong 0-26. I unbagged them all, got the stack to read all ready on my coffee table. Next to this stack i put a $20 bill. Then i asked myself, "Why the hell would i pay someone $20 so i could pick this up all at once?"

So yeah, i still can't get behind the binding thing.

You can always pick them all up at once, but I don't imagine it would be nearly as easy as picking it up in a single book =0 Personal prefrence is a good thing, for me one large book I can bring with me anywhere just sounds like I'd actually read it more and just overall enjoy the experience, same thing with my VEI hardcovers. Especially cause im havin so much fun adding all kinds of bonus material to each of them, not to mention the dust jackets. The creative side is what I thrive on. Plus adding all the apperances into them in order, just seems like it'll be so much more an enjoyable experience and I can share it with people close to me ta boot, I think alot more non-comic people would be interested in reading them at all in a hardcover format as opposed to singles in bags.

[Steve Topper]

Steve, do you include the head and tail bands on all your books? Does it do anything to reinforce the spine/binding or is it only for aesthetics. I was thinking to put them on my binds but the cost would be insane (especially since I'll use the Valiant logo die on all the Valiant binds) it would certainly add up. Do you have any scans of books without them, would like to see the difference with and without them.

I do include the head and tail bands on my books, every one of them. I would like to think they reinforce the spine/binding, but they don't. It's purely aesthetic and serves no purpose other than, to me, make the books look complete. Nothing else.

I don't have any pictures of books without the head/tail bands, so I can't show you what they look like without them. But I've always felt my books were worth the extra $4. But that's personal preference only, not an indictment of anybody who thinks otherwise.

[Steve Topper]

Just wanted to let you all know that i decided to give my negative view of binding books another fair shot. So i sat down with my stack of Archer and Armstrong 0-26. I unbagged them all, got the stack to read all ready on my coffee table. Next to this stack i put a $20 bill. Then i asked myself, "Why the hell would i pay someone $20 so i could pick this up all at once?"

So yeah, i still can't get behind the binding thing.

Or, I look at a stack of bagged and boarded comics, slowly pull the comics out of their bags, read the comics, and then carefully put them back into their bags (realizing that they are probably no longer NM because of the oils from my fingers or the spine stress I just induced reading them) and thinking "For $20, I don't have to put up with this obsessive-compulsive *SQUEE* and I can just put the books on a shelf for easy reading pleasure."

It all depends on your viewpoint.

[tmcneil82]

Just wanted to let you all know that i decided to give my negative view of binding books another fair shot. So i sat down with my stack of Archer and Armstrong 0-26. I unbagged them all, got the stack to read all ready on my coffee table. Next to this stack i put a $20 bill. Then i asked myself, "Why the hell would i pay someone $20 so i could pick this up all at once?"

So yeah, i still can't get behind the binding thing.

Or, I look at a stack of bagged and boarded comics, slowly pull the comics out of their bags, read the comics, and then carefully put them back into their bags (realizing that they are probably no longer NM because of the oils from my fingers or the spine stress I just induced reading them) and thinking "For $20, I don't have to put up with this obsessive-compulsive *SQUEE* and I can just put the books on a shelf for easy reading pleasure."

It all depends on your viewpoint.

lol

[MoonChild]

Truly spoken!

Just wanted to let you all know that i decided to give my negative view of binding books another fair shot. So i sat down with my stack of Archer and Armstrong 0-26. I unbagged them all, got the stack to read all ready on my coffee table. Next to this stack i put a $20 bill. Then i asked myself, "Why the hell would i pay someone $20 so i could pick this up all at once?"

So yeah, i still can't get behind the binding thing.

Or, I look at a stack of bagged and boarded comics, slowly pull the comics out of their bags, read the comics, and then carefully put them back into their bags (realizing that they are probably no longer NM because of the oils from my fingers or the spine stress I just induced reading them) and thinking "For $20, I don't have to put up with this obsessive-compulsive *SQUEE* and I can just put the books on a shelf for easy reading pleasure."

It all depends on your viewpoint.

[tmcneil82]

I am just poking fun guys. I understand the bound book thing, really.

[slym2none]

I am just poking fun guys. I understand the bound book thing, really.

I did the same as you, and vowed never to come in here again, and I haven't.

D'OH! I just broke that, didn't I???





-slym (won't be back, promises)

[ian_house]

I am just poking fun guys. I understand the bound book thing, really.

I did the same as you, and vowed never to come in here again, and I haven't.

D'OH! I just broke that, didn't I???





-slym (won't be back, promises)

Slym... oh Slym... come out come out wherever you are!

[Donovan]

Especially cause im havin so much fun adding all kinds of bonus material to each of them, not to mention the dust jackets. The creative side is what I thrive on.

Moon Child, can you give me an example of some of the extra bonus material you're putting in? Is it just extra appearances of the character(s) in other titles? Or do you do sketches, original art, interviews, etc?

I'd love to be able to track down interviews and scans of original art once I get my first book decided on!

[Phantom..]

Head and tail bands are cosmetic only, and are stuck on.
You can stick them on after binding aswell.

With handbound books, they still stick them on ~ unless you request stitched.

Stitched head and tail bands don't come cheap. And for hand stitched they would only do the top. As it would only be benifitial at the top.

The reason for head bands is for when you pull the book of the shelf, to prevent damage and separation of pages near the top. Which would only happen after multiple use (as in more then a private owner)

It was the A & A book for sure. I'm not saying it's not in any others though.

It's Ladakh btw, since you asked.

How much are we talking to bind say Archer and Armstrong?

Mine cost $19 minus shipping. I bound the complete A&A with the Eternal Warrior crossovers and flipbooks into a single book.

Steve, do you include the head and tail bands on all your books? Does it do anything to reinforce the spine/binding or is it only for aesthetics. I was thinking to put them on my binds but the cost would be insane (especially since I'll use the Valiant logo die on all the Valiant binds) it would certainly add up. Do you have any scans of books without them, would like to see the difference with and without them.

[MoonChild]

Especially cause im havin so much fun adding all kinds of bonus material to each of them, not to mention the dust jackets. The creative side is what I thrive on.

Moon Child, can you give me an example of some of the extra bonus material you're putting in? Is it just extra appearances of the character(s) in other titles? Or do you do sketches, original art, interviews, etc?

I'd love to be able to track down interviews and scans of original art once I get my first book decided on!

Both! You haven't seen my posts? I using everything under the sun remastered and formatted in photoshop.

[Donovan]

Both! You haven't seen my posts? I using everything under the sun remastered and formatted in photoshop.

I haven't! What thread are they in? Don't leave me hangin', man!

Are there photos?

[MoonChild]

Both! You haven't seen my posts? I using everything under the sun remastered and formatted in photoshop.

I haven't! What thread are they in? Don't leave me hangin', man!

Are there photos?

Just search my name bro

[dave]

Those look great. I think I need to see it in person though, to fully appreciate it. Do you need my address?

No really, what all is in there? A n A 0-25 and...

Where do you get the images exactly to do the front cover and the back like that. I mean, I know that that's ana #0, but...

Do you just tell them, or do you have to explain it all and send the stuff?

[Steve Topper]

I bound A&A 0-26 and Eternal Warrior 25 and 26 in that book. Eternal Warrior/A&A 8 was a flip book, same with EW/A&A 26. So those I cut into two pieces - the EW part and the A&A part.

For the images, I've used a combination of things. Mostly I scan a cover at 300dpi into Photoshop and then manipulate the image (i.e., remove the background) and crop it until it serves my purpose.

The dust jackets I do make myself. The binder has nothing to do with that, although they have started a laminated cover bind that I have not tried yet. For them laminated covers, you create the image you want and send it on a CD and they print and mount the cover image. I have one book in preparation that I'm to try that option.

[Steve Topper]

Those look great. I think I need to see it in person though, to fully appreciate it.

I don't know that quite a long journey from Mesa County (AZ?) to Ohio. Will you be coming by plane, train or automobile?

[dholden007]

For those who have bound X-O (book I) is it better to use single issues
1-4 or the TPB... is there any significant difference, with gutter loss.
I have both.

[dholden007]

Anyone?

[IanAlexavier]

Anyone?

LOL.. well... I havent used a TPB just yet.. but I was thinking about it. I think I might have a problem with the covers not being actual covers.. they just feel different. I think there are times that the 'covers' are facing the 'wrong way'. The other thing is that Ive been able to pick up most of those issues for cheap anyway. If you wait around long enough, as around, or search at shops, you should be able to find the issues without any problems.

This is how Ive managed to do it.. even to find some of the most difficult book too: golds, variants, ect..

Binding is as individual as people are.

As far as gutter loss, Im thinking that there MIGHT be a little more.. but its not a killer. SOMETIMES you will notice this, for example, when there is a word balloon near the gutter. Otherwise its not something that Ive noticed.