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Re: Alien Books: "I told you"

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Is there even any Sliders discussion on this thread?

I vote we lock it for off-topic.

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lorddunlow wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:49 pm Is there even any Sliders discussion on this thread?

I vote we lock it for off-topic.

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lorddunlow wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:49 pm Is there even any Sliders discussion on this thread?

I vote we lock it for off-topic.

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Re: Alien Books: "I told you"

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Chiclo wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:44 pm This thread has got me to wondering - what did syzhang tell us and how accurate was it?

Looking back at his posts, this whole affair seems to have begun in early August with this thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119537#p1119537
Wherein syzhang says that he heard a rumour that Alien books planned to release prestige format comics with a price point of around $12.99 and higher page counts. This thread was not contentious and his claims here seem to be supported.

Where things get sour are in this next thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119610#p1119610
Less than a week later, syzhang tries for a sequel, sharing the scuttlebutt he heard at his lcs that Valiant doesn't like what Alien is doing and this is where current and recently transferred Valiant employees tell him he is wrong. These claims have not been corroborated by other sources and are denied by all involved with both companies.

The next rumour thread is here:
viewtopic.php?p=1119715#p1119715
Less than a week after the second thread, syzhang claims Alien is talking to former Valiant creators. He says that the LCS guy told him about how Dinesh was making introductions. Names listed include Frank Miller, Dysart and Venditti. Denied by Alien staff, danielle said that people met people at a Bad Idea party at SDCC. Thread goes on, much talk about the Kickstarter and who was to blame, not much added to rumor support or denial.

What did the five fingers say to the face?:
viewtopic.php?t=54355
Mad about Kickstarter, Alien soliciting Scorched Earth before the KS ships. Has this shipped yet? Did the Kickstarter backers get their HCs before Alien shipped these SCs?

One more rumor:
viewtopic.php?p=1120185#p1120185
syzhang claims that Alien will be satisfied with print runs of 1500. This one can be tested over the next 6 to 18 months, I'd guess.

There have been other controversies during that time, for example asking in one thread if we think Alien will hire Shooter and then talking about how terrible Shooter is. Those are not included here.

On the balance, I think we can say his first thread panned out to be solid. As far as I am aware, his prognostications about the Kickstarter were not. There is no evidence to support the second rumour and it was specifically and unanimously denied by anyone with first-hand knowledge of the situation but to be fair, I don't think we can dismiss this as explicitly debunked but I am still very sceptical of this claim. The third claim seems to be founded in an actual event but presented misleadingly - truly, rumours and conjecture.

My final tally - 1 right, 1 probably wrong, 1 got the story wrong, 1 wrong and 1 wait and see.

Not the kind of record I'd be crowing about, saying see I told you so.
Do recent rumors about VH 1 prove he was -- right?
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Re: Alien Books: "I told you"

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:59 am
Chiclo wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:44 pm This thread has got me to wondering - what did syzhang tell us and how accurate was it?

Looking back at his posts, this whole affair seems to have begun in early August with this thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119537#p1119537
Wherein syzhang says that he heard a rumour that Alien books planned to release prestige format comics with a price point of around $12.99 and higher page counts. This thread was not contentious and his claims here seem to be supported.

Where things get sour are in this next thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119610#p1119610
Less than a week later, syzhang tries for a sequel, sharing the scuttlebutt he heard at his lcs that Valiant doesn't like what Alien is doing and this is where current and recently transferred Valiant employees tell him he is wrong. These claims have not been corroborated by other sources and are denied by all involved with both companies.

The next rumour thread is here:
viewtopic.php?p=1119715#p1119715
Less than a week after the second thread, syzhang claims Alien is talking to former Valiant creators. He says that the LCS guy told him about how Dinesh was making introductions. Names listed include Frank Miller, Dysart and Venditti. Denied by Alien staff, danielle said that people met people at a Bad Idea party at SDCC. Thread goes on, much talk about the Kickstarter and who was to blame, not much added to rumor support or denial.

What did the five fingers say to the face?:
viewtopic.php?t=54355
Mad about Kickstarter, Alien soliciting Scorched Earth before the KS ships. Has this shipped yet? Did the Kickstarter backers get their HCs before Alien shipped these SCs?

One more rumor:
viewtopic.php?p=1120185#p1120185
syzhang claims that Alien will be satisfied with print runs of 1500. This one can be tested over the next 6 to 18 months, I'd guess.

There have been other controversies during that time, for example asking in one thread if we think Alien will hire Shooter and then talking about how terrible Shooter is. Those are not included here.

On the balance, I think we can say his first thread panned out to be solid. As far as I am aware, his prognostications about the Kickstarter were not. There is no evidence to support the second rumour and it was specifically and unanimously denied by anyone with first-hand knowledge of the situation but to be fair, I don't think we can dismiss this as explicitly debunked but I am still very sceptical of this claim. The third claim seems to be founded in an actual event but presented misleadingly - truly, rumours and conjecture.

My final tally - 1 right, 1 probably wrong, 1 got the story wrong, 1 wrong and 1 wait and see.

Not the kind of record I'd be crowing about, saying see I told you so.
Do recent rumors about VH 1 prove he was -- right?
He was right about Alien bringing back Fred Van Lente, the Eddie Van Halen of the VEI Beatles.

Beyond that, I am not aware of these other claims being vindicated. If I were made of time, I’d look up his claims that he has made since.

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Re: Alien Books: "I told you"

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Chiclo wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:26 pm
ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:59 am
Chiclo wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:44 pm This thread has got me to wondering - what did syzhang tell us and how accurate was it?

Looking back at his posts, this whole affair seems to have begun in early August with this thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119537#p1119537
Wherein syzhang says that he heard a rumour that Alien books planned to release prestige format comics with a price point of around $12.99 and higher page counts. This thread was not contentious and his claims here seem to be supported.

Where things get sour are in this next thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1119610#p1119610
Less than a week later, syzhang tries for a sequel, sharing the scuttlebutt he heard at his lcs that Valiant doesn't like what Alien is doing and this is where current and recently transferred Valiant employees tell him he is wrong. These claims have not been corroborated by other sources and are denied by all involved with both companies.

The next rumour thread is here:
viewtopic.php?p=1119715#p1119715
Less than a week after the second thread, syzhang claims Alien is talking to former Valiant creators. He says that the LCS guy told him about how Dinesh was making introductions. Names listed include Frank Miller, Dysart and Venditti. Denied by Alien staff, danielle said that people met people at a Bad Idea party at SDCC. Thread goes on, much talk about the Kickstarter and who was to blame, not much added to rumor support or denial.

What did the five fingers say to the face?:
viewtopic.php?t=54355
Mad about Kickstarter, Alien soliciting Scorched Earth before the KS ships. Has this shipped yet? Did the Kickstarter backers get their HCs before Alien shipped these SCs?

One more rumor:
viewtopic.php?p=1120185#p1120185
syzhang claims that Alien will be satisfied with print runs of 1500. This one can be tested over the next 6 to 18 months, I'd guess.

There have been other controversies during that time, for example asking in one thread if we think Alien will hire Shooter and then talking about how terrible Shooter is. Those are not included here.

On the balance, I think we can say his first thread panned out to be solid. As far as I am aware, his prognostications about the Kickstarter were not. There is no evidence to support the second rumour and it was specifically and unanimously denied by anyone with first-hand knowledge of the situation but to be fair, I don't think we can dismiss this as explicitly debunked but I am still very sceptical of this claim. The third claim seems to be founded in an actual event but presented misleadingly - truly, rumours and conjecture.

My final tally - 1 right, 1 probably wrong, 1 got the story wrong, 1 wrong and 1 wait and see.

Not the kind of record I'd be crowing about, saying see I told you so.
Do recent rumors about VH 1 prove he was -- right?
He was right about Alien bringing back Fred Van Lente, the Eddie Van Halen of the VEI Beatles.

Beyond that, I am not aware of these other claims being vindicated. If I were made of time, I’d look up his claims that he has made since.
"Fred Van Lente, the Eddie Van Halen of the VEI Beatles." made me rofl

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